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 Nokia N8 V3, Coming Soon!!!

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andrekua
post Sep 4 2010, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Sep 4 2010, 04:26 PM)
i hear ya bro .. at that amount i buy it yesterday! altho.. half fruit price also getting interesting.. n the only 1 ting i hate about this buah busuk is the price..

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NOOBKIA N8 RM1,700 + 24 months Digi/Maxis 50 =RM 3,900
APE'PLE IPON4 16GB RM1,099 + 24 months IDigi 138 = RM4,411

Expensive? For extra RM500, get Internet for 2 years and being a superior phone except the camera perhaps...

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post Sep 4 2010, 06:01 PM

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Normal call plan nia...
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post Sep 4 2010, 06:13 PM

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I tot Malaysians in general a very kiasu and only loves free wifi in their house and in OLDTOWN/Starbucks.


Added on September 4, 2010, 6:15 pmCome to think of it,

Legend RM999 + 24months Smart Plan 68 + 24months RM10 call charges = <3k

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 4 2010, 10:40 PM)
I also same like u.. office, home all got wifi... 

but when u are outside think of wanna access something.. or wanna share something..  that is the time u need it a lot...
wu.. back to N8..  I agree if they can keep the cost low by putting less accessories on it....  even the HDMI adaptor they can keep it...  and offer a small price bundle to sell it if anybody want....
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Works differently...

I used to wifi a lot as well till I get fedup with it... I left the streamyx line for my siblings and my torrent suxor machine while i get to enjoy the line entirely to myself...

Just unfortunate that Digi 3G does not have the best signal in my house... its working great outside...
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 4 2010, 10:50 PM)
haha.. some time my homeline down I do use my phone tether..  in 3G cover.. but most of the time I stay on EDGE.. not much diff in speed....

go wherever outstation also can tether..  but some place only gprs..  really sweat.gif
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EDGE same speed?
I was in Midvalley, EDGE full bar website dun want to load... walk a bit to the center court and get 1 bar but website load rite away...
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post Sep 4 2010, 11:59 PM

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Im paying RM88 for 384kbps... LOL, few years ago. Package never changed till today therefore TM silently upgrade me from 384>512>1024>1524>2048.

Speaking about broadband for office, if line under company name, must register for business line therefore minimum charge is RM149. Feeling nothing to lose, sign up 2 years and get a free Atom PC... better than nothing...
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 5 2010, 04:09 AM)
Alot of people never experience before Nokia n900. If you spoke to members like Eiraku , Andy they can tell how capable it is.
N900 is not a goodlike phone its just running on linux so u have freedom to do just with anything u want.

with the virtual ram it makes life much more easier.

Even N8 wont able to replace N900 browser due to the phone screen resolution.
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Godlike resolution is gonna be annoying on small screen anyway... and you have to 'arouse the nipple' to get it zoom in to read the text, LOL... and not to mention the same godlike problem in all Nokia browser, you have to scroll left right up and down to read through an article. Poor work from Nokia or Mozilla...

If they were at least paying attention to user need, webkit browser also can do the job.

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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Sep 5 2010, 08:43 AM)
Lucky this is N8 thread or else you'll be flamed more than 100times tongue.gif
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Those that replied to my earlier post all gone MIA...

And then they pop up where? N900 forum... like that Andy, showed up in N900 liao...
Hahahahaha...
Funny thing is he talk about knowing pc so much and yet cant diffenciate ROM, RAM and STORAGE...
Haiiihhh... Malaysian getting KIASU'CISM ??


Added on September 5, 2010, 12:47 pm
QUOTE(zoolf @ Sep 5 2010, 10:13 AM)
I found this to be very interesting rclxms.gif  Don cha guys think?
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post Sep 5 2010, 03:22 PM

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N8 is good. The problem with Nokia is not hardware, but software. They tend to dump good software.
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post Sep 5 2010, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 5 2010, 04:48 PM)
Yo.. Guowei selling his 3gs....

Andre....  Don't judge it wihtout handling it...  Later ppl flame u...  laugh.gif  ....  Oh..  Forgot u r ranger too.. Faat fast write review...
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post Sep 5 2010, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 5 2010, 07:53 PM)
For those that confuse with ram here some explaination.

