i doubt those management student knows how the company's management is lo...apart from theory...

I heard from my friend working at DiGi is hectic, but environment is fun lar.

True...they say tht certs are just keys. I've seen people with first class honor doing nuthing for years. Ive even have a first class honor trainee who knows nothing about what a reception do.

Management is learnt, not studied. I am too young to say this, but I dare to challenge people who thinks Im speaking of nonsense. But how many does theory teaches you? When you are studying, and when you go out to work, how much of theory teachings and learning is applied? Unless the theory is based on transparent things, like programming, or science? Programming is on computer language. It does not change once its set. My friend told me before, its easy to hack, cuz everything about computer is based on a dead language. It does not alter, it does not evolve, it does not change.

As to what management is, its built, its created. Different people have different ways of managing something or even management skill. You can have a simple SOP, but how many of you actually follows 100%?

u dint say u willing to learn?

It somehow boils down to the willingness to learn on the fly la. Like what you said, some 1st class holders are useless when it comes to certain fields. no point having a 1st class Honors when you can't do practical work in your job.

OT -- I missed it by a meager 2 marks though. Quite sad

but old ppl out there doesnt understand

i told them...they said...how much time do we have? we dont provide training...either u go work other company and gain exp first...yes, some f**king arrogant consultancy firm...

Still working la...but if its a place tht gives empty promises, what do u think if u wanna stay there after getting 1 year exp?

Hectic is not an obstacle for me. When its a determination to work to improve oneself, it beats everything. Experience is not gained only from seniors, but everything around you. Its like, you see shit, and you think of ways to not make another shit. Edison made 300 failed light bulbs, and one successful one. But its the steps he took thats the experience to not remake another same mistake.

college only give you 20-30% of your knowledge
but 70% is on yourself
when you're studying in the coll,did you take extra efforts to learn things that they dont teach you in the coll?
or are you actually the material to study on that field?
mostly students nowadays just go on the trend without realizing what they;re capable of

yeah..u're right...
esp those dun have working experience...
as in nvr intern b4 wan XD

a friend of mine is an operator, he said environment is good. even the chair also the expensive stuff. got place for u to relax but the working hours is very messy. let say ur shift end now, 8 hours later u need to work again no matter u got OT or not.

Hahaha....I flared quite well in Marketing field because marketing may be from theory, but it evolves. Maslow's theory also, not 100% true. Its based on general and surveys. But, if its like out of 10 million people and 10 million people agrees and follows the exact steps, then its a theory that cannot be broken. If it cannot be broken, why people say think out of the box? Marketing evolves from time to time. because it is based on people's needs, wants, demands. The only thing that is eternal in this era is, everlasting richness.

then i dun think they wan a fresh ppl, sometimes it is annoying when they say fresh grad can apply when it comes to interview they say we got no time for u la, u need exp la bla bla bla

frankly, i dont think intern give u much exp though...
eg: my case, sit here do something not related...no interaction at all

my management fren, in another company, doing filing only...

did the thought of they're testing you come across your mind?

yes lo...i have to try other company first...not sure yet...
some less arrogant company

I can tell you honestly, customer can ask me to write a bunch of SOP documentation, but it is not surprising that if a server is down due to poor maintanability by the customer themselves.

I say it once and only once.

People can talk big and boast how good they are, but what is so disappointing is, in real life, there isn't actually such people. Sometimes, what's even more disappointing is when I need to do some troubleshooting, and I already know what causes it. But when I tried to explain to the person-in-charge, they act like they don't know anything and want me to fix their problem instead. It's like I don't own the PC, and yet they want me to troubleshoot up to their portion, this is pure BS man! What do they want me to do? Hack their server, get their username and password, access it and fix the problem for them?

This post has been edited by geekster129: Aug 25 2010, 05:35 PM

College actually teaches 5-10%. The rest of the 20% I believe, are based on experience from lecturers teaching you. How many times do you actually realize, that questions from your exams are based only...ONLY on books? If a question comes out from how you apply your own skill to tackle the problem, how many will know how to do it, from not looking by the books theory? Its after all, a guideline.

Hehe....same with my place..they said RM700 for the chair...heck, my RM200 ikea chair even more comfy than that. Working environment solely depends on individuals. Most of them, are affected by daily cultures, like your colleagues, your freedom to move around and so on. Stress is everywhere. Even at home. But, if your colleagues are the type that helps you by teaching you how to handle this problem and that, or even just casual socializing everyday without any discrepancies, that's a work life everyone wishes to have. But what makes things different in the working environment is the people. Nature of the industry is only like a fragment of the influence.

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Added on August 25, 2010, 5:32 pmexactly. It takes experience and how you are able to think how to solve it immediately that pushes the envelope. If you stick by theory alone, its good. But, if you always find a better solution aside from the theory and it proves to be better, it shows that you work not just to work, but you work to improve yourself and the company better.

This post has been edited by [F]atalit[Y]: Aug 25 2010, 05:32 PM

management for me is for those who knows the selok belok of ur work well (technical stuff) than oni they qualify to manage ur junior/ department. tat is my department punya case la but everything can learn 1. anyway good luck ya & all the best to u ~~

whats the point of doing the exam while you can actually memorized all the answer in your head
how is that practically useful in the real industry?
college teaches stuff thats outdated,im sorry to say this but alot of lecturers nowadays i see is just fresh grad or they have less working experience

in my case, i did event, so it's ok la...but something deeper like organizing events, very rare...
just calling colleges to confirm events...

got once, the manager asked me to do something not related, i complain..
she black-listed me >.< zzzzzzzzzz