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wongpeter
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Sep 19 2010, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Sep 19 2010, 09:27 PM) Teach you a lesson, why in the first place you have to ask personal question? And who says a person having a particular number is from a certain place? I have mobile numbers starting from 2,3,7, 8 and 9 where a few of them bought from LYN members at Garage Sale. Anyway, why you guys must apply thru agent? The fastest way is to go to branch and if you cannot fax in your application. "Anyway, why you guys must apply thru agent?" - some of the female agents are very pretty. hopefully some of them are single! when we ichibawa will try to ask for phone no lor.....
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wongpeter
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Sep 20 2010, 09:44 AM
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Limit on credit cardsSept 19, 2010» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Limit on credit cards
PETALING JAYA (Sept 19, 2010): In a bid to keep household debt under control, Bank Negara Malaysia will impose new guidelines to make it harder for consumers to obtain and own credit cards.
A senior bank official told theSun that the new rules, to be unveiled in Budget 2011, will restrict the number of credit cards per consumer and allow only those with a yearly income above RM24,000 eligible to own a credit card.
“We are looking at two main aspects -- increasing the income level required for a credit card and restricting the number of credit cards per consumer,” said the official.
TheSun learnt that under the new rule, a consumer can only own credit cards from two banks of their choice while the minimum income limit to qualify for a credit card will be increased from the current RM18,000 per annum.
“This will tighten credit card spending as many in the lower income category and below the ages of 30 have been blacklisted and declared bankrupt due to increasing debts,” said the official. “The move will also prevent consumers from holding a string of credit cards and cap their spending limit.
“The rationale is simple. If you are in the low income category, you should not own several credit cards and spend more than what you can afford. It is becoming increasingly easy for fresh graduates and the newly-employed to obtain credit cards.
"Most of them, upon obtaining their card, go on spending spree without taking into account the interest rates and late repayment charges," said the official.
"Over several months, the amount snowballs and the card holder is unable to service his debt, resulting in blacklisting and bankruptcy when the debts cross the RM30,000 mark.
"The new rules will curb this kind of practices by card holders, especially those below 30 years," said the official.
BNM is in the last stages of finalising details with banks and the relevant authorities before the rules become effective. It is learnt that the new rules when Budget 2011 is tabled in Parliament next month.
As of July, there are 7.9 million principal cards in circulation nationwide with outstanding balances for three months and below of RM1.96 billion.
Outstanding balances for six months and above stood at RM69.5 million.
Based on data from Bank Negara, there are 218,561bankruptcy cases as of June, out of which 4,417 were for failure to settle credit card debts.
Last year, 407 credit card holders were declared bankrupt.
In Budget 2010 unveiled in October last year, the government imposed an annual service tax of RM50 for every principal credit card and RM25 for every supplementary card with effect from January.
Following the move, there was a 18% drop in principal cards in circulation and a 17% decline in supplementary cards.
At present, credit card limits are set at a bank’s discretion with first time applicants usually given limits of 2.5 to three times their monthly income.
It is easy to qualify for a credit card, with some banks even providing pre-approved credit cards for consumers, based on their basic salary and credit ratings. Some banks offer credit cards to consumers immediately after they take up a hire-purchase car loan. -- theSun
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wongpeter
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Sep 20 2010, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(tgeoklin @ Sep 20 2010, 06:13 PM) YES, banks love you ...... and if you meet their income requirement and do not have a lot of cards/debts, 100% approval  +1 100% correct!  Added on September 20, 2010, 6:57 pmQUOTE(mugenz @ Sep 20 2010, 06:02 PM) just asking, when u guys refer to paying your cards on time as in fully settle after each month usage? or just minimum? i usually pay only minimum unless i have extra for the month i will clear more than minimum.. does that affect my applications as the card still have balance uncleared. Don't know about the uncleared balance but your kind is considered the best type of customer by the bank cos they will be earning lots of interest from you when you only settle the min amount each month. If you apply for a cc the chances of you getting it is very good! This post has been edited by wongpeter: Sep 20 2010, 06:57 PM
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wongpeter
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Sep 20 2010, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(skincladalien @ Sep 20 2010, 09:21 PM) wanna ask, if every month only pay minimum, the debt can be cleared or forever snowballing? not really good at calculating. also, if only pay minimum and swipe again there are no interest free period right? If you will be using the cc and paying the minimum repayment every month the debt will never be settled till the day you die! Added on September 20, 2010, 10:10 pmQUOTE(travelyew @ Sep 20 2010, 08:47 PM) Erm...... I mention i got the FD in the their bank plus income tax statement.... If that is the case what's the big deal if the titanium cc application is declined. Just deposit RM5K FD in OCBC. This post has been edited by wongpeter: Sep 20 2010, 10:10 PM
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wongpeter
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Sep 23 2010, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(hye @ Sep 23 2010, 03:46 PM) I agree. Just submitted my Titanium application today. The person who attended to me initially thought I want to ask for a CL upgrade but was totally shocked  when I asked for only a small credit limit. (As most in this forum mentioned that, card is good for small spending) Is it possible to specifically ask for a lower CL when applying for a cc?