There are total 5 type of memory
1) Sd Memory
2) Nand Memory
3) ROM Memory
4) Internal memory (eMMC)
5) External Memory Card
Nokia N900
It not only has 256 MB of operating memory (SDRAM) but also 768 MB of NAND-based virtual memory (swap), making it 1 Gigabyte in total.

Older symbian phones
Lack of NAND memory thats why you keep getting low memory issue

Nokia N8
NAND Memory 512MB
SDRAM Memory 256MB

Nokia N8 isnt that bad either for 512MB ram so practically low ram issue will appear less compare to previous symbian models.

Nokia N900
Roofts Memory 2GB
NAND Memory 768MB
SDRAM Memory 256MB

That what makes N900 a multitasker due to the ram.

Nokia N97
NAND Memory 256MB
SDRAM Memory 128 MB
Symbian phones use Flash memory as their principal store of system code and user data. Flash memory is a silicon-based non-volatile storage medium that can be programmed and erased electronically. Flash memory comes in two major types: NOR and NAND. The names refer to their fundamental silicon gate design. Symbian OS phones make best use of both types of Flash through the selection of file systems The built-in system code and applications appear to Symbian software as one large read-only drive, known as the Z: drive. The Z: drive is sometimes known as the ROM image. User data and installed applications reside on the internal, writable C: drive. A typical Symbian phone today will use between 32 and 64 MB of Flash for the code and user data – this is the total ROM budget. Symbian uses many techniques to minimize the code and data sizes within a phone, such as THUMB instruction set, prelinked XIP images, compressed executables, compressed data formats and coding standards that emphasize minimal code size.
NOR Flash

NAND Flash is treated as a block-based disk, rather than randomly addressable memory. Unlike NOR, it does not have any address lines, so cannot appear in the memory map. This means that code cannot execute directly from NAND and it has to be copied into RAM first. This results in the need for extra RAM in a NAND phone compared to a similar NOR device. NAND Flash writes are about 10 times faster than those on NOR Flash. A phone cannot boot directly from NAND. The process is more complex, requiring a set of boot loaders that build upon each other, finally resulting in a few megabytes of core Symbian OS image, the ROM, being loaded into RAM, where it will execute. NAND is also inherently less reliable than NOR. The lower price of NAND compared to NOR makes it attractive for mass-market phone projects, even after taking into account the extra RAM required.

Source : http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Flash_Memory
For symbian ^1 nokia phones the ram is too low that causes low ram issue.
This explaination is not help those members that want to learn not for those that will show off
So no offense to anyone.
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Ahhhaaaa~~~ read carefully when PRO are showing you wonders..

Hail Nokia for having to bring us godlike multi tasking by having not enough ram to run them in the first place but then give you a godlike FAST and HUGE VIRTUAL MEMORY which BOOST your multi tasking to GODLIKE level...

Hail the PRO for having shown us the door to greatness... HAIL NOKIA...


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What was it again? Swap? Virtual Memory? Paging?
What was it yet again?? The GODLIKE feature that only GODLIKE N900 has and nobody else have.

Ah... SUPER DUPER GODLIKE FAST AND SPACIOUS 768MB VIRTUAL MEMORY... I See~~~ and that WAS SUPPOSED TO BOOST MULTI TASKING LEVEL ON N900 TO SUPER DUPER GODLIKE... I see~~~

What was it again that I missed??? ohmy.gif
I failed my accounting... failing to realise 256+768=1024 which is > 256 alone... ahhhh, but who failed IT....

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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Sep 5 2010, 10:39 PM)
I seriously don't know what is he talking tongue.gif
Walao...my 128mb everyday also tell me Memory Full. Please close some app and try again. ==lll
Why suddenly go scold people's uncle noob?__?
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Dont learn too much la, later you laugh till die...

