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post Aug 24 2010, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 24 2010, 03:08 PM)
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imagine u bursting at 10fps. but no shutter sound. syok?  rolleyes.gif
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thats wat we called stealth mode.. wit articulation lcd summore.. brows.gif brows.gif
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post Aug 24 2010, 03:16 PM

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Imagine a FF pellicle camera with 24mp and double BIONZ processor capable of firing at 10 fps in full resolution + shoot HD video, BOTH with fully operation phase detect AF mechanism..... STIM wei.....!!!

Only thing I hope that they sort out by the time they come out with the FF version is the accuracy and speed of the AF mechanism. If it proofs to be as good or better than the Nikon's 51 AF point 3D tracking system, that will pawn everything.....

p/s: price it cheaper than the A850, please..... since no more ultra bright pentaprism and no more expensive motorized mirror box required.

tonight go home sure cannot sleep lah! laugh.gif


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post Aug 24 2010, 03:17 PM

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total silent eh?
than this is what?

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post Aug 24 2010, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 24 2010, 03:17 PM)
total silent eh?
than this is what?

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that's when u clean the sensor la.then only the mirror locks up. sweat.gif
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post Aug 24 2010, 03:20 PM

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Izzit the DSLR in our market d?
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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 24 2010, 03:12 PM)
10fps got its limitation. for one, u cannot control iso & shutter speed. so if shoot fast moving objects, still lose to the canon 1d m4. of course cannot compare la.

and.....i wonder how will it sound like..10fps no mechanical shutter sound a bit....no syok la.. tongue.gif

other than that......... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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ISO + shutter speed, set first then only spam lah?
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post Aug 24 2010, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 24 2010, 03:17 PM)
total silent eh?
than this is what?

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According to the information on the internet, the mirror will remain stationary during operation. It will only be flipped up for cleaning purposes (when you want to clean the sensor). Actually this is one part of the design which I don't quite understand. Why do you need to design the mirror to flip up? If Sony can design the camera such that the mirror remains stationary during operation, might as well completely seal off the sensor so that no dust will reach it (hence no dust cleaning required!). Wouldn't that be more practical? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kysham @ Aug 24 2010, 03:16 PM)
Imagine a FF pellicle camera with 24mp and double BIONZ processor capable of firing at 10 fps in full resolution + shoot HD video, BOTH with fully operation phase detect AF mechanism..... STIM wei.....!!!

Only thing I hope that they sort out by the time they come out with the FF version is the accuracy and speed of the AF mechanism. If it proofs to be as good or better than the Nikon's 51 AF point 3D tracking system, that will pawn everything.....

p/s: price it cheaper than the A850, please..... since no more ultra bright pentaprism and no more expensive motorized mirror box required.

tonight go home sure cannot sleep lah! laugh.gif
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inception anybody? rolleyes.gif

yes the main issue with the pellicle is the AF speed while shooting fast moving objects. if really can match 1dm4 or nikon (with a cheaper price).......... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

i wonder what can C n N come out with rolleyes.gif
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For sure C & N will not stand still and if they see this technology taking off big time, they will want to develop their own versions of this technology. Remember that Canon had used the pellicle mirror camera concept before (long time ago, during film days), so it is not something new to them. Just a matter of bringing the technology up to date, like what Sony had done.
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QUOTE(kysham @ Aug 24 2010, 03:24 PM)
According to the information on the internet, the mirror will remain stationary during operation. It will only be flipped up for cleaning purposes (when you want to clean the sensor). Actually this is one part of the design which I don't quite understand. Why do you need to design the mirror to flip up? If Sony can design the camera such that the mirror remains stationary during operation, might as well completely seal off the sensor so that no dust will reach it (hence no dust cleaning required!). Wouldn't that be more practical?  hmm.gif
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correct also.. should seal all than no need to clean the sensor..
why ar.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(SoulPower @ Aug 24 2010, 03:20 PM)
Izzit the DSLR in our market d?
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QUOTE(cassplayer @ Aug 24 2010, 03:21 PM)
ISO + shutter speed, set first then only spam lah?
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cannot la..all auto sad.gif if can then really imba d... drool.gif

