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leinnz
post Apr 5 2012, 09:58 AM

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Not too sure but for me i use it sometime when i lazy to shift down to D2 or D1
My explanation. So correct me if i'm wrong sifus.
Hold means restriction of use to a certain gear you are in. Most Auto gear car have it now. Myvi, Vios, etc
Example.to hold a gear position when you want to reach a certain speed with the right gear mode you are on.
I want to drive on a hill and i do not want to use D2 or D1 but i know i need to use lets say 2nd gear to go up on the steep hill. So i press the hold button when i hit 2nd gear and this will maintain the gear position until i released the hold button.
Some says this will prolong the auto tranny since you maintain a right gear along your drive up the steep.
But beware, there are limits to hold your gear at certain speed. Check the owner manual. i Believe it written since i read before. 90km/h for 3rd gear i think.

Hope this clarify you.
Anyway, Just use the D2 or D1 is you want to go up or down a hill or even overtaking someone.

This post has been edited by leinnz: Apr 5 2012, 10:00 AM
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(rahimax @ Apr 4 2012, 09:23 AM)
Anyone wanna do this to their M2?  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aZctbTp5gQ...be_gdata_player
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M2 the best sub-compact car ! Respect and obey !!! hehe Makes me proud to be a M2 owner tongue.gif
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post Apr 5 2012, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(jeremy7 @ Apr 3 2012, 05:49 PM)
anyone can explain the HOLD key,i still dont really get it....
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based on my Google research and personal experiment, the HOLD button will force to lower 1 level of the max gear position.

Example, in normal condition,
We can go up to 4th gear @ D, 3rd gear @ S & 2nd Gear @ L

if we pressed Hold, the max gear position will be
3rd gear @ D, 2nd gear @ S & 1st Gear @ L

In normal driving situation, the gear position will auto go one level down if we press the accelerator harder for acceleration, but the gear position will come back to the original position if we loosen the accelerator, if we need more power to acceleration again, we need to repeat the same action, but the gear positioning switching impact is very uncomfortable.

When we use the hold button, the gear will not back to the highest gear position even we loosen the accelerator. This will be more comfort to the driver & passenger and maintain the high power output with high RPM.

I tried on the highway, when i drive about 110km/h, i press the hold button and the car was able to reach 140km/h in a short moment.

Hold also good on hill road, i used hold + S for my Cameron highland trip, it's feel great!
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post Apr 5 2012, 06:30 PM

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thumbs up to @ryusher for his explanation smile.gif
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post Apr 5 2012, 07:00 PM

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thanks a lot for the explanation...but as ryusher said,if pressig the hold it will lower 1 gear,and also got speed limit...would like to know if like that,pressing hold key and accelerate to 140,stressing the gearbox,no?
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post Apr 5 2012, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(jeremy7 @ Apr 5 2012, 07:00 PM)
thanks a lot for the explanation...but as ryusher said,if pressig the hold it will lower 1 gear,and also got speed limit...would like to know if like that,pressing hold key and accelerate to 140,stressing the gearbox,no?
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Force the 3rd gear accelerate is abit stressing... But no choice if we need power with high rpm in short moment, usually I won't use hold for a long period when in high speed.


By the way, after my google for hold button again and experiment while I drive back to home just now, the hold button not only limit the highest gear position, it also block 1st gear in D & S mode, except L mode.

Means once the hold button pressed, the gear will only available in 2nd & 3rd for D, 2nd only for S.

This made our Mazda having a more smooth driving experience on the slow traffic, in normal situation, our car will use the 1st gear and switch to 2nd gear in couple of second and then the car stop for a stupid jam. And the car keep repeat changing gear from 1st > 2nd > stop > 1st > 2nd > stop>.... With hold button, it will only use 2nd gear and your gear box won't to busy switching here switching there. smile.gif

Conclusion, hold is use to squeeze power in Highspeed for emergency of a short period, comfort the driving experience in slow traffic.

Sounds like so magic and this proof our Mazda2 is a smart choice again~ smile.gif

This post has been edited by ryusher: Apr 5 2012, 08:52 PM
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post Apr 5 2012, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(ryusher @ Apr 5 2012, 08:49 PM)
Force the 3rd gear accelerate is abit stressing... But no choice if we need power with high rpm in short moment, usually I won't use hold for a long period when in high speed.
By the way, after my google for hold button again and experiment while I drive back to home just now, the hold button not only limit the highest gear position, it also block 1st gear in D & S mode, except L mode.

Means once the hold button pressed, the gear will only available in 2nd & 3rd for D, 2nd only for S.