If you want to learn about Virtual Memory or Paging, just Google for it and then read carefully what it really is and why it was called Virtual Memory or Paging. To simplify, Virtual Memory is not RAM. Having more of it does not guarantee the phone gonna be faster or multi task better. In order to have an application ACTUALLY running in background, the program must sit inside the RAM. So when the RAM is full, the OS will clear some RAM by copying data from the RAM which is idling (program is running but not active) and then moving it to the Swap File or so called Virtual Memory. So if the user does not kill any program, the ram will keep running full and each time you switch focus to another program, it will search the other program from the RAM and the Virtual Memory if it cant find it inside the RAM. This is where it start getting slower. If the program still sit inside the RAM, ok, its fast, but if already being moved to the Virtual Memory, you have to wait for it to clear out the idle RAM space and then copy the wanted programs from the Virtual Memory back to the RAM. Copying back and forth from the slower Virtual Memory is what slows down the loading process.

Iphone OS also has something similar but different implementation. Instead of having the OS randomly choosing the program to be transferred to the Virtual Memory, it does so by closing it but saving its state as well.

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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Sep 5 2010, 11:50 PM)
I know what is Virtual Memory and all that stuff...I'm just saying I don't know what your talking cause very messy the way you write in your previous post...as if you're joking or something tongue.gif
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Ohhh... ceh, you wasted my time... just kidding...

Nolar, I just wanna kacau N900 godlike phone user who come here kacao kacao with something based on paper which was suppose to be SUPERIOR wor...
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Sep 5 2010, 11:58 PM)
hahah...ok...I'm not a user yet but I wanna be one tongue.gif
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If you are able to get one cheap, it should be a good experience...

However, as usual, Nokia has kinda abandon the N900 so now its more heavily supported by the community itself... worth trying? I cant see Maemo getting any attention since Nokia already stated that it will dance along with Intel for Meego.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 5 2010, 11:59 PM)
like some ppl ka ka cau like very smart know everything. At least others learn to explain then some people showing off like he/she/it knows everything in the world. Only what he say is right others say is crap.

People keep quiet beause they dont want waste their time with arrogant ppl.

Thats why that fellows dont dare to go to the other thread or else he get flame there happy.gif

Another forumer exactly like this is found here http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=326144 just different type of topic.

So mature  rclxms.gif
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Hahaha...

You can prove me wrong also... but dont talk imaginary stuffs la.
If you are correct you can counter attack... I dont mind cos Im getting to learn as well...

Sometimes I do get my hdd (memory) corrupted and therefore need to be reinstall... but dont install malware lor...


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You orang semua sudah gila ka??? mad.gif mad.gif

Android sini, Android sana, mad.gif mad.gif

Keluar Keluar... Semuanya PENDATANG laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Sep 6 2010, 12:18 AM

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I really have to raise white flag. I thought was impossible. However, I die die also must bring my thumbdrive to Ranger programme and test kao kao why N8 can play HD while my Legend can't. Same CPU but different 80MHz nia. Some more mine with more RAM. This one I don't investigate also cannot die peacefully.
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 6 2010, 12:13 AM)
sadly...  Moto already said they will lock all it new phone's bootloader... 
ok..  keep quiet now ... Aku keluar..

good night all...
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Opppsss, gua sudah silap kao kao again...

Should be MASUK, back to topic.. instead of asking KELUAR, for out of topic...
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 6 2010, 12:23 AM)
Android kalah here.. laugh.gif 

the GPU play an important rules here.... 

half bite fruit play full HD video oh..  that is really surprising... 

my Pentium Duo Core also play like "pulling bull up to tree"...  hahaha...
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Did the GPU really play the big role? I'm asking because even my HD4850 1GB can't play Full HD smoothly. I'm suspecting some sort of trick with the conversion format. Actually today I played around the conversion format. By default, some formats are hardware accelerated. That is why gua want to bring my own video to test. Even with AVI or WMV, you can choose the video format which are being accelerated instead of those which rely on CPU alone. I tested just one format today. HD rmvb totally unplayable but after converting to MP4 still can accept although a bit laggy. Next gonna try VC.
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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Sep 6 2010, 12:47 AM)
My HD4850 served me well , haven't had any problems with video playback.

You should try using Media Player Classic with some codecs , it has some hardware acceleration which i don't really know. Playback Full HD no problems.
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Yeah, the stupid DXVA isnt it?
I checked liao then play 720p and 1080p also laggy...

I Googled up and find that people has varying experience on it. Some claimed smooth and some just like me, laggy.

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