QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 27 2010, 07:54 PM)
didnt watch last game since i wanna go home LAWLbut yeah, VR TOO NERFED. NEEDS BUFF!
SC1 pros coming to SC2 (recently JD), KESPA is screwed
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Sep 27 2010, 09:23 PM
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Sep 28 2010, 05:02 PM
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WOI KPOP WOIHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Sep 28 2010, 05:42 PM
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Sep 28 2010, 05:45 PM
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Sep 28 2010, 06:02 PM
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Sep 28 2010, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(Laguna @ Sep 28 2010, 06:07 PM) Well six figures yes but i guess he still can be called an image of what resemble we made fox and if you check his ranking in team liquid he isn't at the top ranking any more like he use to be as stated in here http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players it merely shows his ELO rating (his previous points collected ) which never changes through time but if nada were to be put out into the fray with the young guns he cant make it as they are much faster and meaner obviously many out there will tear him apart as the top ace from KT (FLAsh ) Hwazeun Oz (Jaedong ) and many more could out gunned him easily. Besides all that like i said in my previous post its a good news for NAda . >kespa NGOKespa isn't screwed for that i know because as a striving Non profit organization which actually cared about their players and provide at least a reasonable pay cheque for the Pro league players they have actually done a good job in making Broodwar an E SPORT event with all their fundings and Companies sponsorship . Kespa isn't the one who stole Blizzard IP it actually promoted Starcraft to where it stands now as a recognized e sport game that is very competitive to its very core in Korea . Without kespa there will be no Proleagues , no competition and no organization that actually provide a basics needs and fund to keep our Brood war pro's from going out of hunger. Blizzard in all its greediness as its stand now has fallen beyond the reasonable standard of a company that actually is trying to promote a good game (SC2) using dirty tricks such as trying to take over all Kespa rights to air time for their pro league tournament and not only that advertising illegally on buildings to promote sc2 . Blizzards has change its no longer a company that actually cares to produce a game that actually brings out the fun anymore just look at starcraft 1 when it was released there were no dirty tricks use in it's marketing regime .We all do know that Gretech is a counter part or a silhouette shadow of blizzards trying to do all its might in destroying SC : BW but as long KESPA is there BW would continue to flourish as It's quite painful for me to know that the game I love from such a long time ago since standard 6 (Bw my second game ) be destroyed and going to youtube to find that there is no more pro league any more . Finally my take on the situation I am definitely in support of Kespa as I still want to see proleague and BW to continue its legacy . Yes about rainbow and fantaprime ( july ) its good news ^^. /face |
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Sep 28 2010, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(Laguna @ Sep 28 2010, 06:21 PM) point to me, where in that page, states that they are a non-profit organization?also, you *MAY* want to look up definitions on what is "intellectual property" and "non profit organization" (for NPO, ctrl + f the page you link, it is actually right there) =edit= hmm how come p can become g, btw, it wasnt hotlinked, so just ctrl f it in the search box This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 28 2010, 06:28 PM |
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Sep 28 2010, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(Laguna @ Sep 28 2010, 06:33 PM) Do you think they would want to stop pro league and destroy its construction of the scene and jump on to sc2 ? well heres the problem (partially my bad):They did not challenge blizzard they are just negotiating between them over the screening time of the games blizzards wants to take the prime slot of BW which is to kespa isn't possible at all cost.Show me a proof that Kespa is actually trying to acquire Blizzards IP if that is what you were saying . Exactly SC BW is the soul of Korea I don't think any one with a right mind would want to take off a sport which has been existing and money gobbling for 12 years hence no way Kespa is going to let go of BW. Added on September 28, 2010, 6:38 pm Kespa is funded by the Minister of cultural hence it isn't a body which sets up to be like other profitable organization. According to wiki definition of an NGO this does qualifies KESPA as a NGO as per requested by you to look at the definition . This thread says it all to all who thinks Kespa is a money making monster.... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=128517 you said they are a NPO, which is clearly not the case. and then even IF you meant it being NGO, according to your link here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_e-Spor...ers_Association it DID NOT mention ANYTHING about kespa being funded totally OR partially by the korean government. so on BOTH accounts, you struck out. |
