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 Nokia N900 V6 (More than 140 owners), Where Tablets Meets Mobile Phone

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post Oct 15 2010, 06:02 PM

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i might get the n8 or n10 or n11 or n20.... but my n900 is here to stay...
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post Oct 18 2010, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(zhlly4eae @ Oct 18 2010, 04:15 PM)
hey guys, after 600mhz i OC to 800mhz seem faster but why always hang or no respond the web i on or others apps?


Added on October 18, 2010, 4:19 pmand how to reflash? what reflash use for?
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hang and no respond or reboot itself ?

afaik OC wont cause hang and no respond.

but OC might cause hang and reboot if you applied one of the low voltage profile...
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post Oct 18 2010, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(zhlly4eae @ Oct 18 2010, 04:15 PM)
hey guys, after 600mhz i OC to 800mhz seem faster but why always hang or no respond the web i on or others apps?


Added on October 18, 2010, 4:19 pmand how to reflash? what reflash use for?
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time to read the front page if you dont know what is reflash.

for comparison, on a PC, you format and reinstall windows.

for mobile phones, you reflash...
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post Oct 18 2010, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(zhlly4eae @ Oct 18 2010, 04:22 PM)
what do u mean by low voltage profile? how to set high or low?
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what OC kenel are you using ? titan's or lehto's ?
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post Oct 18 2010, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(zhlly4eae @ Oct 18 2010, 04:24 PM)
waa means all my files everythings will be gone?
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you are absolutely right.

there is no way to do a repair install like windows.

reflashing means right back to factory settings.

on n900, there is system flash = fiasco image

and user space flash = emmc.

user files mostly on emmc.

you can choose to just flash system = fiasco and ignore emmc, in which case your files will still be there...

but its not advisable as its like reinstalling windows but not deleting my documents, program files and desktop folder.

better to backup and reflash both = complete restore to factory settings.


Added on October 18, 2010, 4:31 pm
QUOTE(zhlly4eae @ Oct 18 2010, 04:26 PM)
im using the front page by X terminal one, they said most easier.
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i guess you are using lehto's fixed OC kernel then.

try to flash something lower if its not stable...

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post Oct 18 2010, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(zhlly4eae @ Oct 18 2010, 04:33 PM)
how to reflash lower?


Added on October 18, 2010, 4:33 pmand how to check my voltage?
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did you try the 800mhz ?

repeat the same steps but try the 750 or 700mhz...
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post Oct 19 2010, 06:48 AM

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with the amount of apps for n900, they (admin) should create a new category in Technical Support Area.
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post Oct 19 2010, 10:37 AM

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wah... i wonder what else inside his dropbox... brows.gif brows.gif
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post Oct 19 2010, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(DET_D5t @ Oct 19 2010, 10:42 AM)
Care to explain what the meaning of this?
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you have to ask the owner of the dropbox...
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post Oct 19 2010, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 19 2010, 12:29 PM)
in that flash lite 4 supports flash 10
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vmad.gif cry.gif


Added on October 19, 2010, 2:44 pmbought a cheap nokia X2 yesterday for a friend,

guess what, the camera app saves the image in .NRW (nokia raw) format before processing it and saving a jpeg copy and then deletes the .NRW file.

RAW support in series 40 is here... built-in and hidden from normal user.

anyway the nokia X2 is kinda loud and noisy. beats both n900 and n8 in raw audio loudness, not so much in quality audio reproduction.

This post has been edited by jananan: Oct 19 2010, 02:44 PM
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post Oct 19 2010, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Oct 19 2010, 02:47 PM)
Pimp up the signal & battery indicator too.
What pissed me off is it got OTG support shocking.gif
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havent try the OTG yet...

kinda weird... series 40 with OTG...
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post Oct 20 2010, 05:54 AM

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QUOTE(Josh_M @ Oct 19 2010, 05:16 PM)
I second this.

Candidate list

1)EIRAKU (sadly his N900 is in bad condition)
2)JANANAN (quite good at this maemo thingy, but then only pops out once in a while oni.)
3)Super Evil Alien ( is quite good candidate i support but oni one thingy dun until kena banned just because of /K/ )

BTW i know Aspire jump ship edi we gonna miss u.

