the application form also need to fill in our present salary. salary slip is to prove it.
i don't think we can avoid giving it to interviewer unless we are not desperate 4 that job. Most employer ask for that

This post has been edited by adwan: Oct 3 2014, 08:58 PM

the employer will be skeptical to your application.
u can put negotiable in the expected salary column but no the present salary column.

the application form asking your present company salary. it does not depend on the range of salary that they going to offer.
and then they will get negative impression on us if we talk about what salary we going to get before the interview session even began.

aiyo, u don't know most of us are youngsters meh?
why some of your comment sound so unpractical and not down to earth 1?

i share my real life experiences here and i am not the philosophy lecturer like some1 here. this has nothing to do with 10 years doing a lot thing or 1 years doing nothing or little thing etc.
i have friend who have 8 years experiences who get an interview through contact. but still she has to go for proper channel, i.e., fill in the form, attend interview in front of the panel members before she get her current job.
that why this thread is create in the first place.
in big company, only the top or very senior management can overwrite the hr procedures...when they looking for a very senior position, examples, ceo, coo or at least gm level.
and i am damn sure that these "senior" people are very busy in the real life rather than busy body in the forum

i don't understand why some1 here keep talking about that top 1 to 3% of the employee who are not required to go through the proper interview channel. those senior people are in the ceo, coo, gm, highly specialise position and they already well known in their own industries. majority of us are not in that category.

i agree that contact helps in securing the job. but that also depends on the person who introduce ourselves into the new company. unless that particular person is the owner, ceo, coo or gm who have the right to bypass the hr, we probably to go thru the normal hr protocol, fair or not fair. again, only very low percentage of us know or close to the ceo, coo etc. in big organisation with > 1000 employee, we hardly have a chance to see ceo, coo but only our manager, senior etc. as such, i think it is not so relevant to most of us here.

i am not sure other company. but in my company, the hr procedures is approved by the senior management and ceo himself. head of hr is also very strict and close to the director. hr procedure is there of a reason and no for display purpose.

This post has been edited by adwan: Oct 6 2014, 10:05 PM

i am the hr scumbag??

yes. connection is important.
but it does not means that the company will allow us to bypass the hr and recruitment process.

& u r not listening to big brother here who eat salt > u eat rice. LOL

tried it..... then let us know the outcome in this forum.

suggest u read from page 1 of this thread, we have argued this issue from different perspectives.....eventually it is up to you to decide.

imho, it depends on individual company hr and hiring managers on factors such as:
i) is the company hr very particular on this payslip/ current salary/ expected salary details?
ii) how desperate they want 2 get in the candidate?
iii) the level of position that u applied. etc

another interesting thread you can refer:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1965454/all

This post has been edited by adwan: Dec 11 2014, 07:05 AM

dreamer dupe account. lol.

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This post has been edited by adwan: Dec 12 2014, 05:12 PM

brother, are u working in singapore?
r there any difference in terms of practices between Mal and Sin regarding hr requesting payslips/ current salary/ expected salary during the recruitment?
thanks!

how they want to verify our epf contribution since we don't give out our epf number during the interview time?

only submit the epf number after joining the company.

This post has been edited by adwan: Dec 15 2014, 08:52 AM

the hr can check it via the system online or need 2 to the epf counter to check?

well...since advance country like singapore also adopt the same policy, then why not we just follow that policy? unless we have strong leverage like what some1 mentioned in the thread.....eg. we have very good reputation in the fields/ industry that we worked in, we get to know someone who can help us to bypass the hr, we can bring in some new customers to increase their sales etc.

pls don't get me wrong, i fully agree with some of the comments here such as low ball our salary, salary is p&c, employer should pay based on our potential values/ contributions rather rather XX% + our previous salary. i really hate it when i go to interview myself.

the point is no matter how well we argued in this thread, the hr in malaysia & singapore companies are not going to change their interviewing procedures. it has been practiced since many years ago (this thread is started in Sep 2010).

i troll a lot in kopitiam, but i really concern some gullible forummers end up like this poor ts here (do read the first post):

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1965454/all

This post has been edited by adwan: Dec 15 2014, 11:42 PM

ok. it may not be policy...but it is the common hr practices or hr procedures.
pls do continue to protect your own interest in this thread....and go round & round talking the same thing over and over again...
this thread can still be alive for another few more years....hopefully one day all the m'sia & sin company hr will change their mindset.