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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Sep 6 2010, 04:35 PM)
mine also AP set...battery max is nearly two day...
My usage is like 10mins online via WIFI (ussually using laptop)
Phone calls 25-40mins
Sms >>>150 message
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I seldom use phone calls, so can't confirm with you. I online a lot, if on 2.5G, online in 3 IM accounts, and minor-moderate surfing, can last around 7~8 hours or longer. If heavy usage, probably by half day already left 30% or less. I carry the DC-11 around for extra power.
I charge my N900 everyday as I use it quite heavily. I can only say, I have never have one phone that can keep me hooked on and always use it. I hardly touch my iPod Touch 3G; bought it solely for the GPS and some apps and mostly games, but honestly speaking, gaming, I still prefer PSP with real controls. The thing is, there're many games that only available for iOS, and that's not nice. They should make it available for real consoles or portable gaming device with real controls. Playing with touchscreen kinda sux for certain types of game.

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QUOTE(Daniel89 @ Sep 6 2010, 09:35 PM)
Just checked at App Manager and it written there Fcam Drivers lol ! It seem like I couldn't find Fcam in my app manager maybe I should look around maemo.org then x.x
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Where did you check? Under Downloads section? if downloads section, you will not be able to see those you have installed.
Those that you have installed will be show under Uninstall section.

If you're seeing FCam Drivers in downloads section, it means you didn't install the drivers.

If you're using titans-kernel, you might want to avoid the latest FCam version. Use the older version and use titans fcam kernel version.

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QUOTE(ShrugsLova @ Sep 7 2010, 01:15 AM)
Bang,

ini ke?

FCamera
Activating extras-devel
In the Application Manager:
1.Tap the title bar to bring up the menu
2.Select 'Application catalogs'
3.Select 'New'
4.Enter a catalog name of 'Maemo extras-devel'
5.Enter a web address of http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel
6.Enter a distribution of 'fremantle'
7.Enter components of 'free non-free'
8.Select 'Save'
9.Tell the Application Manager to update. This may take a while.
10.Select Download, All, and start typing "hdrcapture". It should highlight the application. Click on it to install it.
Be warned, this is a beta app, so be patient if it crashes occasionally

including low light? or just HDR only? or both?
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1. FCam driver
2. FCam app
3. HDRCapture (to auto capture/merge HDR image; e.g. combine 3 different exposure picture)
4. LowLight (to capture LowLight image; e.g. combine 2 picture with different shutter speed? to get better results between both)

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post Sep 8 2010, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 8 2010, 12:02 PM)
Photography is about art.
If oneself do not know the art it will look weird.

If you know the art it can make the ugliest thing looks beautiful.
We all have the same phone and camera so its fun to see the output. Winner photo will be posted on frontpage
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Maybe we should take the ugliest selipar we can find and make it look beautiful; Who can do it is amazing, hehehe tongue.gif

Last time my colleague took one lake picture, it looks so beautiful, but the real lake is so dirty and ugly, rubbish around, etc.


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QUOTE(ShrugsLova @ Sep 8 2010, 03:20 PM)
humble thanks, glad u like it.

is BOKEY a software?
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BOKEH or BOKEY?
BOKEH is a photography term for blur/out-of-focus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokeh

I'm lovin' your Blog too!

Resistive Touch is said that it can support Multi-touch; just the implementation ins different.

Resistive is actually preferred back in those days where Pocket PCs, Tablets is used. We need accuracy touch and some sort of pressure sensitivity, both which Capacitive lacks of. Since N900 is a tablet, I think it's more appropriate to have resistive.
With the ability to use stylus/fingernails, we don't have to zoom in to click on links, when playing games/apps, no worrying of pressing the wrong button/menu.
Finally, the ability to use proper painting/sketching app and creating fine/profesional arts, which is not possible with capacitive touch, yet they create app for it, which I find totally pointless, more like for kids.

MyPaint on N900, thanks to Resistive touch:


Nonetheless, the best is both technology combine; Previously I read they is a new technology which will have both the advantages of Resistive and Capacitive, and it will also have real/multi-level pressure sensitivity. Not sure when it will be available.
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QUOTE(ShrugsLova @ Sep 9 2010, 01:40 AM)
what's the different between power and titan
the Oc in frontpage is power or titan then?
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Titan kernel lets you do many other stuffs. For OC, it allows "ON DEMAND" Over-clock, which means, when I need the extra power, I just issue the command and I can overclock to the specified clock speed. We can create shortcut or use Desktop Command Execution Widget or Queen Beacon widget to this, so just press the button/icon on the Desktop and wallah, Overclocked~
When finish, just press the other button/icon to reset to default clock speed.


QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Sep 9 2010, 06:06 AM)
Kesian....
I've started saving money for N9.If MeeGo turns to be dissapointment,I'll go for the any decent HTC Android with physical keyboard.
I don't care about the so call pro reviewers review.I'll test N9 on my own & decide what I feel.No more stinking fanboy comment for me.
You have any comment for this theory?
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Milestone2... Milestone 2... Milestone 2...

See if Nokia MeeGo device will have physical keyboard and how it look first. But I think the first MeeGo device is another Testing device. AFAIK, it's a rebrand of Maemo6/Harmattan, and previously there was people saying it will still be using deb packaging system instead of rpm, which the "real" MeeGo is using. So, what does this MeeGo means? a stepping stone towards actual MeeGo? I also read that the reason is because Maemo6 has already in development when MeeGo project comes in, so instead of dropping it, they rebranded it to MeeGo and proceed from there.
This is kind of worrying, but most important is, as end user, there is no significant differences and the apps/games are compatible.

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QUOTE(ShrugsLova @ Sep 9 2010, 03:05 PM)
all want N9 only
great explanation..thank u..
simply meaning..if i OC..it will drain more power..less battery life?
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Depends, with titan kernel, you have option to overlock with different voltage, such as, low voltage (lv), ultra low voltage (ulv), ideal (ideal), starving, etc.
The problem is when using too low voltage, your device will restart if it can't take it, and no idea if it will brick your device.

Supposedly, when using lower voltage, it should use less power hence more battery life.
As for default voltage, before titan kernel was released, those that have overclocked claimed to have improved battery life; the possible explanation would be a task can be completed faster, and the CPU can return to idle fast;
Example:
100% usage on 600Mhz for 10 secs to complete a task
When overclock to 900Mhz, maybe it will much less time to complete.

When usage of CPU hits 100%, you will notice your battery starting to heat up, prolong 100%, your battery will be really hot for long period.
Example:
Playing 2 hours long movie, playing with console emulators (when overclock, the emulation is smoother and faster), etc.

It may happen sometimes when some process got stuck, and no have no apps running and you notice your device is hot and battery is draining real fast; For this, you have to manually kill the task or restart your N900.

I'm using titans kernel and usually I Overclock when I'm doing web surfing with multiple windows. Sometimes when playing movies (TV-Out), I would overclock as well for a wee bit smoother playback I think (altough supposedly it is using the GPU), especially for some files that required to use mplayer to play as this mplayer is using the cpu instead of gpu, so the difference is really noticeable.

Btw, do you happen to know Donovan?


Added on September 9, 2010, 3:58 pm
QUOTE(ShrugsLova @ Sep 9 2010, 03:50 PM)
yer..pm pm me where u get and how much la
i fetch u with rx-8 later
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Haha, I wonder what aspire will be driving tongue.gif

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QUOTE(jm0use @ Sep 9 2010, 04:03 PM)
i have internet connection, why need to pay for dataline somemore..just dont have wifi router..
please help
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Buy a cheap USB Wifi adapter.

Set up the connection as ad-hoc mode in your PC.
Click on your internet connection and share the Internet Connection.
Connect your N900 to your PC via ad-hoc mode (in the connection settings).

You're now connected to your PC and can use the Internet Connection, and it's Wireless.

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QUOTE(ShrugsLova @ Sep 9 2010, 04:54 PM)
drive ur merc la..how far can u go with ur merc?
Donovan..i've no idea..
Aspire driving merc
man..seem like Titan Kernel has advantages in that..
says..where can i look for info to Titan Kernel
aspire guide is power kernel not..but since it's battery saving..why not straigh power kernel OC..
same here..but i said if you're DESPERATE
how cheap is cheap usb wifi adapter? wait a minute..my laptop got wifi wor..
wait wait i try


Added on September 9, 2010, 5:05 pmok done with internet connection sharing..
using my laptop

here is how to share via window 7

http://www.kombitz.com/2009/02/09/windows-...ad-hoc-network/

hope it help
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For the full details of OC with Titans kernel, view below post by jakiman:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=595582

From above posting, scroll down and you can see the Desktop screenshot how it can be implemented using Queen Beacon Widget. Although using this widget will consume more memory.

Previously, Eiraku did provided his version of step by step, which include creating shortcut icons on Desktop instead of using widgets.

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QUOTE(Daniel89 @ Sep 10 2010, 10:25 AM)
Is there any command to kill or turn off app by using X-Terminal ? Just now my fcam just hang right there with "saving..." Now I couldn't open camera it said Operation Failed and Fcam said couldn't detect the sensor and please close some camera app. Maybe because just now I saw it just hang there and I switch to multi task and switch it off right there but it didn't worked though so now I just leave it there but I am worried that next time it will still happen like this so I was wondering we can close or kill app by x-terminal command right ?
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The easy way, restart your phone.