This made our Mazda having a more smooth driving experience on the slow traffic, in normal situation, our car will use the 1st gear and switch to 2nd gear in couple of second and then the car stop for a stupid jam. And the car keep repeat changing gear from 1st > 2nd > stop > 1st > 2nd > stop>.... With hold button, it will only use 2nd gear and your gear box won't to busy switching here switching there. smile.gif

Conclusion, hold is use to squeeze power in Highspeed for emergency of a short period, comfort the driving experience in slow traffic.

Sounds like so magic and this proof our Mazda2 is a smart choice again~ smile.gif
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post Apr 5 2012, 09:34 PM

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clap clap clap...thx man...proud to own a mazda 2...ZOOM
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post Apr 5 2012, 09:48 PM

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Hi fellas , I'm still new in fast and furious thread , just a noob question for vios user...

Compared to Mazda 2 , I assume Toyota vios is comparable to Mazda 2 due to both having almost same mid stream compact car right ?

For price diff , Mazda 2 priced around 78500 , while type e vios is priced around 81000.
And engine spec almost the same but tyre for Mazda 2 is much bigger and car interior also a little bit better than vios , while vios type e still more exp than Mazda 2.

I also notice that in Malaysia vios population is better than Mazda 2...
Is Mazda 2 fuel consumption high or other aspect made the population low ?

Can sifus here willing to share out the comparison between this 2 model ?

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post Apr 6 2012, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(kellefe @ Apr 5 2012, 09:48 PM)
Hi fellas , I'm still new in fast and furious thread , just a noob question for vios user...

Compared to Mazda 2 , I assume Toyota vios is comparable to Mazda 2 due to both having almost same mid stream compact car right ?

For price diff , Mazda 2 priced around 78500 , while type e vios is priced around 81000.
And engine spec almost the same but tyre for Mazda 2 is much bigger and car interior also a little bit better than vios , while vios type e still more exp than Mazda 2.

I also notice that in Malaysia vios population is better than Mazda 2...
Is Mazda 2 fuel consumption high or other aspect made the population low ?

Can sifus here willing to share out the comparison between this 2 model ?
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Every car has their pro n cons, there are no perfect car.

If u looking for comparison, here are my personal view,



Exterior, very subjective, my point of view are M2 more sporty n energetic, vios is more mature.

Interior, both are plastic (what to expect on that price range?) size n space are abang adik for b segment car.

Engine, no idea of the different, better ask others sifu. Normal driver like us are unable to differentiate the engine, don't bother of the figure, u can't feel the different of 1 or 2 horse power.

Fuel consumption, both are light car with approximate 1000 kg with 1500 cc,
result won't too far away my average for M2 is rm 0.16-0.17 per km ( Ron 95, rm 1.90/l) city drive.

Break, both front disc back drum.

Gear, both 4 speed auto.

Unique features, vios have electronic retractable wing mirror, Mazda have steering wheel audio control.
Mazda promotion with foc DVD navigator.

Maintinence, Mazda free 3 years warranty n maintainence (yes, the maintainence bill is rm0 for lubricant oil n filter & labour charges) vios was easily to get spare part from outside workshop and more foreman know how to repair the vios.

Tyre, mazda2 15" with better handling, vios 14" with better fuel consumption.


Second hand price, no idea for mazda2(if not mistaken Malaysia was start to sell m2 on 2010), but vios is having a unbeatable 2nd hand price (this is why vios is so popular in Malaysia although others country use as taxi...) good second hand price also means high risk of theft.

Except 2nd hand price, i will say both car are more or less the same. Why not go test drive and compare which car more comfortable for you?

If resell price really a concern for you, your only option is T or H brand car in Malaysia. This why all Malaysian like those brand and popular in maaysia, because people planned to sell the car before they buy. smile.gif

This post has been edited by ryusher: Apr 6 2012, 09:39 AM
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post Apr 6 2012, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(ryusher @ Apr 5 2012, 06:11 PM)
based on my Google research and personal experiment, the HOLD button will force to lower 1 level of the max gear position.

Example, in normal condition,
We can go up to 4th gear @ D, 3rd gear @ S & 2nd Gear @ L

if we pressed Hold, the max gear position will be
3rd gear @ D, 2nd gear @ S & 1st Gear @ L

In normal driving situation, the gear position will auto go one level down if we press the accelerator harder for acceleration, but the gear position will come back to the original position if we loosen the accelerator, if we need more power to acceleration again, we need to repeat the same action, but the gear positioning switching impact is very uncomfortable.

When we use the hold button, the gear will not back to the highest gear position even we loosen the accelerator. This will be more comfort to the driver & passenger and maintain the high power output with high RPM.

I tried on the highway, when i drive about 110km/h, i press the hold button and the car was able to reach 140km/h in a short moment.

