Walao! CF N900! Sick!

FCam is a very powerful open-source C++ API for easy and precise control of digital cameras. When installed the drivers, many developers can make use of this API and create many powerful app for the camera.
The default FCam app is already superb, it unlock manual focus, more control over exposure, iso sensitivity, etc. and the picture quality taken is way better than the original camera software.

There is also 2 more apps:
HDR - which allows you to capture HDR shots (e.g. take 3 pictures of different exposure and merge them).
LowLight - which allows you to capture better picture under low light conditions (e.g. take 2 picture and merge them to get better results).

http://fcam.garage.maemo.org/

HDR and lowlight app:
http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/07/27/...light-examples/

Technically speaking, iOS is does not have homescreen/desktop process, no widgets, everything keep plain and simple. There's no doubt it will be a lot smoother than any smartphones out there.
But it doesn't mean it wont lag or hang at all, higher possibilities if you have jb it or depends on the apps; but as Apple has strict QC on the apps, the apps are surely more stable.

Simply put, the more freedom, the more flexibility, the more risk and problems. It'll then depends on how the user use and manage it.

As for Symbian, the devices offered always have lack of memory issue. Take for example, the N81; the free internal memory (ram?) is like what? Around 25MB? After install Nokia Maps 2.0 and N-Gage Arena, you're left with around 5MB++? Surfing few websites you'll ended up with "not enough memory" error, and you'll have to clear the cache. And overtime, something seems to be taking up the internal memory and you'll notice it gets lesser and lesser.
Plus, when you have low memory, when you blast SMS to Contact Groups, you will get phone lagging issue or worst case scenario, the whole SMS system goes crazy.
N95 have more than 100MB free as I checked with my friend, thus it's one of the least problem Nokia Symbian devices.
N97 also suffered the very same issue with internal memory, despite being a flagship device. After the later firmware update, it improves a little; I think like around 50MB++ free internal memory, which is still not much or very little.

If you surf Desktop version FB, most probably will exceed? Especially if you view images, etc.
LYN also depends, if you view Desktop version, and people post image, and LYN got Flash ads, etc.

If you watch YouTube videos, FB videos, and upload pictures and videos to FB or other sites, 500M also not enough.

Yea, for Symbian I'm not sure; The available internal memory works like RAM, I suppose is available memory (RAM)?
Or maybe virtual memory?

NO, I'm not talking about internal storage. In Symbian, the internal memory is not your storage space (as in N81 8GB vs the non-8GB version; it doesn't matter if you get the 8GB or not), but memory when you install to phone memory, SMS, and also loading applications/process (RAM?).

Anyone got clear answer? How to check the ram usage for Symbian?
Why does the phone internal memory is low, applications cannot open, phone is laggy? This is similar to what happen when there is not enough ram (also refer as memory).

Even for N8, there was one incident the phone run out of memory when multi-tasking. That's internal memory.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 3 2010, 06:14 PM

Eiraku,

Thanks a lot for the clear explanation; The thing is, many website never mentioned the RAM available; and from the phone, we can only see the internal memory; But this internal memory, which also works as swap, when full, you will get not enough memory errors when you try to open apps or sms, etc. When blasting SMS to many contacts, it'll take up internal memory which you will notice its reduced and if its not enough, there will be problems.

The problem here is, people often think the internal memory and mass storage is the same thing; when they purchase a phone like those with memory card support and another with internal storage; they often think the internal storage = internal memory which is where they got the wrong idea. For example, the N81 and N81 8GB, many people mistaken and think the 8GB version will have more internal memory but ended up having the same problem.

Thus, the issue with Nokia symbian devices are the mainly the lack of ram and internal memory. From what I know, the N95 are a bit special as it comes with much more internal memory, in terms of free memory for the device itself.
This is the main reason I hated Nokia Symbian devices and reluctant to upgrade to N97 after finding out the lack of internal memory; It was also lucky I didn't get it as N900 comes and it was good, until Nokia sort of abandon it.

stock batt from N900? 1 year?
The N900 hasn't 1 year yet, I think you mean the same battery model as N900?

It also depends on your usage and how you charge the battery; Frequent discharge will affect it's lifespan and performance.

What connection are you using which have such short batt life? If 3G, then it will really drain your battery fast and also heat up your battery. Then depends on what kind of website you surf, those flash websites or those take require much processing power will definitely drain more.
On GSM mode (2G/2.5G), it can last much more longer.
WiFi even more longer, but ever since I'm using titan's kernel v40, the WiFi seems to consume more power even on idle.

I know, but N900 was only officially released only around end of November or early December last year right?
In September 2009, if I remember correctly, there might be test models for developers or something.
Did you mean you got those units? Those units as I know, might have the USB port issue.

