Source : CPU World.com
Reviving Athlon II and Sempron
Biostar just updated their FM1 CPU support, and we found some "old school" processors,
- Athlon II x4 631X (2.6GHz, 100W TDP, 4MB L2, no turbo-boost)
- Athlon II x4 641X (2.8GHz, 100W TDP, 4MB L2, no turbo-boost)
- Athlon II x2 221X (2.8GHz, 65W TDP, 1MB L2, no turbo-boost)
- Sempron 198X (2.5GHz, 65W TDP, 1MB L2, no turbo-boost)

All comes without GPU.
Release date is not mentioned.


8 cores Bulldozer has 315mm2 of die size, slightly smaller than Phenom II x6, but bigger than i7 980x.

Sos : cpu world.com
AMD Launches A4 APUs
A4-3300 and A4-3400 are launched. Available on certain USA/Canada online shops.
A4-3300 - 2.5GHz, no turbo boost, DDR3-1600MHz, HD6410D (160 shader procs + 443MHz), ~RM220 (Bulk).
A4-3400 - 2.7GHz, no turbo boost, DDR3-1600MHz, HD6410D (160 shader procs + 600MHz), ~RM240 (Box).

http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/rank2011d/top_...e9cfbc81b1&l=en

Seems like the Bulldozer architecture is promising.
Owns Xeon on such low clock.

For me, no.
Athlon II x4 is still more than enough for me.
Handle games without problem on max settings.
Running multiple VMs without lagging.

Be patient for the AM3+ mobo to come.
Most of them are still not in market.

If Bulldozer managed to get single threaded performance of i5-2500, then it should not be a problem buying it.

Normal for OC-ing.
Doing so is to eliminate possible weaker cores to limit overclocking.

Sos : http://news.mydrivers.com/1/204/204366.htm

Bulldozer Official Benchmark Result :
Handbrake :
Bulldozer : 223FPS | i5 2500 : 188FPS
Dirt 3 (Eyefinity) :
Bulldozer 82.8FPS | i7 980X 80.9FPS


This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Sep 15 2011, 11:01 PM

I still with popcorn and wait for the benchmark of market units.

According to AMD, to get the actual performance of Bulldozer, you need latest chip, latest cpu microcode, latest bios, latest optimization of OS, latest driver, latest programs, people with correct understanding and testing.

P/S : Driver? Something weird in processor.

Weird result.

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Sep 17 2011, 09:33 PM

Meh.
If the performance is so poor, why don't AMD just make Phenom II x8?
Or just make Phenom II x4 in 32nm, should be able to boost up a lot of clock speed without compromising TDP.
Cost effective on R&D.

My point is not there.
But instead, if current K10 architecture is better than Bulldozer, why don't they just make it into 32nm and release to market?
That will be more competing.

Yes, for certain mobo.

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Sep 19 2011, 01:49 PM

Source : Mydrivers.com

The party of AMD Fusion APU is started with two big series, Brazos and Llano. The next generation APU is in preparation, but the launch date may different from old news. The launching of high performance 32nm-based Trinity hopefully will be pulled to early of 2012, while the low power 23nm-based Wichita may delayed to end of 2012.
AMD CFO, Thomas Seifert, announced the successor of Llano APU, codenamed Trinity, will be launched in early of 2012.
Originally, Trinity APU was planned to be launch in Q2 2012. The worse case is June, in the Taipei Computex 2012. But seeing it may come in Q2 2012, it may shown in CES 2011. On that time, the time between launching of Llano APU and Trinity is only half year.
Since Intel is pushing the Ultrabook, AMD also prepared counterparts, that is low power version of Trinity APU. Lowest TDP of it can be 17W.
When Trinity APU is launched, the counterpart of Ultrabook is also ready. The IGP performance is far more superior compared to Intel IGP.
For the low power Wichita APU, AMD was originally planned to launch it in 2012, but the date is not confirmed.
In fact, there are rumors said that Brazos platform will be sold until Q4 2012, this said Wichita won't be launched early.
It may caused by the 28nm lithography. Rumors say AMD is still finding, either TSMC or GlobalFoundries, which company is better in manufacturing the chip.
Both 2 companies will only start volume production of 28nm chips in next year.

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Sep 20 2011, 04:55 PM

Sos : Fudzilla
A8-3820, A6-3620 and A4-3420
AMD plans to do a little refresh of its desktop A-series Llano APUs that will include three new APUs, the A8-3820, A6-3620 and the A4-3420. As you could have guessed from the names, we are talking about two quads and one dual-core APU that will replaced the A8-3800, A6-3600 and the A4-3400.

The new APUs are pretty much the same as the ones that they are meant to replace but with a slightly higher clock. The A8-3820 will be clocked at 2.5GHz with a 2.8GHz Turbo and will have the same HD 6550D GPU part. The A6-3620 ticks at 2.2GHz with a 2.5GHz Turbo and has the same HD 6530D GPU part, while the A4-3420 works at 2.8GHz and has the same HD 6530D GPU part. All three new parts have the 65W TDP, same as their predecessors.

The A8-3800, A6-3600 and the A4-3400 will coexist with the new ones until the end of Q2 2012. After Q2 2012, AMD won't be having any more orders for these. Of course, we expect the mentioned trio to have a slight price drop as soon as the refresh shows up in the market.

It is also important to know that Q1 2012 is the launch timeframe of the A6-3670K, while the A8-3870K is scheduled to ship in Q4 2011.

(10.37 / 7.27) x 100% = 42.6%. It is 142.6%.
But the value is based on i7 2600K already.
Since you said xx is faster than i5 2500K, the value should be based on i5 2500K, right?

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Sep 26 2011, 12:32 AM

That's only for Llano. The Llano yield is just around 5-15%.
That's why Llano is priced so expensive and the existence of Athlon II x4 631.

Bulldozer? Well, nobody knows.

As long as the price remains acceptable, and able to cover the R&D cost, no suicide will be done.

http://www.chiphell.com/thread-272826-1-1.html
Microcenter said, Bulldozer already reached the retail store.
The first launch will include FX-6100, FX-8120 and FX-8150.
AMD will provide the official BIOS for current motherboards in market.

Microcenter also mentioned, the will be the first revenge from AMD, for last 5 years.

The new bios from AMD will improve the Bulldozer by a lot?
It is supposed to let manufacturer to write the bios for their motherboard, but now, by AMD?

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Oct 2 2011, 09:18 AM

If the real performance is so, it is not sucks.
FX-4150 will gives better gaming performance compared to i3 2100, considered a win already.

When the price is reasonable, everything will be fine.
No people will complain but instead, start recommending it.

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Oct 7 2011, 03:36 PM

Seems like previous testing is not valid again.
New bios does improve Bulldozer's performance.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...s-!/page152

I think the main reason behind is, AMD uses server architecture for desktop processors.
If you observe close enough, Bulldozer based server processors are very strong in server field.
This made Bulldozer only fast in multithreaded purpose.

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Oct 15 2011, 06:25 AM

Frankly, AMD seriously, have to change their strategy.
They always revise server architecture to desktop.
Their server processors are very powerful, but when comes to desktop, they will fail as desktop is more on single threaded performance.