I visited the pup just now at breeder's place. This pup is real cute, very good boy and got bullied by sibblings... Lol...
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@divas: not yet. She just confirmed a booking. She will only take back at 8weeks. What she meant was the pup fell asleep on her lap when she visited the breeder to choose which pup.
I visited the pup just now at breeder's place. This pup is real cute, very good boy and got bullied by sibblings... Lol... |
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Feb 17 2011, 11:29 AM
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Messi 3.1kg @ 9inches tall also not fat. Just heavy...
 Debby's Dorian is Messi's half brother. Same dad different mum.  This post has been edited by yeowa: Feb 17 2011, 11:30 AM |
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Feb 17 2011, 01:01 PM
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Dorian is more cute and smaller than messi at his age. He is super red and is a very good boy. He got bullied by brown brother and a latte female cousin. And guess what, he didn't fight back.
The latte female very cute. Just the nose is pink. This post has been edited by yeowa: Feb 17 2011, 01:05 PM |
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QUOTE(huey80 @ Feb 17 2011, 02:15 PM) latte = cafe au lait? it's supposed to hv liver nose for this colour de.. But dorian might change... Lol... All poodles are naughty... Dorian so tame ah...good lo...i likee....i hate stubborn pigs..  Liver nose is what colour? |
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Feb 17 2011, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Feb 17 2011, 03:17 PM) That's what I'm worried also.... =.="" owner pantang dipuji.... lol...  If I happen to see a piano pet toy, I would buy for him, maybe he later know how to behave and play piano.. LOL.. just kidding |
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Feb 17 2011, 11:17 PM
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ykw_86: cost around 1.5k with mka. I am not sure if poodle is suitable for you since you are looking for cheaper shih tzu or pug. Definitely poodle cost more to maintain. You can pm me if you really interested.
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QUOTE(ykw_86 @ Feb 18 2011, 03:14 PM) Oh you saw my post r haha.. Mate = companion or partner to breed?I just adopted a male poodle. Maybe in future wana find a mate for him. |
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@fx_53_xt: Messi food starts with Iskhan and later changed to Artemis. Iskhan is a bit hard to find, but I think Iskhan control their size better. I changed to Artemis as nobody have actually heard about Iskhan that time. Artemis cost only about RM42 for puppy and you can get 10% if you are members of The Pets Family (Taman Megah, Kepong Village Mall and few more).
On licking and bite, you need to give him a watch. Just monitor him for the next few days(better friday night to sunday full day) closely and say 'NO' when he is biting and licking something. Give him his toy then(suppose to let him play with his toy). When you cannot keep a sight of him, cage him up and do your stuff. Over the 3 days, he will know that biting and licking things other than his toy are wrong. But don't stop after that 3 days ya... Keep on watching him. Ah Bi is still young and can forget easily. He is too young to be roam freely though. On toilet train. After every meal, bring him to the spot you want him to poo and pee. Only let him leave the spot after he is done with his business. Praise him like no tomorrow when he did the right things and give him some treats. If he pee at the wrong spot, it's either you want to scold him by saying 'NO' or give him a pat. Mine the 2nd one... Lol... A friend of mine advice, you should scold him on instance when they pee and poo not 1 minutes later where they do not know why they are scolded (short memory for puppy). Wipe off the pee and spray a repellent on the wrong spot to avoid him going back to the same spot. You may want to use a training aid spray but I find it useless for messi. Repeat the process everyday and sure he will learn. But always give allowance for them to make mistake. Accident happens.On MKA, it takes about 7months from the day I brought him home to receive it. I just got his last month. SO, no worries. Feeding is important to ensure he won't grow into miniature. And you need to teach him from young so he is more obedient. Btw, messi is not allowed to go on my bed, sofa and anything human sits on. This is to train them to let them know despite we love them, they are still dog and to avoid them have the thoughts that they are your master. You can PM me anytime if you need urgent advice. At least I can notice your PM on my blackberry. |
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QUOTE(huey80 @ Feb 21 2011, 01:06 PM) i know u hv ur own way of loving messi...but i sorta 'terasa' with ur sentence there. DOes messi get to come out of his bag inside ur car? ooopsss... sorry sorry... haha.... I said that so they won't get overboard... I learnt this from one of the site. Messi is half body out from the bag only. Still sits in the bag with half body out. Sometimes he sits on my lap though. Sometimes it is hard to control him when driving, he will just ask to come over my lap. I only let him do that in the absence of my gf. Feel miserable though... shhh....Added on February 21, 2011, 2:43 pm QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Feb 21 2011, 01:37 PM) I plan to change to these few brand: each spoon full = teaspoon or tablespoon? Mine at that time should be only quarter milk powder spoon x 2 times only. Started with half spoon. Just feel the tummy, as long as he is not too small (just slightly smaller than the rib) he should be full.Artemis fresh mix small breed RM42 (4star, 28%, 17%, 48%) (4) Acana puppy small breed RM56 (5star, 37%, 19%, 36%)(2) Avoderm puppy RM39 (4star, 29%, 11%, 52%) (1) Orijen Puppy RM65 (5star, 42%, 18%, 32%) (5) Now Puppy RM87 (4star, 28%, 18%, 45%)(1) I have a complete post about my food concern over in the food thread. roam freely simply means i don't lock him in cage. My living room isn't that big anyway and most of the time he stay in my study room on the bed while i'm working. (i don't mind ah bii sleeping on my bed xD) It takes 7 months for the cert to arrive ?  Btw, when you say "feeding is important to ensure he wont grow into miniature", mind to elaborate on that? Currently i am feeding him 3 times a day (8am-2pm-8pm), each time a spoon full mixed with warm water till they soften. I'm also giving him vitamin gel three times a week. This post has been edited by yeowa: Feb 21 2011, 02:43 PM |
