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post Oct 8 2010, 04:43 PM

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For my rig do you think I can hear any difference compared to onboard?

I've always been using Creative Elite Pro. Does this DAC come close to it at all?
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post Oct 8 2010, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Oct 8 2010, 04:43 PM)
For my rig do you think I can hear any difference compared to onboard?

I've always been using Creative Elite Pro. Does this DAC come close to it at all?
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maybe you should try it yourself and give feedback?
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post Oct 8 2010, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(rxy @ Oct 8 2010, 02:18 PM)
hmm,well,i also not sure..
i just save until i get it..
yea,but i wanted to know how to separate them using foobar..
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besides converting, u can use some software to separate the tracks as well. such as CUETools. basically it just cuts the thing without converting it. smile.gif
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post Oct 8 2010, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Oct 8 2010, 04:49 PM)
maybe you should try it yourself and give feedback?
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Where can I audition it? I'm contemplating between this or Ordnance1 or Go-Vibe.

Does Jaben have Go-vibe DAC only?
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post Oct 8 2010, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Oct 8 2010, 04:43 PM)
For my rig do you think I can hear any difference compared to onboard?

I've always been using Creative Elite Pro. Does this DAC come close to it at all?
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cant say much regarding the USB DAC cuz i havent tried it yet ... waiting for my friend to get his first tongue.gif, but i dont like the sound of the elite pro. used to own one but ended up trading for a xfi FPS and traded again for a VIA based soundcard.

but when come to think of it, the BB DAC chip used on this product should be better than the elite pro's cirrus logic DACs.. the only problem is prolly the simple interface where you cant do much with the mini USB and also there's no amp on it... need to get one if wanna drive heavy headphones
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post Oct 8 2010, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Oct 8 2010, 05:58 PM)
besides converting, u can use some software to separate the tracks as well. such as CUETools. basically it just cuts the thing without converting it. smile.gif
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*shockku* additional information for me, at least now I know I can use something else to cut the file. laugh.gif
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Oct 8 2010, 08:15 PM)
Where can I audition it? I'm contemplating between this or Ordnance1 or Go-Vibe.

Does Jaben have Go-vibe DAC only?
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MiniDAC last time 'some of us' has listened to it. It is not good/not up to us to comment on it biggrin.gif
Ordnance DAC-1 we have sold out, but the go-vibes DAC I can assure you it is damn good... rclxms.gif
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post Oct 9 2010, 12:05 AM

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But after I use the cuetools,the bit rate doesn't seem to be the same.==
ordnance dac-1 so fast sold out?
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post Oct 9 2010, 02:34 AM

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Maybe you need to check your settings. Ordnance is a popular choice for low-end portable, I noticed. I want to try the Go-Vibes DAC though.
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post Oct 9 2010, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(rxy @ Oct 9 2010, 12:05 AM)
But after I use the cuetools,the bit rate doesn't seem to be the same.==
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really? aisey... didnt notice that... sorry about that... sweat.gif then i guess convert would be the best option then... sweat.gif
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post Oct 9 2010, 12:30 PM

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Hope u can audition the govibe AND this DAC and write a review here biggrin.gif
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post Oct 9 2010, 01:52 PM

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for the record, PCM270x DACs (PCM2702, PCM2707, PCM2704) can be considered the most basic form of DAC designs available (EDIT: ala cmoy of the DAC category) and they all belong to the same family.

Performance wise they should all be the same. As a hokkien would say, LPPL.

This post has been edited by LittleGhost: Oct 9 2010, 01:53 PM
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post Oct 9 2010, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Oct 9 2010, 01:52 PM)
for the record, PCM270x DACs (PCM2702, PCM2707, PCM2704) can be considered the most basic form of DAC designs available (EDIT: ala cmoy of the DAC category) and they all belong to the same family.

Performance wise they should all be the same. As a hokkien would say, LPPL.
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Technically all onboard DAC should be using the same DAC chip? Then there's no point getting this?
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post Oct 9 2010, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Oct 9 2010, 04:57 PM)
Technically all onboard DAC should be using the same DAC chip? Then there's no point getting this?
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on board DAC uses Realtek/OEM based DACs, which is not as good as the PCM270xs


PCM270x is the sort of entry level DACs you get at a decent price, that sounds much better than computer on board DACs.


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post Oct 9 2010, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Oct 9 2010, 04:57 PM)
Technically all onboard DAC should be using the same DAC chip? Then there's no point getting this?
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All sound card should has DAC. This is a basic portable DAC, if want to try an external DAC, this is a good choice.
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post Oct 9 2010, 05:53 PM

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aiyah..
ape susah2..
i know u really interested..
beli aje lah.. xD
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post Oct 9 2010, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Oct 9 2010, 05:53 PM)
aiyah..
ape susah2..
i know u really interested..
beli aje lah.. xD
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laugh.gif Yep, the PCM270x is a god sent to many beginners looking for an entry level external DAC that sounds decent. This is one of the few things that you get below RM100 and if it's any more than that becomes impractical.


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post Oct 9 2010, 06:04 PM

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Pretty much will use it and compare with GoVibe DAC. xD
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post Oct 9 2010, 10:22 PM

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Is Go-vibe DAC same price as Ordnance? Which 1 better?

Really tempted to get this mini..but no box to contain it..sure collect dust overtime
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post Oct 9 2010, 10:51 PM

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Go-Vibe and Ordnance about the same price, yes. Sounds somewhat similar too, according to yuheng. Just go test it out: or maybe bro Fahrenheit can tell us more.

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