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wongpeter
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Sep 24 2010, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Sep 24 2010, 01:09 PM) i failed my ocbc titanium i think because i got too high credit limit on other cards. they would total up my credit limit from other bank and then compare the risk of me maxing out all the cards. so.. moral of the story is.. high CL not necessary good esp if u have multiple card. I am not so sure that totalling the CL of all cc's owned thus establishing the quantum of risk is the criteria used to determine the eligibility for a cc. Income is without a doubt a huge determinant when applying for a cc. Perhaps other factors are equally as important as income and maybe someone in the banking or cc industry could shed some light on this matter of how and why cc applications are successful or declined.
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wongpeter
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Sep 24 2010, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(HTann @ Sep 24 2010, 09:39 PM) Can anyone tell me what is the different platinum master & visa? What is the point if bank upgrade your gold to platinum remain same CL..hahaha! still consider wanna let them activate the cc or not? The point is that the bank can make more money by charging you a higher annual fee for the platinum card. hahaha
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wongpeter
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Sep 24 2010, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Sep 24 2010, 11:20 PM) these days most banks can't collect on annual fees anyway oic, and I was beginning to wonder why anyone would want to apply for 5, 6 or more credit cards! Say someones salary is 12k/mth and he is already getting 30k CL on his cc whats the point of getting another 5 cc's with about the same CL? No way in hell he is going to spend 6cc's X 30k = 180k in a month when his salary is just 12k/mth! I really don't see the rationale behind having 6-7 cc's! Anyone care to explain the benefits of owning a ton of plastic?
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wongpeter
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Sep 25 2010, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(Angel On Fire @ Sep 25 2010, 04:02 PM) Got a letter from OCBC declining my Tit Card application Amex is out despite its attractive rebates since I can't use it to pay certain bills. Am now considering either DA Gold Mastercard or Alliance You.nique Gold (Great Rebate option). I thought some forummer in here appealed his case of cc application being declined and finally succeeded in getting approval. You should do the same.
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wongpeter
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Sep 25 2010, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(travelyew @ Sep 25 2010, 09:28 AM) Lastly i get my titanium cc, just share my application history: 22 aug - left my phone no. on OCBC website. 23 aug - Agent called me 25 aug - Sent all my documents. 26 aug - start process. 3 sept - Application unsuccessful. Called agent and CS few times in few days to get the reason, useless. 10 sept - get the letter from OCBC to inform my application failed. 14 sept - Called CS again. Made an appeal. 16 sept - Bank called to verify some info. 17 sept - card approved. 22 sept - received the card. Almost a month for whole process........ However, not start use, just activate. Later will try to use for my 1st cc....  Added on September 25, 2010, 7:47 pmQUOTE(Angel On Fire @ Sep 25 2010, 06:57 PM) Added on September 25, 2010, 7:15 pmBut I don't know what to appeal on, since OCBC won't reveal the reason for declining I meet the income requirements, no bad CCRIS record and no overexposure. Maybe you could seek travelyew's advice. Do you have any documents showing other forms of income like rentals, FD certs, money in savings a/c, land grants, stocks and shares etc...anything to help out your case. More often than not its not really what you own that needs to be shown but rather HOW you argue your case. Good luck. This post has been edited by wongpeter: Sep 25 2010, 07:47 PM
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wongpeter
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Sep 26 2010, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(choonkeong @ Sep 26 2010, 01:03 AM) Received my Just One renewable card 3 months ago. 10-09-2010 This card accidentally jumped into my washing machine and swam for the whole night. 16-09-2010 Deposit successfully at the CDM but cannot do withdrawal from Current Account at ATM Penang branch. (Cash advance no problem) 17-09-2010 No usage problem at petrol station. 19-09-2010 No problem withdrawal at Taiping SCB branch ATM. 25-09-2010 Deposit no problem but withdrawal from current account cannot. Is the machine in Penang branch using magnetic strip? Is the magnetic strip no longer functioning? Anyway, I have called SCB phonebanking, an Indian guy named JOE agrees to send me a new card without charges. whoa! be careful StanChart CS. Really quite incompetent. Indian guy called Joe?  hmmm some months back I had a bad experience also with SCB CS called Joe when I tried to register for Online Banking and couldn't get authorization code by sms cos the SCB CS kept screwing up my mobile no. Despite me telling them my no. was 012-1234xyz when I called back few days later to enquire about the status they had the gall to ask me if my tel no. was 012-4321abc!?? The CS couldn't even note down tel nos without making a mistake! In the end I had to call them 4 times before the OB registeration was successful. I suggest you follow up with another call to SCB CS to check on the status. Murphy's law, if things can go wrong....they definitely will go wrong when it comes to SCB CS.