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Sep 28 2010, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(Laguna @ Sep 28 2010, 07:23 PM) that is a Q&A panel that can be sugar coated by kespa PR people. until theres more solid information such as TL wiki page, or wiki page, or information from korean govt, or their financial information, kespa can say ANYTHING they want to make themselves pretty in front of their fans. |
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Sep 28 2010, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(Laguna @ Sep 28 2010, 07:36 PM) I for my honest believe that the Q&A was definitely it's truth despite of there chances of it being a money leeching organization thats the only source I currently was able to dig up and there's no 100% guarantee that any NGO Or NPO will be as it says that sticks to its ideal or what its PR speech maybe . I possibly have done all my can to say that Kespa is not as it what it seems as you all painted it to be a body that is trying to limit SC2 from growing and trying to steal the ip from blizzard . Guess these would be the last time of me replying to this thread as people believe that in order for sc2 to succeed bw mush be abolished from the scene of the earth. LETS JUST SAY ITS 100% TRUTH. but look at what evo linked above, NDA. kespa violated it. would you trust someone that violates contractual agreements?also, on one hand you are OK with kespa having chances of being a money leeching organization so long they are being truthful (but they are not, mind you, with just the basis on top alone) and on the other, blizzard is a money leeching company and it is NOT ok regardless if they are being truthful or not? and here you are *SAYING* all goods about kespa and giving up on providing factual and solid sources while trying to convince people that kespa is all good and dandy while blizzard is the devil. do you realize what you are doing right there? if you dont, let me tell you: HYPOCRISY. and on that account, THINK about kespa's Q&A panel, and think about this for a brief moment: what if, blizzard never existed? kespa can be GODS for all i care, but the fact is blizzard MADE sc1. they OWN SC1. it is a SOFTWARE, and it is protected by INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS. whatever kespa did to made sc1 GOD MODE and ESPORT is moot point if there was NO SC1 to begin with. and just so you sc1 biased people like you know: no one (AT THE VERY LEAST ME) thinks that sc1/SC1BW/KESPA should be abolished/removed/destroyed from the face of the earth for SC2 to flourish/succeed. they can be there and do whatever they want for all I i care as my focus is sc2, NOT sc1/SC1BW |
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Sep 28 2010, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(Laguna @ Sep 28 2010, 07:57 PM) It is merely hypothetical I am suggesting they are corrupt but the possibility of them being not is quite high mind you no other pro gamers in the world earn as much as those who participated in sc bw tournament . Have there been any pro gamer in fps genre or any game genre earn as much as slayer boxer during his prime 1million won ? Being a pro gamer in Korea is a big issue and it's recognize as an occupation . Well you can stick to your sc2 and all your believes but what I am trying to say is that its not fair for Blizzard to come in and grab all the credentials just to ensure that's its bankrupt half baked game to be considered as an esport . When the original SC 1 came out it had already the option to choose 3 race to be played be it in the campaign or multiplayer and it wasn't completed and had a lot of flaws but with the expansion pack BW it made sc a much MORE balance game . I am not biased in any way what's disturbing me is that in order for succeed BW Must die for SC2 to be noticeable hence killing my proleague players of earning their bowl of soup of the day . Kespa has done a freaking good job in my book for it to bring e sports to this level of international awe to everyone to look back wards and say yeah at least e sport had its respect or closely made its popularity to a real SPORT . bringing in pointers of how much sc1 pro gamers earn especially comparing them against FPS pro gamers is definitely irrelevant as sc2 is still new and there is no telling how much they can potentially earn. However, just from the prize pot GSL (mind you, the LARGEST prize pot so far in e-sport history EVER) is a good sign that sc2 is on the right track for any players to earn the most out of ANY e-sports game(which dun dun dun, include sc1).are you trying to argue fairness against LAW (read: IP) right here? lets be really realistic here: life aint f***ing fair. what blizzard do may be mean and bullshit, but sc1 is THEIR GAME, and they CAN do whatever they pretty much pleases with it. and to be REALLY honest, lets take out SC franchise for a moment: if blizzard is REALLY the mean ******* company they are claimed to be, Warcraft franchise, and diablo franchise, and ultimately the damn company, and Blizzcon, would not be what it is this very fine day. and just so your apparently unbiased self know: SC BW DONT have to die for SC2 to succeed, and YOU most certainly do NOT own those proleague players. their bowl of soup of the day is THEIR bowl of soup, NOT yours. |
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