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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2010, DONE DEAL: WELCOME NESV,JOHN HENRY

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post Sep 26 2010, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(farisq @ Sep 26 2010, 01:04 AM)
Yup tooo much dribble. They should have made early cross into the pen box
I thought the players seem confused with the formation in the 1st half.

IMO, at the moment Ngog is much better player than (not 100% fit) Torres in holding up the ball.
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thats the thing... Torres is like Owen. he needs a holding player like Heskey.
Heskey was shit but he provided the holding partner Owen sorely needed.

now Torres SORELY needs Ngog to hold the ball up and let Gerrard and Joey come in from midfield.
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post Sep 26 2010, 01:09 AM

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Things I noticed from the match :

1: We are more lively everytime Ngog enters the match... Manu match, today match... More of that kind of partnership , pls?

2. Too much of solo effort and one man show from Johnson who could have just pass the ball instead of dribbling and lose the possession...

3. Poulsen is again terrible and disastrous.Gave away the first goal and almost conceded a second penalty when his header caused the ball to our own goal and Reina rushed out, bump into the Sunderland striker...That's a penalty if u ask me....He clearly get the ball first...

4. Terrible officials.

5. Sammy doing the job while Hodgson sitting comfortably praying to god...Maybe we should sack Roy and let Sammy do the job?
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post Sep 26 2010, 01:12 AM

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if RH still insists to play 4-2-3-1 formation..he shud go for lucas instead of poulsen IMO..otherwise..go for 4-4-2..ngog is improving...
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post Sep 26 2010, 01:15 AM

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one positive outcome this season

Gerrard and Ngog perform up to standard

the rest, still in limbo doh.gif
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post Sep 26 2010, 01:21 AM

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its time for 2 striker. Ngog and Torres.

Spare Poulsen for Liverpool reserve team. Keep Stevie and Raul as midfield maestro. Lucas? maybe good for backup or sub. Let Kuyt and Joey terrorize the flank.

Its time to play serious football. If RH said Poulsen is still new and need more time to adapt, well I guess he better let Lucas play, at least he is an experienced player playing with Stevie.

Johnson, u r not Messi. Your dribble wont always work at all time. The more u try to passed the defence, the more u slow down the creating chance tempo. You give time for rival to flooded their own box and give tiny chance to our striker to execute finishing. You are so predictable.

We play a high tempo of football tonite, but our creating chance is slow. That wont works.
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post Sep 26 2010, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Sep 26 2010, 12:58 AM)
lets giv RH some time to mould a perfect setup
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we're 15th now after 6 games..

yeah give him more time. we'll be in the relegation zone quite comfortably.
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post Sep 26 2010, 01:27 AM

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This is my 'If-I-Was-A-Manager' plan:

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Torres - To score goals. Dribbling and Shoot at goal.
Ngog - Main role to hold up the ball and invite attacking MF
Joey and Kuyt - To supply balls from the wings and at times Joey may cut in the middle and let loose a shot or two.Kuyt should come in from the side of the penalty box.
G8 - attack from the middle and not from the wings. To save me my blushes.
Meireles - Holding midfield. Help defenders. Encourage attack.
Johnson - DO NOT DRIBBLE PASS KUYT (OR AT ALL)
Carra and Skrtel - Be awesome at defending
Konchesky/Agger - Help Joey to cut in and then move in to the upper flank.
Reina - save shots?

okay, i was bored and a little emo. lol.
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QUOTE(digilife @ Sep 26 2010, 01:15 AM)
one positive outcome this season

Gerrard and Ngog perform up to standard

the rest, still in limbo doh.gif
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But when Gerrard tried to head the ball back to Reina but with not enuff power, my heart felt like it just stopped beating... tongue.gif


Added on September 26, 2010, 1:31 am
QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Sep 26 2010, 01:27 AM)
Joey and Kuyt - To supply balls from the wings and at times Joey may cut in the middle and let loose a shot or two.Kuyt should come in from the side of the penalty box
Nice drawing board u hve there... biggrin.gif

The challenge is to tell Joey to stay wide most of the time....

This post has been edited by farisq: Sep 26 2010, 01:31 AM
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post Sep 26 2010, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(farisq @ Sep 26 2010, 01:27 AM)
But when Gerrard tried to head the ball back to Reina but with not enuff power, my heart felt like it just stopped beating...  tongue.gif


Added on September 26, 2010, 1:31 am

Nice drawing board u hve there...  biggrin.gif

The challenge is to tell Joey to stay wide most of the time....
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haha.. i just think that johnson should realize he is DEFENDER not an ATTACKER. but i do appreciate when a defender goes forward, as long as he is good at defending first. Joey was in my opinion decent today.. he's really quick feet. too quick that sometimes he turns without the ball. doh.gif
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post Sep 26 2010, 01:34 AM

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Sunderland was darn hard to play with when Arsenal met them last week (ended with 1-1). Even harder than WBA whom we lost to at home today...
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post Sep 26 2010, 01:34 AM

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I feel pity with Liverpool,last time they were one of the best teams,in fact they could have won the EPL last time,but now suddenly they are like this..I really wonder what will happen if big-names like Gerrard,Torres etc. quit Liverpool becos they impatient with the club,and the club got no money to buy new players,then finished la,Liverpool will be just mid-table teams only sad.gif Just wondering only,no offence icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 26 2010, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(sivapc @ Sep 26 2010, 01:25 AM)
we're 15th now after 6 games..