QUOTE(kysham @ Aug 24 2010, 03:24 PM)
According to the information on the internet, the mirror will remain stationary during operation. It will only be flipped up for cleaning purposes (when you want to clean the sensor). Actually this is one part of the design which I don't quite understand. Why do you need to design the mirror to flip up? If Sony can design the camera such that the mirror remains stationary during operation, might as well completely seal off the sensor so that no dust will reach it (hence no dust cleaning required!). Wouldn't that be more practical?  hmm.gif
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from my noob opinion, dust is really really really small. no matter how u seal it, some how or rather one or 2 particles will still manage to squeeze in. over the years it might build up. so if u completely seal it, it will be really really hard to clean if dust ever gets in. maybe sifu albnok can provide a more concrete answer. blush.gif
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i think it need a room to breath..
or later got fungus..

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wat the hack.......

- Imaging Resource: “The Sony Alpha A55V, the version sold in the United States, has one standout feature not present in the A55 and A33: a built-in GPS receiver. This allows both still images and movies to be automatically tagged with information about the location at which they were recorded.”


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http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/AA55/AA55A.HTM

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a300 dinosaur technology la

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I wanna sell off mine d , Anyone interested????

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We really do not know how they design the mirror box. Maybe they are making it possible to change the translucent mirror in the future (mirror accessories)? I don't know.

Argument is that if you can seal it well enough (in design), then there are less chances of dust going to the sensor, and there will be less need to clean the sensor. Maybe you only need to clean the sensor once a year instead of once after every outing, and you only need to send it in to Sony service centre to have it cleaned up (or Sony providing a mirror removing kit for cleaning purposes).
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QUOTE(cjlai @ Aug 24 2010, 03:38 PM)
wat the hack.......

- Imaging Resource: “The Sony Alpha A55V, the version sold in the United States, has one standout feature not present in the A55 and A33: a built-in GPS receiver. This allows both still images and movies to be automatically tagged with information about the location at which they were recorded.”
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wtf?

ours one dun have?? vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
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QUOTE(cjlai @ Aug 24 2010, 03:38 PM)
wat the hack.......

- Imaging Resource: “The Sony Alpha A55V, the version sold in the United States, has one standout feature not present in the A55 and A33: a built-in GPS receiver. This allows both still images and movies to be automatically tagged with information about the location at which they were recorded.”
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http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/AA55/AA55A.HTM
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Somehow, somewhere..... I heard a "rumor" that Malaysia is getting the A55v version.... (don't ask me where I got that information, and I cannot confirm the information). brows.gif
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QUOTE(kysham @ Aug 24 2010, 03:39 PM)
We really do not know how they design the mirror box. Maybe they are making it possible to change the translucent mirror in the future (mirror accessories)? I don't know.

Argument is that if you can seal it well enough (in design), then there are less chances of dust going to the sensor, and there will be less need to clean the sensor. Maybe you only need to clean the sensor once a year instead of once after every outing, and you only need to send it in to Sony service centre to have it cleaned up (or Sony providing a mirror removing kit for cleaning purposes).
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Maybe there's no need to clean the sensor but how about the translucent mirror? Don't forget that light does pass through it... Dust on it will also affect the image outcome. Maybe it's time for them to change the anti-dust system from sensor to the mirror. lol
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QUOTE(kysham @ Aug 24 2010, 03:39 PM)
We really do not know how they design the mirror box. Maybe they are making it possible to change the translucent mirror in the future (mirror accessories)? I don't know.

Argument is that if you can seal it well enough (in design), then there are less chances of dust going to the sensor, and there will be less need to clean the sensor. Maybe you only need to clean the sensor once a year instead of once after every outing, and you only need to send it in to Sony service centre to have it cleaned up (or Sony providing a mirror removing kit for cleaning purposes).
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hmm. maybe a fully sealed mirror, yet easy to be removed with the proper tools? laugh.gif

i am also hoping it will be weather proofed like the 5dm2 if the FF pellicle were to come out....i am sure that will cause a furore in the professional photog world . icon_idea.gif

gosh, technology really moves damn fast la. really hard to catch up. rclxub.gif

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