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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Feb 21 2011, 02:58 PM) To my surprise, he never pee/poo on the bed. He would pee/poo every time i brought him down to my living room. If he's too urgent, you can see he'll run nervous on the bed. Guess what, even when he sneeze, he would go to the edge of the bed where there's nothing around and sneeze into air. And i never trained him to do all this ! good behaviour... i use the chicken rice plastic spoon, the one chicken rice hawker give you when you tapao chicken rice. One spoon full x3 a day. That's too much i guess? The first time i visited the vet during CNY, the vet told me he was starving  , and i always thought i was underfeeding him since he looks starved all the time.If the spoon is the small one, should be ok I guess. But very hard to tell. How is his poop? One poop per meal? If always got more than one, then he is overfed... |
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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Feb 22 2011, 01:37 AM) yeah, he drinks lesser than when he just came home previously. What i did is i add lots of water with his kibble. For some reason, my ah bii for sure have to drink all the water before he start chewing his kibble You didn't apply for the membership ah? Member can get 10% discount and the amount paid can be converted into points that can be used as a discount to future purchase. I know PLC got Iskhan, just I don't feel like continuing Iskhan. Lol... mine wallop anything he can find. whether its food or not.  Bought Artemis from Pets Family just now for RM42. There was only 2 packs left and that made me worried as someone has mentioned about unstable supplies of Artemis could sometime leads to total shortage. Visited Pets Lover Center later and they have lots of them. They even have Iskhan that you mentioned, Fish4dog and some other rare brand but it was too late as i already bought Artemis. |
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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Feb 22 2011, 09:26 AM) It was midnight when i'm back and therefore ah bii doesn't have the chance to try out his new artemis. I will start changing gradually today but i believe the hungry ghost that lives inside will take this without problem. Hungry ghost? So familiar... Messi also the same... Lol... After doing two full day of research, i narrowed down to this 5 : If your poodle exercise a lot and you want to build its body faster, you probably should be looking at higher protein% such as Orijen instead of Artemis. If you have time, pay a visit to the dog food thread as it helps a lot in making my decision. I did, but the cashier said i can only user the membership card on my next purchase Nvm, next purchase quite worth it also... Can be used for grooming also... I groom messi there. |
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QUOTE(huey80 @ Feb 22 2011, 12:49 PM) One of it being Iskhan... Messi's breeder no longer use Iskhan loo... But I see very obvious changes in him when change from Iskhan to Artemis. Anyway, that was my mistake in not able to measure properly... Lol... Iskhan 3 spoon is artemis 1.5 or 2 spoon. My bad... A small reference here : http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/dogs/...k~1/9441~1.aspx Based on my personal experience or knowledge, the following ingredients r questionable 1. beet pulp : a by-product & potentially cause tear stains in poodles 2. Chitosan : this term reminds me of those slimming products human take to lose weight - dunno if this applies to dogs. Maybe that's y breeders promote this brand to keep their pups in shape. I rber a kibble supplier fren told me that many breeders feed this brand to their pregnant females so that they can produce smaller pups. 3. CHinese herbs : such as?? ginseng? wats the function? 4. menadione vitamin K : controversial ingredient; man-made vit K NO matter wat ppl say abt the goodness of Orijen and it can be fed to poodles which r active (u hv to be very active to work off 40% protein lo...), i have YET to see or know a small-sized or a real TOY size poodle that is on this brand. If u know one adult toy poodle who has been taking Orijen since puppyhood, pls show me so that i'll hv a broader view on Orijen. |
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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Feb 22 2011, 02:04 PM) does that means messi grows faster by feeding artemis? I don't know... Could be my feeding portion not right lor... I am noob and messi is my first furkid. |
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Chris... This sat I cannot make it... I need to drive my gf's parent up from hometown. If 7am I can la... Lol...
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QUOTE(huey80 @ Feb 23 2011, 12:25 PM) LOL..7am, u date me in my dream ok? CHRIS!!! I WANT TO SEE YOUR STANDARD POODLE.... PLEASE GO AT 7AM!!!  but i;ll be bringing my baby standard poodle wo...kaiakiakiakaia  |
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cause it is monsoon season...
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Actual time is set at 9am ma...
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Feb 24 2011, 10:47 AM) Ya, that's what I'm planning, too-bring him into my room, also put his cage inside my room. At first I offer Dorian to stay with Messi. Later, I remember that Messi is going to mix with other dogs on this weekend. Messi will attend Sunday class starting this weekend... Am excited to teach him how to 'STAND'... Oops... hahahhaa....I had already informed my dad that I would want a pet dog last Monday, he was quite against it. He said he only allows me to get a dog outside the house, not inside the house. After this I didn't explain further cos it was a morning, I didn't want to spoil his morning mood. I'm just planning to put the cage inside my room, and would inform my dad i will put Dorian with my aunt's shih tzu mixed doggie at grandma's house after Dorian's 3rd vaccination, and only bring Dorian home every weekends. |
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Feb 24 2011, 11:17 AM) I thought Messi already known how to stand? no? No... he lazy to learn that... |
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