True. But then i prefer a more linear and progressive feel lah.. Almost accident a few times today.. frightened the balls out of me. And i noticed that there is a fair amount of nose diving under slightly harder than normal braking. Quite bad if we were wet roads.

well there is also another pads called rapid stop. Anybody used it b4? Is the bendix and trestor 550Celcius pad like the rapid stop rating? Maybe will try trestor lah. Bendix got the screeching sound when braking right?

Will keep in mind to change the rear springs too. Visibility out of my side mirror are obstructed a bit by the high butt end. Maybe will change to APM Performax absorbers soon. My neighbour fixed it in his wira evo and its really very good. No nose diving, good rebound rate and dampening is great.

Long live manual cars. Really damn different. I didnt get a manual over here is cos
1) im staying in subang. The jam kills!
2) the persona clutch release (biting point) is very high. I dont like clutch which has long throw.
3) i tested my frens 1st gen persona manual. The gear stalk is too tall and the travel for each gear is too far and not nice feeling too.
So thats y i settled for auto. Planning to get a good car when i start working. Prolly type-R or inspiravolution. XD.

This post has been edited by ZenGTMM: Nov 3 2010, 12:17 PM

my family nissan b14 also got oh. Car is 13yrs old car dy.

isnt awesome? I was thinking of putting matte black wheels with chrome lip.

ya lah when want to TT?
How about next weekend or the next next weekend?

Organise senang aje mah.. Set up a meeting place like mamak and then everyone go meetup there right? or u want to have drag race acitivities also?

ok lah u all suggest some places with car parks around kl or selangor. I dont know any good places except for subang area. But here always jam lah. So pls give some suggestions..

USJ19 carrefour as in the Digital Mall outdoor car park there?

Hi guys.. Want to ask you all something bout ur persona, while driving right, do you suddenly have long pauses of the radio? Mine always have it while listening to radio station.. Hitz.fm to be exact.. I dont think its a problem with the station.. Is it due to the voltage fluctuation?? Cos afaik voltage fluctuation only causes 2-3sec disruption, but my radio sometimes even pauses up to 5-7sec.. And also the reception is rather poor.. Sometimes can hear a lot of sssssssssssss sound.. like radio tak tuning properly like that..

Tried a lot of things ady.. increase the volume, mute the volume, change channel, or even change to disc also no use.. the radio sort of hang ady.. First time i thought it was the alternator kicking in.. But then after that when i am cruising (80kmh) on the kesas highway it also happened twice. And i was not accelerating or what.. My aircon also was off (sejuk giler at highest temp with lowest blower =.=).. So i suspect it must be something else..

About ur geologist claims, refer here http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficie.../question90.htm.
In short, using Ron97/95 is the same, unless if ur geologist is referring to ur Air/Fuel mixture being either too rich or too lean. Our engines are designed to NOT burn all 100% of the fuel injected into the cylinder, as this will cause the engine to be too hot and expand thus causing block crack. So there is a small percentage of unburnt fuel which exits the combustion chamber and converted to Co2 by the catalytic converter.

1) Fog on the internal is caused when ur internal car temp is higher than the outside temp, which causes condensation of the vapor inside the car window, the best way is to apply some anti fogging washer which u can buy from accessory shop or u can just run the aircon compressor and set the temperature to be slightly higher. A compressor do help in drying up the air and prevent too much vapor too.

2) gear 2 and L is the gear correspodively. it locks the auto gearbox to that particular gears and prevent it from changing, so that the gearbox doesnt always change gear when going up or down hill; or if u need some power to tarik engine for pickup.. XD

3) Ron95 Rm1.85/litre, Ron97 RM2.15/ litre.


Any PE drivers who have installed VS and grounding cables having these problems also??

This post has been edited by ZenGTMM: Nov 7 2010, 01:09 AM

Normally ppl just put into D.. But if u want to have more pick up from a standstill, use L. If ur car is moving and around 20kmh and above use 2. If ur car speed is somewhere around 50-60kmh and above better use 3, if not engine will tarik kaw kaw..

Yeah u are right, in USA there are 3 main grades, RON 87, 89 and 92. In msia we used to have ron92 and ron97, but thanks to P1 using older engines in Wira, Waja, Saga, Iswara.. We had to upgrade our fuel to ron95 as a minimum. The ron95 minimum is also due to our msian weather being constantly hot (>32degrees), which causes air to be hotter when entering the chamber, thus promoting knocking. Therefore we need higher octane to run smoothly.

Hmm.. Will go claim warranty on my first service.. 700km more to go.. Wanna go test my car again.. Will be going from subang to setapak later at 2pm.. Anybody staying there?

Just checked my ATF dipstick too.. Its still spanking clean. Only 465km mileage lah..

Btw what is the hole located above the circle in red? Is it just the design or memang for filling something up?

I believe TS should edit this into the first post. Too many ppl are asking repeating questions over here. A good first post should include all relevant info so that it would provide help for Persona newbies in these matters.

Yes u can use back the same tires depending on the width of the rims. If ur rims is 6jj it should be perfectly allright to use back the original tires. But if ur rims were 6.5jj then it would be wiser to use 205 width tires to go with it. Anything smaller than 205 would cause the tire wall to lean inwards, offering lesser protection for ur rim lip and also higher chances of tire popping off ur rims if u were cornering at high speed.



Wah even go to that extend to lighten weight ah..

To everyone experiencing high FC...

1)Please state ur tire pressure for front and back tires.
2) What petrol u are using and RON value.

After every refill of petrol, please reset ur FC meter by switching to the FC meter then long pressing the left button till the value turns 0. One of the main reasons some are getting unreal figures is that they dont reset their FC meter after refuelling.

I have recently found out that filling tires to the rated amount of PSI is affecting my FC a lot.. I am in the midst of trial and error-ing now to get the best combination of comfort and FC.. Will update you guys later on after having more conclusive results.

It wont spoilt the engine as engines are designed to work at lower octane ratings. However as the ECU is self learning, it MAY affect ur FC and power output of ur car very slightly only..
Example: ECU ignition timing for Ron95, but u fill Ron97. So slightly advanced combustion causing slight loss in power (1-2hp, 4hp max) due to ron97 resist knock longer and ignition timing can be retarded. Vice versa for Ron97 timing with Ron95 petrol, u may just only lose 1-2hp only..

The IAFM kong problem is mainly for the first batch of Saga BLM and earlier Persona only.. So far PE has very less problem with the IAFM module.

Thats very good mileage. translating to only 6.72-6.9L/100km. Are u still using the original steel rims? Or have u changed to something lighter?

Wah 600-700km using Auto Persona?? Damn, tell ur friends to sent their cars to Proton so that Proton engineers will know how to tune the cars to that level.. Sure can tapau Vios and City.. Toyota and Honda can close kilang ady..

If possible, mind sharing what mods ur friends and u have done to ur persona?

Must drive at middle of the night and when just finished raining and the air is a standstill without any breeze and the aircon and radio msut be turned off.

Oh yea it helps a lot.

Btw u have asked about how to prevent fog on windscreen b4 right? Snapped this product in Ace Hardware.




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AFAIK, it doesnt, as long as u dont rev the engine or to ease on the throttle when engaging from N to D.. Any sifu can enlighten us?