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post Sep 22 2010, 04:01 PM, updated 16y ago

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Hi guys,

I don't know where to go but I though I might as well post it here. Although the Android community on lowyat.net is not that big, we might have some talented and knowledgeable people here. So I want to start a thread on which we can discuss on software (apps and games) developing/development for the Android platform. Some of you might have a great story for a game but don't have the coding knowledge or vice versa. So consider this as a hub for idea sharing. This may or may not be an official project that in the end will produce a working software. We'll see how it goes first although I'm pretty skeptical about it.

People that I'm looking for :

Writer (to write storyline/dialogue/journal/etc.)
Designer (to design the structure of the software/game level/software layout/etc.)
Visual Artist (to design the UI of the software/concept arts/sprites/etc.)
Sound Engineer (to create sound effects/tunes/background music/etc.)
Programmer (to write codes of the program/implements accelerometer support into software/etc.)

MIND YOU!

I'm not trying to hire anybody, I just want to create a space for all of the above to share ideas and maybe work on a project. This WILL NOT be an official project where you will get paid. However if things turn out to be on the bright side, it might be.

So,

Anybody with some experience or knowledge on the above said are free to share your idea around. Anybody is also welcome to share your idea like what software should be develop or what do you want on your phone. And please keep those silly ideas away (we don't need another fart apps or porn live wallpaper), no offense.

Now, keep 'em coming guys!

Current suggestion :

XDA App-like for Lowyat.net

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post Sep 23 2010, 10:59 AM

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Hi guys,

Thanks for the replies. I can see that you guys are interested in this.

QUOTE(SanosukeSagara @ Sep 22 2010, 04:21 PM)
I have been programming android for couple of months.
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That's great, so you know your way around codes?

QUOTE(jujx @ Sep 22 2010, 04:30 PM)
maybe can start with how to setup development environment?
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Excellent idea my friend.

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Sep 22 2010, 04:27 PM)
I'm rather interested with Android Programming for dummies. Anyone have got a tutorial to kick off the learning?
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QUOTE(ohmlawx @ Sep 22 2010, 04:53 PM)
hai,

i got many idea in head.. but didnt know where to start.. might need some guided for dummies..

thanks..
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The first thing that I recommend is reading through Android Dev page to get the rough idea on how Android works. Its here :

http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html

From there, you can buy or maybe download e-book for Android.


First of all, I would like to thank you guys for your support. For whom that possess a certain skill, for example in writing or coding, may drop their name and skills in the thread. Additional information like a list of your related knowledge is welcome. I will then register the information on the first post so you can be identified of your role. From there, we can discuss further on what should be done. Anyone who doesn't wish to be registered but can or want to provide guidance or advice is also welcome.

On how to start this discussion, we need to identify first what role will you play. This is to get a clear picture of the brainpower that we have. We cannot move forward without the necessary skills. There is no point having 10 coders and no graphic designer right?

Remember that this will take some time to actually create something that is working. We're only doing this for the passion an love of the platform. Some of us are working and some of us are studying so don't expect this to be a full time thing.

So in the mean time, you can suggest your idea on what you think that should be on Android. I'm sure you all use Android phone on daily basis. What software do you think that can improve the capacities of your Android phones. Be it a new kind of software, or an existing software with better features. Just post your ideas.

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post Sep 23 2010, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(L0rDKadaj @ Sep 23 2010, 11:03 AM)
I do Android development since my third year. Now an intern in a company. I'd like a discussion on Android too. If let's say something almost similar to XDA application, it's workable. Research is needed.
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Very good. So you know the structure of Android right?

QUOTE(sexualpower @ Sep 23 2010, 11:07 AM)
i'm interested but only serious on projects that are serious in nature~ i'm not a developer but can work on business & legal issues~
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This will be a serious project only when it develops into one. At the moment its just a hub for sharing ideas. Thanks for you interest though. Definitely will need a legal advisor if this project becomes official.
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post Sep 23 2010, 01:57 PM

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Thanks cleave for your support.

So what I understand from your reply is its completely a do-able app. We just need to inject a few PHP codes into it. Am I right? I know a lot of people will appreciate this app since it brings convenience to them.

I know you're a veteran Android user. So if its possible can you provide some insight or guidance?
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post Sep 24 2010, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(SanosukeSagara @ Sep 23 2010, 06:27 PM)
i think lowyatnet has been quite long.. and it's customized to suit the needs of our community. hence upgrading this forum will need some works.. else using tapatalk is easy
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We can't use tapatalk apparently. Here's why:

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Sep 22 2010, 04:36 PM)
XDA uses Tapatalk. I unofficially mentioned it to se7en. Apparently Lowyat.Net has considered Tapatalk but was unable to implement because of IPB version. So, it's a no-go.
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QUOTE(sexualpower @ Sep 23 2010, 09:19 PM)
if business is involved, the legal know-how is protection against potential attacks that may undermine the business model or harm net asset~ do infom us on your progress.. good, fine, great, we'd like to hear about a LYN project as it goes~
although Oracle is suing Android coz of Java's ownership, I support Java for roping the mass market~ portability is a factor to think about~
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Yes I understand that, but this is not for sure a project that will produce a product that we can/will sell. I certainly will. Or you can check on the thread every now an then.

I'm not really worried about that suing because somehow Google is winning every case filed against them. Talk about global power eh. nod.gif
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post Sep 27 2010, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(cleave @ Sep 24 2010, 04:16 PM)
Haha... I'm more of a Java veteran than an Android one. In any case, I'll be happy to contribute to this thread as I seriously think discussions of this sort is very healthy for LYN's android community.
Ok, I do agree with the reply above. Let me just elaborate on it so that we can better comprehend the situation at hand and plan for the steps we need to undertake to carry the project forward.