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Added on September 4, 2010, 10:06 pmWhen they initially successfully overclock the N900, the voltage used was the same with 600Mhz and there was improvements on battery life as feedback by those that have OC. The logical explanation would be the task completed faster?
As for heat, the heat that we felt was from the battery; nobody actually knows the temperature or heat from the cpu itself. That's also what I've read; Actually, there're few devices running on same processor already OC long before N900.
The funny thing is how the initial reply from many people when someone suggested to overclock the N900. Moreover, the Droid/Milestone has been OC for months already when OC on N900 still on discussion whether it is possible. For the Android devices, they have very well built apps for OC.



This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 4 2010, 10:06 PM

Nice~ Didn't know got Malaysian get the test models! WOW!
So now we officially have rare N900 owner that hit 1 year mark!

There is; I read some sacrifice on the safety parts/components or whatever it is; which is which some non-ori battery is dangerous where it can leak or explodes? No idea; But so far, my ori battery, those that are extremely old (don't know how many years already, but still can use), the battery already bloated. My original PSP battery, bought since 2006, also bloated already; just changed new one this year.

MeeGo 1.1 Screenshots:
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Exclu...ial-Screenshots

Looking good, but still no where near Maemo for me. Sill look Android-ish.
Guess will see how it turns out in the end, the OS features, open-ness, and supports for videos, cameras, etc.

Yup, if he never show up, I don't know if there will be any official N900 thread.
When I got my N900 (AP), there is no official N900 thread. We all post in the N900 announcement thread, and finally TS started V1. That was the nice moment because everyone is excited and learning about the N900, sharing lots of information and also have to face daily iPride/iDontCare budak-kipas, haha

FCam can really take nice pictures, plus you have many flexibility in the settings. But its slow and a bit laggy, more when you try to adjust come settings, so not suitable when you need to shoot fast.
If the object is not moving and you have time, you can try to take same picture with default cam and fcam and see the difference. FCam should give you better result, especially in conditions where default cam have poor ligthing, FCam should do better.

You can also install LowLight app and HDR app. HDR app will take pictures in nice exposure, but its slow and takes time to process. Result is great!!
LowLight will give better shots in low light conditions.

But there's already so many similar interface OS around; no other that is similar with Maemo interface. It's such a waste.

MeeGo? There's already Android; and end users most probably wouldn't know the internal difference or the OS type. Plus, the MeeGo OS interface,... somehow I feel Android interface looks better. Ouch.

Maybe he is? He looks like one

We're very lucky Eiraku is still with us.

Will you be getting another N900 or wait for MeeGo? Hope all the N900 sifus/seniors will still be within the community by then
Jananan seems MIA for some time too; I've been using his suggestion to reset the swap usage thus less restart needed, but when setting swapoff, it takes some time, and if I go back to desktop or menu, the device will restart/shutdown. Need to let it finish and set it back on. Sometimes, when the swap usage too high, it refuse to off it, returning a message "Killed". No choice have to restart device.

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This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 6 2010, 12:34 AM

Wait longer, don't exit X-Terminal, don't go to Desktop, don't go to Menu.
If it's successful, it will go back to command, then you can type "free" to check the swap usage is now 0.
Then you should turn swap back on, or else you'll get into problem when the ram usage is over.

From my experience, if not successful, it will show message like "Killed"; when you type "free", you will see the swap is not turned off. I tried many times it still fails, so I restart my device instead.
You should start doing it when your swap hit like maybe 100 or more; If used up too much, your phone will be laggy and if too high, swapoff might fail to perform.
From my experience, usually when swap hit over 120mb, the performance issue is more noticeable, but it also depends on what you use and what's stored in the swap memory.
What I wonder is, how come some important process is allowed to be in swap memory which causes the phone is not respond or hang for some time (e.g. hildon-desktop? Is this process allowed to be in swap? If not, why it can stop responding?).
Usually if you access to Flash website, especially Flash games, you'll notice heavy usage of processing and swap memory.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 6 2010, 01:10 AM

Anybody read this?..............
http://forums.internettablettalk.com/showthread.php?p=806433

I think you install the driver only?
After install the driver, you need to install the app.

Normal use can last up to 4 days; My colleague doesn't subscribe to any plans, and he rarely connects to internet. Just using as normal phone with calls and sms. 4 Days no problem.

Got one day I was out and didn't really use the phone, whole day it drops less than 10%.


Actually there was already PR1.3 thread created during PR1.2.
And previously there was another PR1.3 thread, which I posted:
Nokia *waves hand* and says:
You WILL wait and purchase upcoming MeeGo device.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=50473&page=17

Ori set.

Mine AP set, if just use for normal calls and sms, it won't use much battery. But I usually use it a surf a lot.

Have you tried watching a 2+ hour movie? It shouldn't take much battery power as well.