If you know what you're doing, there's 2 option below:
1. EASY - install HTOP, it is like TaskManager, you can organize by highest processor usage, then you can find the processes that is hogging the CPU keeping it at 100%. Select the process, there is option below to KILL the process.
NOTE: Becareful not to KILL core/system processes.
2. X-Terminal:
use "top" command to find the process_id or pid (can't remember) you want kill.
(I don't know how to exit from TOP, what I do is, close X-Terminal and re-open)
type "kill pid/process_id"

OR, another way to find the pid/process_id, you can use Conky app.


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QUOTE(Daniel89 @ Sep 10 2010, 06:55 PM)
Thanks for teaching smile.gif !
Hm I am wondering how you guys succeed to take like only focus at 1 object while the rest is all blur been trying it again and again but still fail already set AF point but when taking it it still appear to be normal photo..
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If your using default camera, you can try using "Macro" option, this will give you some these effect.
OR, in auto mode, try to focus on something really close, but must have enough lightings and the object must be visible or that the camera can focus successfully; If done correctly, your focus will be lock, hold the camera button but don't snap pictures yet; Now try to move away and face your camera on far objects, it will all be blur. Now you can put move your camera toward any object or move the object towards your camera so that it's sharp and clear, the background will be blur. This technique is useful especially when you can't focus on some object, e.g. try focus on the stylus, most probably it will fail to get focus; using this method you will be able to snap it nicely.

Another way, is to use FCam... you can set to MANUAL FOCUS... now you can take really nice macro shot or close up shots...

Here's a sample taken with default camera using the focus lock technique; Just an example, it's not really clear and sharp and have lots of noise:
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Here's 2 more shot using FCam via Manual Focus; via manual focus, seems it can focus much closer than default camera.

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Below shots has very little light, so the noise is really bad; I tried using manual ISO adjustment, but it'll cause blur due to the shutter is open longer for more light (I think). So, let it auto, I think it's using the maximum ISO...
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 10 2010, 07:52 PM)
Its like DSLR system u can choose where to shot so can create the "bokeh" effect

In the FCAM on third setting there something call focus.

Press that select point

Den touch on your phone which part you want it to focus only. When u click the camera button the phone will do the rest
Best part of FCAM u tell it to focus where you want it.
This effect is created by focus on an object first den half click the camera button to focus then take this shot

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Nice picture aspire!
We also can do it with manual focus, by adjusting the focus distance manually.

In FCam, when you choose Manual Focus mode, bottom have a bar, you can choose the most left to get the closest distance of focus, which is really near (I think the default camera unable to achieve this).
The result will be very nice close-up shot with nice blur background.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 10 2010, 08:34 PM)
cool havent played with the manual setting yet. There just so much to explore wek wek.
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Yup, FCam is great, simply amazing... we can have lots of control over the camera function, just like a semi-pro digital cam, like the Panasonic digital cam LX series. Another plus points is the automatic mode is able to capture very nice and professional shots.

In certain conditions, when I take pictures with the default cam, it's hard to get the right colour, exposure, etc. (e.g. sun too bright, reflection, etc). Frustrated, I switch to FCam, "wallah", it captured clearly and looks like edited by some pro. I'm speechless. The N900 camera was so-so, but FCam makes it great!


Added on September 10, 2010, 8:46 pm
QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Sep 10 2010, 08:39 PM)
The goal of NITDroid has always been to used alongside Maemo.Not to replace it.
Most probably by installing NITDroid in eMMC means making a special partition & dual boot with Maemo.

Now that NITDroid installation is over time for me to mess around with fcamera.
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True, why want to replace? Better get a real Android device, which by now has far better specs than N900.

For me, I'd take Maemo anytime, although there is still a lot need to be done and polished, but the experience, the Desktop, the customization, etc was simply too great to resist, it's not like the ordinary smartphone OS. If only N900 comes with more ram instead of virtual memory and more processing power...

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For those who miss out my previous post of the link to HDR and LowLight introduction, here:
http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/07/27/...light-examples/

And, here's a review for FCam by a blogger:
http://ericscorner.blogspot.com/2010/07/fc...900-review.html
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Holy?

http://maemobriefs.blogspot.com/2010/09/no...720-screen.html

Screen Resolution: 1280 * 720
Screen Color Depth: 24 bit
Screen Size: 4.0 inch
Display Technology: OLED (RGB)
Thickness: 14.2 mm
Weight: 150
Input Method: Touch Screen and slide-out QWERTY keyboard
Data Bearers: IEEE 802.11b/g/n WLAN, HSPA +, WCDMA, EGPRS, EDGE
CPU Type: ARM Cortex-A8
CPU Clock Rate: 1 GHz