yeah give him more time. we'll be in the relegation zone quite comfortably.
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come-on man
how many games did Arsene Wanger lost till he mould a good first 11 in first season at Arsenal?

lets be patience, we wont end the season lower than 7, mark this line


Added on September 26, 2010, 1:36 am
QUOTE(meaj @ Sep 26 2010, 01:34 AM)
Sunderland was darn hard to play with when Arsenal met them last week (ended with 1-1). Even harder than WBA whom we lost to at home today...
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See, this a Arsenal fansi abt the black cats thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by digilife: Sep 26 2010, 01:36 AM
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post Sep 26 2010, 01:37 AM

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but a wait, is a wait.

YNWA
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This post has been edited by moodswingfella: Sep 26 2010, 01:42 AM
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post Sep 26 2010, 01:44 AM

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we hav to go through this process, tell me who do you think can fill in RH's shoes if he resign suddenly?

Martin Oneil ? i would rather like to see the Yanks out of our Club than RH's resigning
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QUOTE(bigbangformula @ Sep 26 2010, 01:34 AM)
I feel pity with Liverpool,last time they were one of the best teams,in fact they could have won the EPL last time,but now suddenly they are like this..I really wonder what will happen if big-names like Gerrard,Torres etc. quit Liverpool becos they impatient with the club,and the club got no money to buy new players,then finished la,Liverpool will be just mid-table teams only  sad.gif Just wondering only,no offence  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Liverpool won't fade away. They're making profits, but their owners are sucking them dry. The October payment deadline means they are now presented with a chance to cut themselves loose from the vampiric duo. That means, the yanks will have to take care of their debts themselves, and Liverpool free to enjoy their own profits again. But we have seen nothing yet. There could still be some dramatic turn of events.. and here's hoping for the best for u guys.

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QUOTE(bigbangformula @ Sep 26 2010, 01:34 AM)
I feel pity with Liverpool,last time they were one of the best teams,in fact they could have won the EPL last time,but now suddenly they are like this..I really wonder what will happen if big-names like Gerrard,Torres etc. quit Liverpool becos they impatient with the club,and the club got no money to buy new players,then finished la,Liverpool will be just mid-table teams only  sad.gif Just wondering only,no offence  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Personally, I won't blame Gerrard if he decides to leave. He had done enough for this club. Although, I don't think it will be the same for him to win BPL with clubs other than Liverpool.

For Torres, admire his decision to stay this season. But if things did not improve by the end of the season, I won't blame him if he considers other option. I think he is destined for greatness in football...
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 26 2010, 01:09 AM)
Things I noticed from the match :

1: We are more lively everytime Ngog enters the match... Manu match, today match... More of that kind of partnership , pls?

2. Too much of solo effort and one man show from Johnson who could have just pass the ball instead of dribbling and lose the possession...

3. Poulsen is again terrible and disastrous.Gave away the first goal and almost conceded a second penalty when his header caused the ball to our own goal and Reina rushed out, bump into the Sunderland striker...That's a penalty if u ask me....He clearly get the ball first...

4. Terrible officials.

5. Sammy doing the job while Hodgson sitting comfortably praying to god...Maybe we should sack Roy and let Sammy do the job?
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conclusion is we need start play 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 with Gerrard takes the Attacking Midfield role , IMO that is combination of torres+gerrard for our second goal but I dont think this will happen since our center midfield now so poor
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QUOTE(digilife @ Sep 26 2010, 01:35 AM)
come-on man
how many games did Arsene Wanger lost till he mould a good first 11 in first season at Arsenal?

lets be patience, we wont end the season lower than 7, mark this line


Added on September 26, 2010, 1:36 am

See, this a Arsenal fansi abt the black cats thumbup.gif
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Hope you are right at the end of season, which I doubt so with this kind of performance.

Again I said many time, it is the performance that worry the most, not the result.
You cannot possible win many games with this kind of display.
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My dear kopites, they say Rome wasnt build in a day...

but for godsake..this is futball and we r liverpool...now can we get out there n show who s boss?? ini sunderland in anfield aso cannot control the game? i guess we just hav to be kopites n get bhind our team no matter wat.. cry.gif cry.gif

i was thinking RH should bring in kelly..move johnson up to wing..johnson is leaving the right side so freaking empty..n he barely ran..he seem to b jogging the whole game..if lu mau naik serang lu kena tulun 2 kali ganda cepat la... vmad.gif

n we had zero width... vmad.gif

okai...cukup comment about liverpool..now back to supporting liverpool blindly! go reds! cool2.gif
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QUOTE(leaF @ Sep 26 2010, 02:03 AM)
conclusion is we need start play 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 with Gerrard takes the Attacking Midfield role , IMO that is combination of torres+gerrard for our second goal but I dont think this will happen since our center midfield now so poor
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If Gerrard taking AM, then no one bossing or in charge and take control of midfield area, ended up both of them isolated at front, because there is no CM that can dictate and control the game. Ain't we just saw how the result of match performance with Poulsen+Lucas combination in the previous few matches?

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