QUOTE(ken86 @ Sep 8 2010, 11:49 PM)
yea sure copy pasting from a source (
http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/caffeine.html) makes u extra smart. and having zero real world experience and probably don't look like you lifted a weight is very convincing as well.
The crowd here is more well informed than u thought maybe u can try your product with individuals looking for quick fixes , like the um "I will eat that cake and start my diet tomorrow" crowd. your snake oil like supplement will sell i guarantee.
What i said was do some research, i did not say i did this study myself. And this is an actual study. What is the internet for my friend. Do u know how much it costs to do a study? and you are talking about real world experience.
Well informed? i think you are just bored and are looking for opportunities to make yourself look smart. Come on la dude. i am just saying that this product was tested and if you like i can arrange for some samples to be sent to you. at the end of the day i am just looking for feedback not blatant flaming. Have a healthy discussion and not offend anyone. We are all grownups.
Btw this product is brought in by a friends company and i was just curious if you guys were into this type of product, because hydroxycut also uses caffeine.
Cheers.
QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Sep 9 2010, 12:14 AM)
Fat is stored in certain areas because of hormones. Hormones control the fat storage areas in our body. This is proven in Poliquin's Biosignature course, and he shows how to manipulate the fat in these areas with herbal extracts and minerals as well as regulation of mental health to control cortisol secretion which then leads to fat storage around the midsection.
Now if you're saying that caffeine is able to activate lipolysis in specific areas, bypassing our hormones merely by plastering a caffeine patch, can you show some research? Granted, caffeine has plenty of health benefits as well as performance benefits. My own friend has done a research checking correlation between the effects of caffeine and creatine to the athletes performance, and there's a POSITIVE correlation. However, I've NEVER heard about caffeine TARGETING fat stores. Activates fat burning hormones, thermogenesis...agreed completely. But spotting. Nope. Never read of any papers that shows that.
Perhaps you could point out these papers so we could do some studies.
Hi bro i like the way you put things, now this is a healthy discussion.
first of all i think you guys have gone way into spot reduction, the reason i say this is because it could be applied anywhere on the body. The difference when consumed is that caffeine goes into the stomach and liver then into the bloodstream. Which naturally is distributed around the body. But with transdermal dont you think it will have more effect when applied directly on to the area. Yes it will be distributed around the body via the bloodstream but dont you think the concentration of caffeine would be higher if you target the area?
study:
A study conducted at the federal University of the State of Rio Janeiro, under the leadership of Omar Lupi, demonstrated the slenderizing benefits of caffeine. These study has been published in the Journal of cosmetic dermatology.
A cream containing more of a caffeine percentage was effective in reducing upper and lower thighs borderlines as well as hip measurements.
Now a cream has been develop and produce that might be effective in slenderizing thighs and hips. Primarily the cream contains 7% of caffeine solution. This cream has been actually tested in a study of 99 female who use and applied the cream twice a day for a month, for at least 30 days. The test measures the subjects' upper and lower thigh and hip border line before beginning and end of the study. Results have shown that at the end of the study, 80% of the subjects who took part in the experiement showed decrease in the thigh area border line. The more pleasing thing is that at least 68% of these females also showed reduction in the hips area measurements.
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The research also state that this is not a wonder drug and that if coupled with working out will help significantly
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