@aspire make sure u organize and attend a TT session for N900 users before u really jump ship

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Added on October 19, 2010, 5:18 pm

that is a very old video judging by the More icon in the menu.
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i am too busy to be the TS... i might go missing for 2-3 days and you guys might make police report !! shocking.gif


Added on October 20, 2010, 6:17 am
QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Oct 19 2010, 11:37 PM)
Seems like even though the firmware still needs some bug fix the graphic acceleration implemented really well.I guess by making GPU to handle graphics the CPU usage is kept low hence the longer battery life.
1200mA battery can last 3 days.That's impressive.
Nokia should have just throw in 1500mA battery.
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GPU needs power as well. running 2 chips uses more power than running just one.

look at intel core i series systems - integrated processor / graphics = less power consumption

and compare to, lets say, amd rig + some pci express graphics = more power consumption


imho, why symbian (as well as series 40) devices dont drain battery as badly as n900, i have to use the word 'badly' since it is bad.


- symbian/series 40 somewhat closed ecosystem (even though symbian is now Open Source, not as open as Maemo)

- more integrated processes running in background (highly integrated, rogue processes can be 100% eliminated)

- no extra daemons / services running in background (n900 has tons running - some rogue even, some not 100% nokia tested, some that is borrowed directly from debian/ubuntu code (code that is meant to run on desktops mostly and code that is not aware of system-wide power policies), which in turn kills the battery quickly even during standby

- and look at series 40 devices, even lesser background processes (everything is loaded only when needed and no multitasking) and 100% closed ecosystem (somewhat like the iphone) that translates to even lesser power consumption when idle

- conclusion - the simpler the system is - the better the battery life.

- nokia's answer to that prayer = Meego.

- Meego is being developed from scratch while Maemo was thrown together from code snippets from various Unix/Linux based desktop OSes and vague routines were applied in the OS to (try to) save power while providing an usable environment.

- with Meego, i dare predict that battery life, at least standby battery life will increase drastically. But of course you cant expect that in Meego v1.x since Meego is made to be "code once, run on many devices" (just like Android is, we all know how sucky Android 1.6 was)

It will take some time before they get it right with Meego, but when they do, expect stellar battery life with almost Maemo like experience.


Added on October 20, 2010, 6:27 am
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 20 2010, 01:05 AM)
Yeah i cant imagine myself typing an essay on the capacitive touch type 1 line also fingers tired haha sometimes type wrong. Physical qwerty its easier to type. Andy deserve our  notworthy.gif
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at least u can pinch zoom now... (the entire multi-touch agenda is based on pinch zoom and gaming).

no pun intended.

i dont think multi-touch has benefited the smartphone revolution that much.

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post Oct 20 2010, 07:25 AM

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what the.... just found out nokia X2 can charge from standard nokia 2mm charger as well as the micro-usb port... drool.gif

nokia is full of surprises recently...

next thing you know - monochrome candybars will have WLAN...
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post Oct 20 2010, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 20 2010, 07:06 AM)
It have revolutionize the gaming industries due to multi touch people plays game on it and also even small little boy know how to pinch zoom on an iphone
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Multitouch is just an extra gesture that can be used for gaming. it has certainly not revolutionized gaming.

Consoles / Handheld Consoles and the humble PC have revolutionized gaming.

take for example, the Nintendo Wii, the wireless motion sensing controller is just a new interface for gaming, nothing revolutionary.

Nintendo has been making consoles and games for ages...

Joysticks were revolutionary. The mouse was revolutionary. Touch screen was revolutionary.

Multitouch is just an added advantage when playing games on touch based interface.


Added on October 20, 2010, 7:47 am
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 20 2010, 07:28 AM)
Haha cool. Btw N8 does that as well
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of course i know the N8 does that...

the year is 2010, nokia would be dumb if they did not enable usb charging on all their usb equipped devices...


Added on October 20, 2010, 7:53 am
QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Oct 20 2010, 01:43 AM)
Managed to get bits of info on PR 1.3 leaked version

Maemo Talk! 'According to the konuşulanlara PR1.3 Week 36 version was leaked to the Internet. FLASHING leaked version of the device need to set up, yet for some, this is not the same as the final version.

Leaked version file name, the RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin 36.cı week confirms that this version, you probably can say that embraces the changes until September.

Although a description of the Nokia side, PR1.3 'fame in a few months can predict the future, even after this latest update to Nokia's also possible to acquire speed. This version is the final version or not and what the host bilinmezken, you can still install and tried according to the users:

There is a slight improvement in the map.
Hildon-desktop and modestly updated to the latest version.
Quick search function is now much more accelerated.
Reduced volume of the jumps.
Using the front camera is no longer a red warning light is on.
Autofocus speed seems to increase.


