yep that cable.
im thinking the cable we used that day may be a form of restriction, but i havent retested it yet. so no conclusion yet.
i also havent heard tubular bells on pmod-symphonica setup, so im not really sure if im picking up the right info as well.
a/b testing is kinda hard especially when you are tired.. everything ends up sounding the same

i'll have some conclusion by the end of this weekend
it does seem however that i'll be keeping the dac.. until i got something bigger.. maybe..

the tubular bells u guys are talking abt is an album?

Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells 2003.
i dunno whether it's an album or not.. seems like a single recording of 48mins 40 secs..

It is indeed an album..

k i've been doing some comparison..
gears is Pmod, gumstick, and the usb dac.
output to silver cable-> ppk-> HD650 symphonica.

most of the comparison will be between the gumstick and the dac. on board out of window..

apparently i just found out.. the usb cable i used that day might be faulty or not up to the task. at first it failed to detect the DAC. it also exhibit a slightly more smearing effect.. so i contribute that to the usb cable. too much current draw perhaps.

2nd,
the dual usb cable improves the mids on the DAC. difference is minor, but can be heard, especially if you are used to comparing sounds. i would recommend using it.

so........
eventually i came up with the same conclusion:
the dac is slightly slower than gumstick. the difference can be heard if pay close attention, but is also almost negligible.
gumstick is also a bit more cold sounding, slightly on analytical side, hence the slight extra speed.
there's also some very minor difference in layering comparing this dac to gumstick. i would give extra edge on depth to this dac vs gumstick.
i'll be keeping the dac. for what it's worth, its a really good value and performer already. what i really value this dac for is the ability to deliver weight and body to the sound, something i found most dac lacking, and tries to compensate with a mid-bass hump or warm pre-amp. it's also not right to expect miracles from a cheap dac. i will be keeping it.

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vs pmod;
LOL.

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Added on October 7, 2010, 11:09 pmoh yeah.. i forgot to mention.
songs used,
Neujahrskonzert 2008 track 4. this is orchestra, with very fast multi drums layering at the opening.

and.. to clarify,
at almost all max volume (foobar 0db, windows max), im able to deliver my hd650+symphonica to an acceptably loud volume. i think most considers this volume normal listening volume though.

This post has been edited by DaEMoNteNTAcLe: Oct 7 2010, 11:09 PM

How does this fare with the Ordnance-1/ Go-Vibe DAC ?

go buy the alu housing..
i expect a good machined alu housing similar to the govibe to cost arnd rm150..
so..
yeah rm90 + 150.. go-figure.. xD

dont have go-vibe or ordnance to test it out..
ordnance is probably faster.. hence, more micro resolution..

Ordnance IS pretty fast; rather accurate to my ear, doubtless. Otherwise my slower than snail RM60 speakers wouldn't have improved any, LOL. Sadly, this DAC definitely beats it for warmth and volume. Now if only there is a DAC that won't burn a hole in my pocket while being warm like this DAC AND accurate in speed like the Ordnance. *sigh*

Tubular Bells 2003 IS an album-- remastered 2003 release of the original 1970s version, which was on LP vinyl... Check it out on Wikipedia. Most may be familiar with the opening as part of the Exorcist's OST. I just had foobar turn all the separate tracks into one track for my portable player because I prefer listening it to it as one song-- makes more sense to me that way and saves my Clip+ 's battery. XD rxy has the original files...



NORMAL listening volume?! How not to go deaf? I don't go past level 8 at the most on the master volume in Windows listening with headphones; I only set to max if it's hooked up with speakers.

=P
i have the disc.
dunno when i bought it. haha just dig it out from my cabinet.

This post has been edited by PcWork: Oct 8 2010, 02:00 AM

Lawl. Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells is his best work, I think. Along with Amarok and Incantations. Sadly his original CDs are all )(&(*& expensive...

normal, since its driving a 300ohm. by comparison if on gumstick with shroom EB.. about.. 16 or 17 kinda loud.
my preferred listening volume on gumstick with ck10 is 4, usually 8 outdoor tho.
well.. it's a give an take kinda thing.. if want both.. then have to be looking at higher price tag.. there's always a compromise when cost is involved.. .

haha.. ada saja harta karun..
maybe one of these days im gonna spend some time treasure hunting ur house..
mana tau jumpe bley jumpa qualia or r10.. or... another lavry dac11 ka...

^ a nice way to alter the meaning "robbery" hahahahaha

no lae..
im just helping to take care only
sometimes these stuff if just kept sometimes go broken..

@ArianneG:How did you separate them?
By converting?
Or any cue sheet cutter??
I thought you will save up to go the you-know-what?

@rxy: Yes, still saving. But meanwhile if there's another nice, sort of low-end alternative to my Ordnance that has more body and the same speed to it, why not?

The files are as you have them originally. When I had them they were separate files. I just ran the separate files through foobar to make them all one file for use on my Clip+ because I wanted gapless playback for the tracks, which I normally have on foobar.

hmm,well,i also not sure..
i just save until i get it..
yea,but i wanted to know how to separate them using foobar..

Well, you can use foobar to cut the songs from the cue sheet, did it and tried it and it works. basically, put the cue sheet into the playlist and click on the song you want to seperate and pretty much convert it. The converted file would only involve part of the song that you cut from the cue sheet.

This post has been edited by Farenhei147: Oct 8 2010, 02:39 PM

So basically I am going to use the convert function right?
Anyway,regarding this dac,any more comments about it?
My friend is interested too..
If don't play fast layering songs,is this dac ok?

Well pretty much you will be using the convert button, that's what I did for a bundled few of my songs. Unless my big bro or arianne can give a different method.

bro..
im on ck10.
if you havent heard it, then you dont know how fast iem can go. i dare say nothing beats it in speed.
so.. if u are on anything less than top tier, <rm1.5k headphone or <rm1k iems...
chances are.. you wont notice the difference, or maybe you wont even know there is a difference.