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TSrevolnia
post Aug 26 2010, 04:38 PM, updated 16y ago

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Hi there...
First of all, I’m so sorry if I created an existing topic with same problem but I need some help and explanations regarding my problem from my fellow androiders. I'm having difficulties with my MMS setting. I tried to Google and read the available topic in this forum but it didn’t work for me.
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OS: Android 2.1
Service Provider: CELCOM UOX (Prepaid)
Last week, I subscribed Celcom Weekly Broadband and the subscription ended few days ago. I never had any 3G or MMS setting in my phone. To commence with my problem, I called Celcom Careline last week and they gave me these 2 settings to me. (Situation: 1st day of Celcom Weekly Broadband)
Here's the setting:
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CELCOM 3G SETTING
Name: celcom3g
apn: celcom3g
apn type: default

CELCOM 3G MMS SETTING
name: celcom3g mms
apn: celcom3g
mmsc: http://mms.celcom.net.my
mms proxy: 10.128.1.242
mms port: 8080
apn type: mms
So, in my APN settings, I have 2 settings which:
- Celcom 3G (got green round button)
- Celcom 3G MMS


When I tested it, I can browse the internet and the MMS works well. After the weekly broadband ended, from this thread: [Guide] Manual APN Setting gajahwhite told me that "once you already receive the MMS. You can delete the Celcom 3G APN setting. The other one (Celcom MMS APN setting) no need to delete."


My PROBLEMs are:

1) After I deleted the Celcom 3G APN, the mms won't work. My MMS sending and receiving failed. When I clicked the [download] button in messaging, it says "Currently cannot download ..."
In my APN setting, the Celcom 3G MMS doesn't have the green round button. If I change the APN type to be MMS, (the green round button appeared but still can't retrieve mms)

2) If I changed the APN type to default, my problem was, when I send the mms it seem I have to turn on my mobile network and it cost me money…but it works! I got Facebook widget on my home screen and it appears to update the status by itself and I can browse the Market and Facebook apps even though I didn’t have any Celcom 3G APN in my settings. rclxub.gif

I should not be able to surf Market and Facebook apps right? :blur: Suddenly without sending or receiving MMS, My prepaid credit from RM25 now has become 0.09cent. Sigh...is it because of the apps that are running in the background? (Some of the apps do have the privilege to access the Internet right)? BUT if I turn it off, MMS picture, be it in sending or receive seem not working. How to enable the MMS without “kredit kena telan”? sad.gif




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post Aug 26 2010, 05:28 PM

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To be able to received MMS or sending MMS, you need to create or enable the 3G APN. Otherwise, you can use WiFi to received the MMS. I've try before.

The reason i told u to delete the 3G APN setting because some application may need to synchronize or update the information. So that it need an internet in order to that.

So.. I suggest you to use Wifi if you don't want your credit "kena telan". Maybe your home got streamyx? and if it using the wifi modem, you can connect to it what.. smile.gif
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post Aug 26 2010, 05:39 PM

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Why you delete your APN in the 1st place?

Regarding the credit, unfortunately for you without any data plan, those widgets and background data will suck you dry.

Those stuff ate my officemate RM70 of her credit in less than a day.

My suggestion is, disable those widget and background data and set it to update manually. You then can update them when you are on Wi-Fi.
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post Aug 26 2010, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(gajahwhite @ Aug 26 2010, 05:28 PM)
To be able to received MMS or sending MMS, you need to create or enable the 3G APN. Otherwise, you can use WiFi to received the MMS. I've try before.

The reason i told u to delete the 3G APN setting because some application may need to synchronize or update the information. So that it need an internet in order to that.

So.. I suggest you to use Wifi if you don't want your credit "kena telan". Maybe your home got streamyx? and if it using the wifi modem, you can connect to it what.. smile.gif
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Yeah. I do have streamyX in kL and but now I'm at my hometown. So...no matter how what, I need to enable the 3G APN to received my MMS lar? laugh.gif

p/s: I might be misunderstood with explanation from this website: celcom-apn-setting-for-android-device

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Just create one APN entry under the name of Celcom 3G MMS Setting then enter the required info for 3G MMS as described above. Don’t create 3G internet setting. Hopefully it works.
QUOTE(LEVIATHAN @ Aug 26 2010, 05:39 PM)
Why you delete your APN in the 1st place?

Regarding the credit, unfortunately for you without any data plan, those widgets and background data will suck you dry.

Those stuff ate my officemate RM70 of her credit in less than a day.

My suggestion is, disable those widget and background data and set it to update manually. You then can update them when you are on Wi-Fi.
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I'm misunderstood gajahwhite explanation. I thought that after I received the MMS, I can deleted the 3G APN and I can surely send and receive any MMS without the 3G APN setting. (just using the Celcom 3G MMS APN). doh.gif

Sorry for asking this, how to set the background data to update manually? It is in the Setting --> Account & Sync ---> Background data?