TL;DR section ahead...
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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I'm glad that you're open to lending your hands in this. That what I thought, instead of just ranting about it, why not we do something about it. My purpose for this thread is to spark a productive discussion.

Ok about the spoiler, we need the cooperation of the admin to make this happen right? I'll ask around about that.
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post Sep 28 2010, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(cleave @ Sep 28 2010, 05:19 AM)
Yup, we should formally approach the admin and site owner outlining our intentions and seeking their consent and cooperation. Assuming that it goes down well with them, we'll then probably need to establish a core team for this project to show the commitment on our part.

Another thing to consider is that since the app will take sensitive inputs like usernames & passwords (and perhaps PMs), how would we ensure the users that their privacy is well guarded while using the app? In other words, the source code must be somewhat transparent. The level of transparency is up for discussion along the way.
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Ok cleave, I already PM'ed the admin. We'll just have to wait for his reply.

About the privacy stuff, its definitely better if the code is transparent. So that anyone can study it and if there is something fishy about it, they'll know. If its possible, any data related to usernames and passwords should be stored on the lowyat.net server itself. This is if the admin allows it of course.

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post Sep 28 2010, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(darkjackal @ Sep 28 2010, 12:59 PM)
I tried developing an android application before.
The learning curve is identifying all the usable packages that is available.

If this discussion really happen then let me know, I would like to see how it will progress also
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You are right about the learning curve. However there are more to it that requires time and attention for anybody to truly comprehend it.

Certainly will do. You can always check back here. Thanks for your interest.
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post Sep 28 2010, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Taetsu @ Sep 28 2010, 02:13 PM)
Still exploring the API packages. Been playing with Eclipse for every now and then for the past months..
Not a true Java-oriented developer here, but very much interested in building one myself or with enthusiasts like you ppl here  smile.gif

It's great to see someone initiated this. Kudos to d3m0n for bringing-up this idea..  rclxms.gif
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Thanks for your interest. I'm doing that myself. Still trying to understand the structure of Android. In the mean time, if you have any idea or would like to see some app in Android you could drop in you suggestion.

QUOTE(areankim @ Sep 28 2010, 02:17 PM)
i jst started to play around with App Inventer by google..
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Nice. Keep it up.

Added on October 1, 2010, 10:20 amBump. Nobody in?

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post Oct 6 2010, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(chding @ Oct 5 2010, 11:43 AM)
started playing with App Inventor as well  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Nice, welcome aboard friend.

QUOTE(sachindere @ Oct 5 2010, 03:52 PM)
I will be watching this thread. I have been playing with Android couple of weeks back but work as usual gets in the way. My Core competency is Java/J2EE and have used J2ME before. I can post a tutorial on how to setup Android in Eclipse complete with SVN if you guys need it.

By the way, is there any Android App which backup all the Phone Contacts to a Web Server and vice Versa independent of telco network?  What do you guys think of developing this initially?

cheers.
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Welcome friend. That is a great idea if you don't mind. People are looking any tip or tutorial to start with.

I think Google can do that already. You can sync your contacts in your Google account.
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post Oct 7 2010, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Oct 6 2010, 02:32 PM)
i am still reading some android developer guidelines but kinda busy with office stuff.

I have idea for new UI but i need to go through android developer guides before i could start properly.
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Welcome aboard friend. Good to hear that.

What do you mean a new UI? Is it for an app? Or an OS UI like Sense? If the latter than I'm impressed!
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Oct 7 2010, 08:34 AM)
OS UI. But i still need to go through on Android Dev guide on how they coded the XML thingy.
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Now that is a massive project. That is a good step. Make sure you understand the whole structure first before attempting to modify it.

QUOTE(g933299 @ Oct 7 2010, 09:31 AM)
Well, hopefully Google lets people in to AppInventor, then people without programming skills can make apps!

Drag and drop logic boxes biggrin.gif
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Lol. Where is the challenge in that?
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post Oct 11 2010, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Oct 8 2010, 11:42 AM)
I'm expecting some graphic, geometric issue for initial. Btw, got a another OS UI idea this morning.
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Mind sharing what this new UI is all about? Is it just a graphical modification or a revamped system altogether?
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post Nov 8 2010, 02:24 PM

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Hey mengsuan, I can see that you're progressing quite well. And sorry guys for keeping quiet on the thread, been too busy working. I'm only home for 6 hours everyday! Btw, I'm trying to learn about Linux first, so the process of learning Android will be less painful.
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post Nov 11 2010, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(I<3LYN @ Nov 8 2010, 04:47 PM)
I don't want to sound cruel... but it is very hard to collaborate a project with random people online.
Those who have skills and ambitious might not stay for long without monetary benefits.
Those who are ambitious but no skills might stall or even drag down the entire project.
The worst is some people will join for fun but doing nothing.
Eventually the project will just die when the starter and everyone else lost interest in it.

It will be very lucky even for the project to be released half-cooked... most of the time, it will just die at alpha stage.
Why I know? because i had been through similar situations.
Thanks for your honest opinion. I understand what you're trying to say, but please read the first post. It is already stated that this is not a full-blown project or anything like that. I created this thread as platform for us Android users to share our expertise or ideas willingly with others. I'm sorry for you because you've been through situations like that, but I do not appreciate your that you sound like you're implying people here do it just for fun. The truth is we are doing it for fun, we're not trying to make any money with this. And most people have jobs. I, myself gets only 4 hours of sleep everyday, online once or twice a week. So I hope you understand the real situation here. If you have an idea on an application or something, you can share it here. Somebody with the right skills might read it up and be interested. Then both of you can start the project yourself. This is how this thread suppose to work. A place for sharing.

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