Graphics Processor: SGX540
Flash Technology: Adobe Flash 1.10
Camera Resolution: 12 MP (4000 * 3000)
CMOS sensor: 1/1.7 inch
Camera focal length: 28 mm
Video Recording Resolution: 1280 * 720
Video Recording Frame Rate: 30 fps
Mass Storage Memory: 64 GB Mass
NAND Memory: 1 GB
SDRAM Memory: 512 MB SDRAM Memory: 512 MB
Maximum Memory Card Size: 32 GB
Connectivity: Bluetooth 3.0, HDMI mini connector C, Micro-USB (OTG) ...
Battery: 1320 mAh


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Sensor better than N8? drool.gif
What is Flash 1.10?
OLED instead of AMOLED or Super AMOLED?

The let down would be the processor though; By the time it's launch, not sure what's processor speed the rivals are running on already; Next year Samsung and LG will have dual-core ARM coupled with GPU 5X better/faster.



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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 11 2010, 03:07 AM)
Those supposed N9 (or whatever) specs look legit enough, and it matches much of the info I've been collecting so far. Except for that screen reso, which will be killer - as in "are you serious Nokia?" killer.

And yes Nokia, the OMAP fanboy in me thanks you for not straying into the dark path of the Snapdragon.

But really, dual-core or no dual-core, this thing is bound for christmas, and by then it should be an acceptably competitive device in my book - for Nokia standards anyway.

As long as Meego doesn't flop. Which I really hope it won't because for some unknown reason I just can't make myself love Android, yet.
Oh well, Nokia World is just a couple of more days away anyhow. Come on Nokia, surprise me and make me fall in love with you all over again.
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Most of the thing was a WOW, except the processor (+GPU) and screen. Actually, I thought they will be using Intel processor on the upcoming MeeGo, which claims to uses very low power consumption (which explains the smaller battery capacity), but seems it's not? Or not yet ready? Perhaps the next ACTUAL MeeGo? Since this most probably is a rebrand of Maemo6?

As for Android, it looks better than Symbian and Windows Mobile; If there's no Maemo, I would've gone for Android. I don't even find the upcoming Windows Phone 7 OS interesting, it looks rather fugly (personal opinion) from the demos of the UI. The core of Android is Java, but it still very much depends on C/C++ (e.g. API, Open GL, etc). Those cool games I think they're not coded in Java right? I think those written in C/C+ needs to be compiled into native ARM Code... Anyway, don't know much about these high level stuffs, just that I know many of those high end games are not coded in Java, even from long ago Symbian like N-Gage, 3650, 6600, etc. We can clearly see the difference between Java games and non-Java games. But correct me if I'm wrong, this is just my understanding.

QUOTE(Patent @ Sep 11 2010, 07:43 AM)
but 1320 mah battery ? aw cmon..

it wont even last half a day...
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IF supposedly they're using Intel's new processor, supposedly it should promotes to better battery life? But seems it's not?

And if it's using AMOLED or SUPER AMOLED, it should contributes to better battery life as well But then again, seem it's not?

We'll just have to see the final specs and how well MeeGo OS manage on the battery life. If battery life is good on 1320mah at such specs, it'll be a WOW!

QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 11 2010, 08:33 AM)
Wont for resisitve. Capacitive could be different
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Yup, according to gbil, supposedly one of the developers involved of MeeGo (Maemo6), he explains why they choose capacitive instead of resistive and said although he also prefers resistive, but the product is for general public, so they have to follow the majority or general public;
I think this situation is similar with Maemo... it's a high end OS for tablets which is powerful and offer lots of freedom, but not much people appreciates it and knows how to use it, it requires some knowledge to use it, so people tend to stray away and go for more simple and straightforward smartphones (like iOS), thus MeeGo need to be targeted for more types of users in order to be successful.


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New FREE game available for Nokia N900:
http://www.nokian900applications.com/kroll-for-nokia-n900/

The link above, read the comments for how to install it (need rootsh installed).

Here's another different instruction how to install it
http://85.17.230.229/showthread.php?p=3251429

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Video posted by "Leo the Lion" (ex-N900 owner in N8 forum):


In the video last part, below regain the TOP:
? C,X,E 7
! N 8
? N 9
&.... (is that a Joker card)?


Which device will be the Joker card?

C7, X7, E7 and N9:
http://noknok.tv/2010/06/09/nokia-c7-nokia...-due-this-year/
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 12 2010, 04:07 PM)
which one not FCAM? another software?
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There's 2 more app which uses FCam drivers, which is HDR and LowLight.

HDR will auto merge for you.
Basically, FCam provides the API or functionality for developers to have more access to the camera; FCam app is the default app, other developers can use the API to develop wonder/powerful applications.
HDR and LowLight is a sample.

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