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post Jun 2 2011, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Jun 2 2011, 10:02 AM)
quite frankly if it isnt Intel do not come out the i3-2120k that priced at half of 2500K(@ Jan 2011) I would have get 2120k instead of 2500k. (Since I will be ending up using Ivy bridge, 2500K is pretty much my "temporary" CPU)

You mentioned about single core performance, but there is a huge difference between a single core and a dual core on everyday task(window environment) because you went from single to multitask, but the performance between dual and quads diminished smaller. and there are quite a number of softwares, (for me personally) only make use of dual cores and they have no plans of getting quad cores support because of the complexity involves in recoding/scheduling assignment for 4 cores. Thats the suck part unfortunately doh.gif
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Prepare some money to get a new mobo too.
Some mobo are unable to support it, up to manufacturer.
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post Jun 2 2011, 07:48 PM

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Asus F1A75 | Asus F1A75-M
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Asus F1A75-I Deluxe | non-Deluxe
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MSI A75A-G35 | MSI A75MA-G55
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MSI 990FXA-GD65 | MSI 970A-G45
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Added on June 2, 2011, 7:54 pmMSI 990FXA-GD80
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post Jun 7 2011, 07:18 PM

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Finally, some official words from AMD. biggrin.gif
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Err..... The noisy stock cooler again?
Hope AMD can give some better coolers like the one in Athlon X2 era. smile.gif
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You can tune the clock for every core. brows.gif

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post Jun 7 2011, 07:46 PM

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Yeah, it is a tin container, Lol.
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Dirt 3 on Bulldozer. biggrin.gif


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post Jun 8 2011, 09:50 PM

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post Jun 9 2011, 12:42 AM

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The performance improvement is decent. smile.gif
Without L3 cache, it is still able to perform on par with Phenom II. smile.gif
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Wait..? Lose Phenom II x6 1055T? doh.gif
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post Jun 9 2011, 11:27 PM

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Yep.
26s for single threaded in SuperPI. brows.gif
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Looks like the sample got some problems. biggrin.gif
Unstable and Performance does not proportional to clock.

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post Jun 9 2011, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Jun 9 2011, 11:35 PM)
After looking at so many 'leaked' benchmarks I would usually take it with a grain of salt, especially with Cinebench. I lost count already how many I saw a Photoshopped version.
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The TS got real engineering sample. He got photo on that. smile.gif
Anyway, his unit apparently, got some problems. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 10 2011, 10:16 AM

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Okay, the next gen APU, Trinity will got HD6770 core integrated. brows.gif.
But I think the RAM will become bottleneck. sad.gif

For APU users, time to get performance RAM and OC it to get better IGP performance. icon_idea.gif

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post Jun 10 2011, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(taxidoor @ Jun 10 2011, 10:28 AM)
Have the same feeling cause share system ram right?
Btw 8core series with built in graphic?
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No. smile.gif
FT1(APU) - 2/4 cores+IGP
AM3+ - 4/6/8 bulldozer cores. IGP from chipset.

Trinity (Next Gen APU) - 2/4 bulldozer cores+IGP
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post Jun 11 2011, 05:17 PM

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According to the pic
2.80GHz BD lose to 2.80GHz i7
This is dissapointing

I already said, there are some bugs with the tested sample.
When OC-ed to 3.2GHz, it shows performance decrement. LOL. laugh.gif
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But the announced stock speed should be 3.60GHz
Wanna ask
If the speed is 3.60GHz means all 8 cores run at 3.60GHz?

Did you notice, engineering sample? laugh.gif
Yes, all cores will run at same clock.
If you enabled C-state, cores may run at different frequency, depending on workload on that particular core.

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So that means the APU'S GPU will share the memory of the normal RAM?

Yep.

Some super impressive result has came. Broke the IGP record. brows.gif
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Bye-bye to neeb Intel IGP. biggrin.gif
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Result Page.
Are you sold?

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Updated model list.

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post Jun 12 2011, 04:39 PM

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AES Benchmark.
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i7 2600K @ 3.9GHz. brows.gif
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i5 2500K
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post Jun 12 2011, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(^KamilskaZ^ @ Jun 12 2011, 05:37 PM)
woah...bd vcore already at 1.4v
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The sample was getting BSOD frequently. sad.gif
The tester had to jack up the voltage.
Oh yea, forgot to mention, the i7 used in AES benchmark result that I posted just now was OC-ed to 3.9GHz. smile.gif

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post Jun 12 2011, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(middels8088 @ Jun 12 2011, 08:25 PM)
To be exact, the 2600K have a max TDP of 95W while the Bulldozer core have a max TDP of 186W...
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AMD and Intel got different measurement for TDP.

Failed statement.

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post Jun 13 2011, 02:44 PM

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Also I do question the CPUZ also (version 1.57.1 does not mention Bulldozer support: CPUZ Version history). Also note the "Max TDP" in the CPUZ window (possible fake).

Take a look on your link, there is no 1.57.1, but 1.57 instead.
And also, CPU-Z 1.57 got the Max TDP window already.
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Anyway, I wonder where they get 1.57.1 rolleyes.gif

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post Jun 13 2011, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Jun 13 2011, 08:35 PM)
All. OS then game engine then programming language to support the multi-threading/core.
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If the game engine already supports multi core, then the compiled code will support multithread automatically.
You will deal with the game engine code instead if you decided to go with it.
The game engine will compile it's language. It has all of the facilities for you already. It is like a framework.
Indeed, if you decided to code the game by yourself without any game engine, and you want it to get multithread support, then you have to think yourself on how to managing the task for each core and add dynamic support for threads, even arbitrary number of threads.

Not attacking your post, but just to boost some facts into it.

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post Jun 14 2011, 01:48 PM

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http://www.inpai.com.cn/doc/hard/151251.htm
Bulldozer Turbo Boost allows 1GHz clock speed boost at maximum.

Llano is slightly faster to Athlon II, clock-to-clock comparison.
But still far slower than Phenom II with L3 cache.
Disappointing. wink.gif
To AMD : The game is not changed. laugh.gif

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post Jun 14 2011, 04:26 PM

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I reckon the A4 series notebook will be priced at around RM1.5k already.
A8 with dual graphic 1 will be priced at RM2.5k. smile.gif

The mobile APU is very good. But the desktop 1 is rather weak.

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