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Interesting. I was mountain biking with a friend today who works for EA. He was telling me that Battlefield 3 is one of the products that his team is handling. I told him he needs to buy some bulldozers.

I'm sitting in on a press briefing for AMD Bulldozer right now, and while everything is embargoed, I will say this: If you're building a gaming PC, this is going to be the way to go.

on the low / mid range, ya.....but on high end.....

in gaming wise, the way i see it, i7 2500 to to 4.0 will wipe clean the AMD line up.

waiting for the review from the xpert.is it worth to choose amd fx over i5 2400.

Got to play with a review sample. Not mine. I'm not NDAed.

The figures above posed by w00key do seem legit, but they're worst cases. In most games, BD trades places with a 2500K, in my own Fallout New Vegas testing, it beat my Phenom II X4 (3.7 GHz) by around 20%. The 2500K beats my Phenom II by the same 20%.

It's hilariously overclockable. Jury-rigging the biggest heatsink I could find, a ~7 year old Coolermaster Hyper6+ (which doesn't fit AM2/3) hacked into a pretty cheap Gigabyte GA990XA-UD3, I got 4.85 GHz out of it. At that kind of clock, the 2500K was looking for its parents with tears in its eyes, losing out on single threaded benchmarks by 10% and multithreads.... well, it wasn't really funny anymore. I'll share with you this:

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* I'd like to have overclocked the 2500K more, but I was limited to a pretty shitty motherboard which looked to be an Asus but had no identifying marks and Intel's stock cooler.
** x264 June 2011 used. VirtualDub passing through AVISynth to the CLI x264 binary. VD was using a MoComp deinterlace filter which scales linearly to, according to the author, at least 24 cores.

It's competitive. For some workloads, you're going to want Intel. For others, AMD at last can out-perform Intel. I didn't have a 2600K to test, but if I had, I'd imagine BD would have beat it.

Of course these are all overclocked figures. Blame contractual loopholes.

Edit: Oh yeah, not allowed to say which model BD I was playing with. Also, to address the below, I couldn't boot the 2500K box with a multiplier any higher than 38. Even with scary voltages. I blame the Hybrid-EFI BIOS or some quirk of the board.

and i thought the price for 8120 is the same or a bit less than 2500k..
but i thought wrong.. 

I believe the price will be slashed soon.
With this kind of performance, the price will drop soon... very soon.

I'm a sucker for cores. Might upgrade to 8xxx series once my Q6600 dies, if it is less than 180usd.

Guess AMD are back to the low and mid-end then(not that they ever moved from that position)...with them taunting that their BD is unlocked compared to Intel line.

I was expecting this video to come out.
I think AMD can still turn out to be great someday if they get their priorities right and management in order. Not necessarily R&D is the only problem that is causing AMD's downfall but also the management seems lacking. At first the BOD fired Dirk Meyer publicly about not having a mobile strategy and most probably about BD as well. Then Rick Bergman fired as well by Rory Reed for not being progressive enough which I think is what escalated the problem even further. Had AMD not created comics, taunting gifts and some publicly leaked slides, I don't think it would be that bad of a shock to many.

I do really hope that Rory Reed can really turn AMD to gold like he did with Lenovo because it really needs a proper management and better management of R&D funds to somehow make a better product. It is kind of sad to see that AMD is doing a disservice to themselves by releasing a product that is underwhelmed by its previous. I don't think it would be that bad if it did looked better than Phenom II X6 at the very least. Anand has sum it up pretty well and we're already partially affected by monopoly and it is just going to get worse if AMD doesn't get any better.

so AMD Bulldozer FX-8150 better or Intel Sandy Bridge i7-2600K better now? Quite confuse now!

Maybe for Battlefield 3 the FX-8150 performs well, but for the majority of the games the Intel Sandy Bridge processors are still much faster. But still for the i7 2600K to lose 5FPS when overclocked to 4.8GHz compared to stock speed, it doesn't seem right .

Look at the market segmentation, it is all screwed up (Zacate killed K125/K325/K625. Llano killed Zacate and Radeon GPU in notebook market).

MSI is pleased to announce that OC Genie II on the upcoming MSI AMD 9-series mainboards will support world’s most advanced automatic overclocking. With just the a single push of a button OC Genie II not only increases your processor and memory speeds, it also unlocks up to 8 CPU cores. This makes OC Genie II the simplest option to increase your performance on a MSI AMD 9-series mainboard up to 250%. MSI’s upcoming AMD 9-series mainboards are built to the highest quality standards: MIL-STD-810G certified Military Class II Components. Military Class II components give you the best efficiency and highest performance on the upcoming AMD 9-series mainboards.

MSI’s 25 years of knowledge in mainboards and over clocking has delivered some remarkable results. With  the world’s first overclockable mainboard, which was a 80286, to the simplest ease for end-users to upgrade their PC performance up to 250% with a simple push of a button.

OC Genie II performs these tasks with a single push of the button:

- Unlock hidden CPU cores
- Adjust CPU clocks (up to 8)
- Adjust CPU multiplier
- Adjust CPU voltage
- Adjust memory speed
- Adjust memory voltage.

more like destroy FX-8150 sales with a single push of the button

But we got to admit that many will choose intel when they are building a new rig withn end of this year
but of course there are people who lacks of knowledge buy bulldozer procs just because its brand news+amazing discount given by seller
so all we have to do is pray that its enough to make they operational smoothly for another development

Actually, the benching we've done in-house did show some very bad scenarios in games, but generally the performance was right where it should be for the price.

The power consumption however, is a different story. it's not uncommon to at 50W or 100W extra for the use of an Asus board versus that of an other brand.

Graphics performance with an AMD graphics card is better than the same card on an Intel board and a BD can actually provide beter results in games/benchmarks than a i7-2600K. it just seems AMD didn't think this launch out quite as well.

The poster claims to be MSI representative? All hardware representative at Overclock.net have this logo beside their avatars...



A good example: JF-AMD. The poster in your link does not have that... 

2 possibilities,
A paid job or AMD processors are Passmark-optimized.

Look at the scores of Llano, especially the mobile Llano.
We know it has the performance of "Athlon". It's about the performance of Nahalem i5.
But the passmark scores show it is running as fast as SB i5.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php