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 [WTA]Toyota SEG AE111(M) and Honda EG8 1.6(M), Which One?Need advise wisely..........

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TSvisionlab
post Sep 26 2010, 04:08 PM, updated 16y ago

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Hi all,

I've decided to buy one of these car, by full payment (Cash).The age of these car is about the same, about 10 -15 years approximately...
Just want to ask sifu2 here about the comparison between this 2 cars in terms of:-

engine reliability
engine performance
fuel consumption
spare parts
maintenance cost

Thanks! biggrin.gif
meon55
post Sep 26 2010, 04:19 PM

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As a previous owner of EG9, my choice would be the Honda as it did not give me problem.... engine reliable and powerful engine... just my 2 cents...
imperialrealcs
post Sep 26 2010, 04:20 PM

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assuming both stock engine
engine reliability = toyota
engine performance = both
fuel consumption = toyota
spare parts = honda more aftermarket parts
maintenance cost = toyota

old toyota memang the best, unlike the new vios/altis doh.gif

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post Sep 26 2010, 04:21 PM

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hmm,toyota corrola can mod to 4AGE..vtec not bad too..i vote for honda

coz i am a user of SE too tongue.gif

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post Sep 26 2010, 04:22 PM

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The only EG to get is EG6.
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post Sep 26 2010, 04:24 PM

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AE111....hopefully u get the 1 moded to 4AGE or stock 4AGE Levin AE111
TSvisionlab
post Sep 26 2010, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Sep 26 2010, 04:24 PM)
AE111....hopefully u get the 1 moded to 4AGE or stock 4AGE Levin AE111
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it's kinda a hard choice you no? tongue.gif

what if i'm choosing either one of the type but with stock engine?


Added on September 26, 2010, 4:33 pm
QUOTE(ReidenLing @ Sep 26 2010, 04:21 PM)
hmm,toyota corrola can mod to 4AGE..vtec not bad too..i vote for honda

coz i am a user of SE too tongue.gif
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hahaha..as you have been a user of SEG, mind to share your experience?which SEG is it?stock type or modded? blink.gif

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post Sep 26 2010, 04:42 PM

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Get a stock 2nd hand car. Use until the engine give problem, then drop in blacktop 6spd.

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post Sep 26 2010, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Sep 26 2010, 04:42 PM)
Get a stock 2nd hand car. Use until the engine give problem, then drop in blacktop 6spd.
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silvertop 20v more powerful smile.gif
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post Sep 26 2010, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(xMika @ Sep 26 2010, 04:54 PM)
silvertop 20v more powerful smile.gif
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why do you say that? blacktop is 20v also you know. plus got 6spd trans.
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post Sep 26 2010, 05:30 PM

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Black top vvt comes with 6speed sliver top only comes with 5speed. I think if the owner wants to marry the 6speeder transmission to the silver top he
will need to spend more money. I vote for black top also. Saw a video clip whereby the black top smokes b16a.
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post Sep 26 2010, 05:54 PM

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stock with stock, sure blacktop is more powerful...by 10hp.
but if modded, silvertop more powerful acually....can rev up to 11k rpms...honda vtec cnt...hahahaha
yep...the AE86 in initial D uses 4AGE ST 20V TRD Group A AE101 Levin engine....with 240HP@11k rpm


Added on September 26, 2010, 5:56 pmtapao EK9's n DC2's Type-R....haha
of coz la...coz that's skill

if for me, i definitely choose the turbocharged suzuki cappucino's engine xD

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post Sep 26 2010, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(e30 @ Sep 26 2010, 05:30 PM)
why do you say that? blacktop is 20v also you know. plus got 6spd trans.
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read up
http://www.club4ag.com/


Added on September 26, 2010, 6:09 pmHere.

http://www.club4ag.com/faq_and_tech_pages/...cifications.htm


Added on September 26, 2010, 6:12 pm
QUOTE(XionCity @ Sep 26 2010, 05:54 PM)
stock with stock, sure blacktop is more powerful...by 10hp.
but if modded, silvertop more powerful acually....can rev up to 11k rpms...honda vtec cnt...hahahaha
yep...the AE86 in initial D uses 4AGE ST 20V TRD Group A AE101 Levin engine....with 240HP@11k rpm


Added on September 26, 2010, 5:56 pmtapao EK9's n DC2's Type-R....haha
of coz la...coz that's skill

if for me, i definitely choose the turbocharged suzuki cappucino's engine xD
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Group A engine where to find ohh rclxub.gif

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post Sep 26 2010, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(xMika @ Sep 26 2010, 06:07 PM)
read up
http://www.club4ag.com/


Added on September 26, 2010, 6:09 pmHere.

http://www.club4ag.com/faq_and_tech_pages/...cifications.htm


Added on September 26, 2010, 6:12 pm

Group A engine where to find ohh  rclxub.gif
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which of the 4A-GELU or 4A-GLEU is the blacktop/silvertop?
TSvisionlab
post Sep 26 2010, 08:11 PM

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instead of using blacktop/silvertop engine, what if i just buy the SEG with stock engine?should there be any problems?
same to honda eg8, if just use with its stock engine?any problems?
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post Sep 26 2010, 08:19 PM

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no problem but those engine that they said gives alot of power for an 1.6L engine.. of course in malaysia u cant get those figure coz we only got RON97 at best and these engines need RON100 to comply..
same to all 4G92 MIVEC, B16A VTEC, 4A-GE Black/Silvertop, and Nissan SR16VE Neo-VVL
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post Sep 26 2010, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Sep 26 2010, 08:19 PM)
no problem but those engine that they said gives alot of power for an 1.6L engine.. of course in malaysia u cant get those figure coz we only got RON97 at best and these engines need RON100 to comply..
same to all 4G92 MIVEC, B16A VTEC, 4A-GE Black/Silvertop, and Nissan SR16VE Neo-VVL
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it made think of having both of SEG and EG.. brows.gif
but only afford to have one of them liao... blush.gif

still haven't made up my decision yet..its kinda tough... sweat.gif
dun wan to regret later on.. whistling.gif
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post Sep 26 2010, 08:57 PM

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I would choose EG8 ... given that it has a B16A/B/C tongue.gif AE111 looks ah pek-ish ..
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post Sep 26 2010, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Sep 26 2010, 08:19 PM)
no problem but those engine that they said gives alot of power for an 1.6L engine.. of course in malaysia u cant get those figure coz we only got RON97 at best and these engines need RON100 to comply..
same to all 4G92 MIVEC, B16A VTEC, 4A-GE Black/Silvertop, and Nissan SR16VE Neo-VVL
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this is correct, no matter how much hp those japan guys says, we'll never get 100% over here (except if u import the fuel yourself)

QUOTE(visionlab @ Sep 26 2010, 08:27 PM)
it made think of having both of SEG and EG.. brows.gif
but only afford to have one of them liao... blush.gif

still haven't made up my decision yet..its kinda tough... sweat.gif
dun wan to regret later on.. whistling.gif
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it's an easy decision, get seg if u r not planning to do heavy mods, eg if u want to mod kau kau
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post Sep 26 2010, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(xMika @ Sep 26 2010, 08:57 PM)
I would choose EG8 ... given that it has a B16A/B/C tongue.gif AE111 looks ah pek-ish ..
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if EG8 with stock engine vs SEG with stock engine, which one u'll choose? tongue.gif

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