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wongpeter
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Sep 27 2010, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(hye @ Sep 27 2010, 08:48 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Thank you @tgeoklin, I share your opinions as well. The newer generation are just too gung-ho about CL, card upgrade, EZ Payments, etc. I worry about these developments as it could possibly indicate denial about the ACTUAL responsibility when using a credit card.
Back then I had to wait for a good 6 months to 1 year before being eligible for applying a credit card. These days they want the card right away from starting work on the pretext of "emergency purposes" and not realizing the danger of using credit card to survive. Added on September 27, 2010, 5:58 pmQUOTE(tgeoklin @ Sep 27 2010, 09:05 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Yes, sad but probably the result of the overall "Malaysia Boleh" mentality, especially the graduates, with over 90% thinking that its their goddamn entitlement. Good example is the study loan fiasco. We are probably emulating the US back in the 80s but with worst off social obligations at that. Guess they will need to learn their lesson the hard way but then they will probably drag everyone along with them. The govt already forsee the trend, thus the encouragement to move to debit cards but .........  Excellent observations from both hye and tgeoklin. I share the same sentiments but maybe peeps like us are just being conservative. This post has been edited by wongpeter: Sep 27 2010, 05:58 PM
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wongpeter
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Oct 1 2010, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(tzeling @ Oct 1 2010, 07:13 PM) would like to ask when a Gold Credit card salary min requirement is 3k per mth. if basic salary less than 3k but every mth got fix allowance so the salary become 3k, is it fine? it seems like with basic + allowance sum up only get 3k it's hard to get approval for OCBC Ti/ other gold card? I think banks are more interested in income rather than strictly salary and income can be from salary, from property rentals or other passive forms of income. So strictly speaking your salary + allowances = your income. I feel you stand a good chance so why don't you give it a try after all, nothing ventured nothing gained!
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wongpeter
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Oct 5 2010, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(Nidz @ Oct 5 2010, 02:06 PM) hi guys, i want to know how the bank calculate cc interest... my statement date is on the 18th of evry month, and i need to pay the amount before 7th the next month. if i pay full, then there's no prob. wut if i pay half before 7th? then my balance will be charge with interest? lets say i settle the other half of outstanding amount before the 15th, around 1 week after the last date for payment. will i be charged with interest as well? thanks for ur guidance... call up the bank's customer service. tell them your statement date is on the 18th of evry month. tell them your balance is x amt of ringgits. tell them u want to pay half before 7th ie RMx/2. tell them u wan settle other half of outstanding amount ie RMx/2 before the 15th, around 1 week after the last date for payment (btw what is the last date of payment?) then ask them how much interest will the bank charge for RMx/2 - RMy (this half the outstanding amt we shall call y) that will be paid before the 15th around 1 week after the last date of payment. We know your statement date is the 18th so what is the significance of the following dates: 7th; 15th; last date of payment + 1 week? then after the CS tells you how much is the interest charged pls come back in here to update all of us here cos this complex mathematical problem is absolutely fascinating. Thanks. n/b: btw life could be a whole lot simpler if you settle the balance in full every month! This post has been edited by wongpeter: Oct 5 2010, 07:30 PM
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wongpeter
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Oct 8 2010, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(devil86 @ Oct 8 2010, 08:25 PM) hi, juz wan to ask, if i make a payment to someone via paypal for purchasing an item with total price RM4000, can i request the bank to transfer this rm4000 payment into installment plan? my concern is i paying via paypal, can i still make this request? btw, i'm holding CIMB and Public bank credit card... Of course you can request your bank and it is just that - a request. The bank can refuse your request.