Of course, these are still only speculation, but looking at here with a very large functions or enhancements will not say PR1.3. PR1.3 support for Nokia, Qt is already out and a new feature duyurmamıştı Dualboot. Thanks to the leaked version, and Google can be found on the Internet known ways, but the details are not clear, and we recommend that you wait for establishing a serious will not receive earnings.
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lets hope these are just rumors... and lets hope the actual PR 1.3 is going to have more stuff and more bugs squashed.

a lot of the bugs submitted are being ignored by nokia... its like 'we know, but who cares'

for starters i dont think n900 has issues with autofocus speed...

and only slight improvements in the map application ? if they were planning to ignore the map application on maemo platform, why ship n900 with GPS ?

might as well just ditch the GPS chip and antenna and save some cost.


Added on October 20, 2010, 7:54 amusually i leave my browser open on my office PC.

when i come in the morning

- n900 thread - maybe 100 new posts overnight

- n8 thread - 600+ new posts overnight

they sure are an excited bunch over there....

This post has been edited by jananan: Oct 20 2010, 07:54 AM
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post Oct 20 2010, 08:52 AM

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http://gizmodo.com/5667723/why-were-not-re...ng-the-nokia-n8

biased sh...

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post Oct 20 2010, 09:50 AM

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you guys have to pardon Gizmodo, they dont have time to review N8...

because they are busy reviewing more important things...

http://gizmodo.com/5667719/app-turns-every...-justin-biebers
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post Oct 20 2010, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Oct 20 2010, 10:00 AM)
That's by different author mah smile.gif
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i am talking about Gizmodo as a whole.

but this guy's article is quite good actually. Quality article.

http://gizmodo.com/5634258/the-most-popula...ne-in-the-world

i am not saying that because he is talking about Nokia. I like the way he writes about simple things that we take for granted.
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post Oct 20 2010, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 20 2010, 10:00 AM)
Multi-touch can be implemented on Resistive screen too right?

Actually, I don't find capacitive screen great; except current it's supporting multi-touch very well.

In terms of sensitivity; I think N900's resistive screen is sensitivity is just nice. I've tried iPod/iPhone capacitive, it's was too sensitive; I think there should be a balance, it's should be sensitive enough but not too sensitive.

Next, about pressure sensitivity, resistive has some kind of pressure sensitivity; This is beneficial especially for PAINT/SKETC/HDRAWING programs, and also with the support of stylus and accuracy, we can use it to draw fine arts, which is not possible with capacitive.

With accuracy and ability to use finger-nails or stylus, we don't need to always zoom in to click on links; I browse Desktop version of FB page, I don't zoom in at all, I can use my finger-nails to click on links or use stylus. For capacitive, most of the time you will need to keep pinch-to-zoom especially for those links nearby, later click the wrong link. That's one reason why pinch-to-zoom is very important to capacitive screen, they can't touch accurately, must always zoom in.

For me, the advantages of resistive is more than capacitive; For work, resistive is better, but for gaming which requires multi-touch, capacitive will be better (but not all games, there games which require you to touch accurately; these games have to be optimize for touch unless the screen is BIG like iPad).

Don't get me wrong, I like multi-touch; I don't actually care about which screen technology, but touch accuracy, pressure sensitivity and the ability to use any objects (finger-nails, pen, stylus, etc) to touch is important for a touch device; It's called a touch device, it didn't say for hand/finger only.
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I, for one, like to keep a bit of fingernail. cutting nails too short just does not feel right.

i look like an idiot when i try to hit the buttons and links with the flesh on the side of my fat thumb to get things going on capacitive screen.
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post Oct 20 2010, 10:57 AM

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"Android is a complete mess when it comes to OS maintenance and developers targeting and testing for different models"

uncle steve said android is bad because its fragmented.

but that would also mean windows xp and windows 7 is bad as well, since it runs on most, if not all x86 PC hardware...

actually if you turn it the other way round, Android is good because they can run it on most devices running on ARM architecture as well as x86 (unix/linux roots anyway)

iOS su*ks since it only runs on a single device.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 20 2010, 10:57 AM)
UNO HD
AVATAR HD
Need for speed SHIFT HD
Asphalt 5 HD
GT Racing HD ( Andy sifu favourite game)

got alot more havent install yet


Added on October 20, 2010, 10:59 am

sure sifu super_evil_alien feel  free to if you want
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why these games are called HD games ? the game 3D engine renders at 720p or 1080p resolution ? brows.gif

guess not... shakehead.gif

just marketing gimmick. now everything is about 3D and HD...

btw i am getting sick of all those advertisements in newspaper about 3D HDTVs that cost RM20k above...

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