Hold also good on hill road, i used hold + S for my Cameron highland trip, it's feel great!
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Ryusher. i think it is not precise. Hold means Holding the gear position you are in. it is different compared to D2 or D3 or S
As i know let say you are in 3rd postion and u are in D2, u dont want your car to slip in lower or higher but to maintain at 3rd gear only, then you need to press the hold gear. This is from my experience driving a vios, Myvi and my lovely Zoom.


Added on April 6, 2012, 9:58 am
QUOTE(ryusher @ Apr 6 2012, 12:59 AM)
Every car has their pro n cons, there are no perfect car.

If u looking for comparison, here are my personal view,
Exterior, very subjective, my point of view are M2 more sporty n energetic, vios is more mature.

Interior, both are plastic (what to expect on that price range?) size n space are abang adik for b segment car.

Engine, no idea of the different, better ask others sifu. Normal driver like us are unable to differentiate the engine, don't bother of the figure, u can't feel the different of 1 or 2 horse power.

Fuel consumption, both are light car with approximate 1000 kg with 1500 cc,
result won't too far away my average for M2 is rm 0.16-0.17 per km ( Ron 95, rm 1.90/l) city drive.

Break, both front disc back drum.

Gear, both 4 speed auto.

Unique features, vios have electronic retractable wing mirror, Mazda have steering wheel audio control.
Mazda promotion with foc DVD navigator.

Maintinence, Mazda  free 3 years warranty n maintainence (yes, the maintainence bill is rm0 for lubricant oil n filter & labour charges) vios was easily to get spare part from outside workshop and more foreman know how to repair the vios.

Tyre, mazda2 15" with better handling, vios 14" with better fuel consumption.
Second hand price, no idea for mazda2(if not mistaken Malaysia was start to sell m2 on 2010), but vios is having a unbeatable 2nd hand price (this is why vios is so popular in Malaysia although others country use as taxi...) good second hand price also means high risk of theft.

Except 2nd hand price, i will say both car are more or less the same. Why not go test drive and compare which car more comfortable for you?

If resell price really a concern for you, your only option is T or H brand car in Malaysia. This why all Malaysian like those brand and popular in maaysia, because people planned to sell the car before they buy. smile.gif
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FC, almost same. Another thing to add here is M2 car is unique and is nimble.
There are only only cons which i get from rear passengers, Sitting at back for a long journey kills them.M2 rear seat is not comfortable for a long journey. but hey, It's my car and i don always have rear passengers. hehehe

This post has been edited by leinnz: Apr 6 2012, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(kellefe @ Apr 5 2012, 09:48 PM)
Hi fellas , I'm still new in fast and furious thread , just a noob question for vios user...

Compared to Mazda 2 , I assume Toyota vios is comparable to Mazda 2 due to both having almost same mid stream compact car right ?

For price diff , Mazda 2 priced around 78500 , while type e vios is priced around 81000.
And engine spec almost the same but tyre for Mazda 2 is much bigger and car interior also a little bit better than vios , while vios type e still more exp than Mazda 2.

I also notice that in Malaysia vios population is better than Mazda 2...
Is Mazda 2 fuel consumption high or other aspect made the population low ?

Can sifus here willing to share out the comparison between this 2 model ?
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The very main thing is M2 a lot more quiet than vios. I'm driving vios n my gf is driving m2. Some times we swap n my gf also noticed about tat. Can u imagine a gal also complain about tat?
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Hi zoomers, i plan to be a member of this unique ride soon ^^ do you have recommendations for the sport skirting? I felt the back is a bit too high to my liking..
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post Apr 11 2012, 05:16 AM

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as above post,malaysia still not much modification..bangkok a lot...
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post Apr 11 2012, 09:50 PM

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Thanks ryusher for your detailed explanation ,
M2 is a unique car compare to vios , while vios has the advantage of resale value...
But m2 resale value really that low? Any the spare part issue.
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post Apr 12 2012, 10:02 AM

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Bro, Vios is a Hot Car... also insurance for Vios is high due to Hot Car
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post Apr 12 2012, 10:14 AM

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M2 2 years old.. how much should i insure it?

65k?
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post Apr 12 2012, 03:52 PM

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use the calculator here.
http://www.autoclaims.com.my/agv1/valua2.p...+1.5i&Year=2010

Says here rm67K for V spec and RM70K for R specs Sedan.
u can lower it. 65K should b Ok
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QUOTE(jeremy7 @ Apr 11 2012, 05:16 AM)
as above post,malaysia still not much modification..bangkok a lot...
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Wait till there's more Mazda2 in malaysia and I think more dealers will bring parts in hmm.gif
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might as well bring in m2 with skyactiv..

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