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wongpeter
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Oct 11 2010, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(CyberianHusky @ Oct 11 2010, 11:10 AM) yup... due to the waiting game i decided to cancel those both ... but the CIMB came with the RM50 charge before the card is even picked up.  Yes that is so unfair isn't it. Since it's a free country I suggest you don't pay it. I am quite sure they can't issue a warrant of arrest out on you for non-payment. Maybe they'll just put a blackmark on your CTOS or is it CCRIS and then you'll never be eligible for a loan or cc application ever again. But that's just a small price to pay. The important thing is that you get to save the 50 bucks and that is all that matters!
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wongpeter
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Oct 11 2010, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 11 2010, 03:09 PM) Maybe the budget could annouce that each person can hold 2 CC (which will be GST-free), subsequent cards will be charged RM50 GST. Me being hopeful ;-) Not a chance that GST will be waived for credit cards owned seeing as how the Malaysian economy is not doing well regionally. Just be glad the GST has not been raised from RM50 to RM100 per cc.
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wongpeter
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Oct 11 2010, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(yuunasue @ Oct 11 2010, 04:21 PM) today i report to CTB rgd my card unauthorizes transaction, their only ask me to fill up distupe form, their office will investigate, but my action faster then them, ard check the transaction with their HQ where transaction make with Apple store shipping to KL and rcv by one person name Rakmal. And just few day ago. Their can take immediate action, why waste time to check this check that. I'm the victim stand in front of them. ShXT !! But so curious, why the scamer can use my name to registry apple ID? But he use differ email. BTW, shall i rpt to police? Let me see if I read your posting correctly. Someone used your card to order something from the Apple Online store. The goods were shipped to a recipient by the name of Rakmal (which of course is your actual name) in KL. Did the Apple Online store give you all these details? Maybe you should find out if this scammer Rakmal is also using your address for receiving the goods?! hmmm And you are here to ask if you should report this fraudulent transaction to the police. Did I get all of that right?
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wongpeter
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Oct 12 2010, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(kohvivian @ Oct 12 2010, 01:58 PM) is StanChard giving the new square small ipod shuffle or the old model that is in rectangular shape in the previous contest? How much does it worth now? The market price is approx RM170. If you are willing to take a RM50 hit I think you can easily sell it for RM120 in Garage Sales provided it's unopened.
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wongpeter
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Oct 13 2010, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(king_kenny @ Oct 13 2010, 11:04 AM) This is the 2nd time I receive calls from someone claiming from VISA&MASTERCARD, saying i am entitle for a RM100k insurance premium. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I do not know, whats their motive, but i just play along, when they ask me :
1) Conlady : Are you Mr XXXX. ME : Yes I am.
2) Conlady : we are from Mastercard & Visa Card Company,,you are entitle for 100k premium insurance,,bla bla bla bla...Do you own Master or Visa Credit Card Me : You should know better, U said U are from Master & Visa Card.
3). Conlady : From which bank is your card, sir? Me : You should know better, U said U are from Master & Visa Card.
4) Conlady : Err,,Err,,I will call you back, sir.TQ Me : LOL
I'm eagerly awaiting for their 3rd call, asking the same stupid questions.
BTW, Mastercard & Visa are 2 different company. Don't be fooled by them, I do not know what is their motive by the way, & how the got my number. Can I know which telco network you are on? I am with Maxis and I have never received any such calls although I get tons of spam from clubs regarding their special promos on drinks. Maybe one or more of the telcos had a breach in security and leaked out their customer's numbers.
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