So by untick it, those widget and background data will not suck my credit right? Or do I need to delete all those widget at my homescreen and open all apps setting that can turn off the auto-update?


p/s: I might be misunderstood with explanation from this website: celcom-apn-setting-for-android-device

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Just create one APN entry under the name of Celcom 3G MMS Setting then enter the required info for 3G MMS as described above. Don’t create 3G internet setting. Hopefully it works.
This post has been edited by revolnia: Aug 26 2010, 06:16 PM
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post Aug 26 2010, 06:12 PM

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Yes basically that's how you off those background data. You can go a step further by using APNdroid: http://goo.gl/uKQj

The app is famous for disabling you APN (without deleting it). It's a ON/OFF switch of some sort.
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post Aug 26 2010, 06:15 PM

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So how's about the explanation from the website that I posted a few seconds ago? Is it him wrong or I'm the one AGAIN misunderstood the how-the-MMS-works-with-APN?
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post Aug 26 2010, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(revolnia @ Aug 26 2010, 06:15 PM)
So how's about the explanation from the website that I posted a few seconds ago? Is it him wrong or I'm the one AGAIN misunderstood the how-the-MMS-works-with-APN?
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I've summoned the blog owner to this thread. wink.gif
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post Aug 26 2010, 08:45 PM

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I just finished my buka puasa when i heard my name being summoned by master cleave tongue.gif

About the APN guide I posted in my blog, from my understanding it divides the data flow for internet & MMS. So if you were to enable MMS settings only, it should (theoretically) stop the unnecessary data which sucks the credit in your device.

I'm not an expert in this field, anyway as a recommendation I suggest u to enable 3G MMS setting or 2G MMS setting only & use Handcent to retrieve the MMS. If still the same, we'll figure out other way to combat this prob. smile.gif




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post Aug 26 2010, 09:41 PM

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By leaving the MMS setting only should work...
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post Aug 26 2010, 10:05 PM

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thanks master cleave tongue.gif

@mfadzil
I tried to use only 2G MMS setting & use Handcent to send or retrieve the MMS but it didn't work. I need to enable the 3G APN to make it work.

@MyWifeCar
No luck for me.

So...the conclusion to send or retrieve MMS, is it necessary to have the 3G APN or not?

Based on gajahwhite and LEVIATHAN explanation, we do need the 3G APN.
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post Aug 26 2010, 10:14 PM

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Actually you can enable or disable the mobile data, by turning it on and off.

My sense UI got this button on home screen to do so for me....
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post Aug 26 2010, 10:18 PM

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is it the mobile data equals to the background data like LEVIATHAN explained above?
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post Aug 26 2010, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(revolnia @ Aug 26 2010, 10:18 PM)
is it the mobile data equals to the background data like LEVIATHAN explained above?
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Almost.
...But the APNdroid is cooler .... rclxms.gif
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post Aug 26 2010, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Aug 26 2010, 10:24 PM)
Almost.
...But the APNdroid is cooler ....  rclxms.gif
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Do u use prepaid or postpaid? I think your handphone got 3G APN lar brows.gif
Or you just have the mms setting only? (without 3G APN)
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Hehehe... Data is free for me. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 26 2010, 10:46 PM

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...sigh! No problem lar for you. Hehe tongue.gif ...
I'm gonna wait for mfadzil to post now. I'm still confuse lol
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post Aug 26 2010, 11:42 PM

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Ok bro just now I've tested below MMS settings on my sister's HTC Wildfire (unrooted). She's on postpaid but w/out unlimited data plan, and having problem to send/retrieve MMS also.

Name : Celcom 2G MMS
APN : mms.celcom.net.my
MMSC : http://mms.celcom.net.my
MMS proxy : 10.128.1.242
MMS port : 8080
MCC : 502
MNC : 13
APN type : mms

**pls take note the MNC # is 13, not 19. I tested using 19 but somehow the settings cannot be saved.

And the result? It successfully send and retrieve MMS.
Tested 2 times send/receive MMS to my Nexus One no problem so far.

Maybe u can give it a try. Btw which phone u use bro?
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post Aug 26 2010, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(mfadzil @ Aug 26 2010, 11:42 PM)
Ok bro just now I've tested below MMS settings on my sister's HTC Wildfire (unrooted). She's on postpaid but w/out unlimited data plan, and having problem to send/retrieve MMS also.

Name : Celcom 2G MMS
APN : mms.celcom.net.my
MMSC : http://mms.celcom.net.my
MMS proxy : 10.128.1.242
MMS port : 8080
MCC : 502
MNC : 13
APN type : mms

**pls take note the MNC # is 13, not 19. I tested using 19 but somehow the settings cannot be saved.

And the result? It successfully send and retrieve MMS.
Tested 2 times send/receive MMS to my Nexus One no problem so far.

Maybe u can give it a try. Btw which phone u use bro?
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Does she have the 3G APN enabled in her phone setting?
I'm using the old android generation G1 a.k.a HTC Dream blush.gif

Without unlimited data plan means that, if she browsed the internet, the data charges (10cent/10kb) will be on her bill right?

This post has been edited by revolnia: Aug 26 2010, 11:56 PM
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post Aug 27 2010, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(revolnia @ Aug 26 2010, 10:05 PM)
So...the conclusion to send or retrieve MMS, is it necessary to have the 3G APN or not?

Based on gajahwhite and LEVIATHAN explanation, we do need the 3G APN.
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Basically, we need 3G APN settings in order to received/send MMS.

Well, you can do so by using Wifi. Make sure u have the MMS APN setting (3G APN setting no need).
Connect to Wifi connection, then go to your Inbox and download the MMS.
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post Aug 27 2010, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(revolnia @ Aug 26 2010, 11:56 PM)
Does she have the 3G APN enabled in her phone setting?
I'm using the old android generation G1 a.k.a HTC Dream blush.gif

Without unlimited data plan means that, if she browsed the internet, the data charges (10cent/10kb) will be on her bill right?
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Nope, I just create the settings for 2G MMS only.

Yup bro, you got it right. It is pay-per-download, which will cost her a bomb and she'll get fainted when the monthly bill arrive tongue.gif

So to avoid this, 3g APN must NOT be set.

This post has been edited by mfadzil: Aug 27 2010, 12:10 AM

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