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post Sep 17 2010, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(smallz1907 @ Sep 17 2010, 03:14 PM)
Hi,

I'm planning to apply a credit card from Maybank. I'm a fresh grad and already started working for almost 3 month. Can any sifus advice me whether maybank is a good choice and how to apply. Other than that, what document should i provide other than my IC and salary slip? I read in the website, for fresh grad should provide employment offer letter and degree cert. Is it true?

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MBB got many types of cards, go for MBB Petronas as there is no annual fees.

Since you are a graduate, you can also consider CIMB/Direct Access where you will also enjoy free annual fees for life.
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QUOTE(rivendell @ Sep 17 2010, 07:02 PM)
For Direct Access, I noticed that they have cash rebates for weekend shopping and petrol, but both are valid till 30 Sept and 31 Dec respectively. Does this mean both are only one-time promotions? No more cash rebates after that?
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Yes, CIMB/DA cash rebate promotions are not permanent features but it is free for life, no need calling calling for annual fee waiver yearly.

Recently, many card offering cash rebate, in order for CIMB/DA to be competitive and encourage the card members to use their cards, I believe they will have continue to offer some cash back schemes.


QUOTE(smallz1907 @ Sep 17 2010, 09:18 PM)
So if i want to buy something and pay it using the flexi payment 0% monthly installment, which credit card should i go for ? I'm planning to buy a laptop and so far, i can see only maybank and citibank that is accepted for installment.
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True, many merchants do offer 0% installements for MBB cards as compared to CIMB/DA. For example, DELL does offer 0% for MBB and Citibank only. And HP online also accept Ambank, Citibank, EON Bank, Maybank, HSBC, OCBC and RHB for 0% installments payments but not CIMB/DA.

As I mentioned, go for MBB Petronas which has no annual fees, but for petrol you only benefit if you pump at Petronas. If you want 0% schemes, yes go for MBB.

FYI, if you want Acer or HP, Harvey Norman basically accept any CC for 0% installment scheme.
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post Sep 19 2010, 09:27 PM

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Finally found some use for my DA VI. Today was at 1U gsc, CIMB/DA VISA cardholders gets 1 for 1 free ticket. Too bad it does not apply for 3D movies, so I had to pay full for 2 tickets to watch Resident Evil in 3D. Next time I go watch non 3D movie there can get 2 free tickets as my wife has VI too.


QUOTE(Shinichi @ Sep 19 2010, 01:14 PM)
I received first statement for my OCBC Titanium with RM50 GST charged. But funny thing is I still haven't receive the card... sweat.gif
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Better call OCBC to check when they sent out the card. My first card took two week via normal post. Had it cancelled and picked up new card from HQ which only took them 2 working days to issue. My advise to people applying OCBC is to go to branch and apply and have the card sent to the branch for collection.


QUOTE(Veda @ Sep 19 2010, 01:14 PM)
An "informed" friend told me limiting a consumer to credit cards from two banks, and raising the minimum annual income requirements to RM24k is "very likely".
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I doubt the government will limit the number of credit cards a consumer can hold. If they want to implement this, instead of limiting the number of total cards from 2 banks, what they will do most probably is limit consumers to having cards issued by 2 banks but no limit in number of cards. Why I say so is because the CL is still the same. For example, MBB you can have Visa, MC and AMEX CC where they all share the same CL.

The government is very well aware of the debt situation and many people becoming bankrupt because of credit cards and that is why they introduce the service tax last year to discourage people from having too many CC besides getting income. IMO, most likely the goverment may introduce one of the following this coming budget:

1. Increase the service tax from RM50 to RM75 or even RM100. Most people get credit card for 2 reasons - (1) for convenience and (2) for credit to buy stuffs they otherwise cannot afford. So by increasing the tax, card users will have to pay for convenience (most people only need 1 or 2 cards and to save on this tax, they can go use debit cards) and for those who need credit, what is RM50 or RM100 when can get easy thousand RM credit. By increasing the tax, the government will get more revenue.

2) As you mentioned, increase the annual income to qualify for CC. RM24K a year is reasonable.

3) Limit the total combined credit limit from all banks. The goverment can set tier for total combined CL a person can have shall be based on annual income. For example, max CL of RM10K, RM20K, RM30K for annual income RM24K-RM36K, RM36K- RM60K and RM60K-RM100K. For annual income above RM100K, CL up to bank.

4) Reduce the interest rate charged by banks again. Present 18% in just too high.

5) Worst senario, CL based on FD pledged.


QUOTE(owenwong84 @ Sep 19 2010, 03:30 PM)
wahseh... i applied ocbc titanium from an agent. I got a surprise call from the agent's husband ask me to stay away from her wife.

I sms the agent my company's address and ask whether she from sabah becoz her hp number is starting from 8. No intention to be friend or court her. Just 1 sms. Moreover i'm younger than the wife. Got no security dun be sales line lah.

Who is ocbc agent here, please pm me. i want to get other agent .
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Teach you a lesson, why in the first place you have to ask personal question? And who says a person having a particular number is from a certain place? I have mobile numbers starting from 2,3,7, 8 and 9 where a few of them bought from LYN members at Garage Sale.

Anyway, why you guys must apply thru agent? The fastest way is to go to branch and if you cannot fax in your application.
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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Sep 20 2010, 09:44 AM)
Limit on credit cards
Sept 19, 2010
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Like I mentioned makes more sense to limit to 2 banks instead of 2 cards. Wonder what will happen when BNM imposed this to people who have cards issued from more than 2 banks.


QUOTE(tgeoklin @ Sep 20 2010, 05:58 PM)
Yes, RM30K is a plat card limit for some banks but the Titanium is below plat status, plus OCBC is ultra stingy, so the answer is definitely NO  tongue.gif

If I am to guess, I would say RM15K would be their figure, but do keep us informed  hmm.gif
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Yah lah OCBC damn stingy giving me CL same as my lowest Plat CL but higher than my Citi Clear Card CL 30K.

But then again comes 1st January 2011, one do not need more than RM5K CL as get nothing from the card if spend more than RM5K (assuming all non 5% rebate transactions).

QUOTE(kelvinlee1983 @ Sep 20 2010, 08:29 PM)
Today, the scb cs phoned me
Informed me that,
i cannot cancel the credit card, due to scb had made GST payment and RM38 to me.
If i really want to cancel, i had to wait after 6 months.

Haiz, scb force me to activate the card and use!
I really dislike this credit card!
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I really don't know what you complaining about. Give you free credit also not satisfied. Just go use the RM38 and then after 6 months cancel the card la.

QUOTE(travelyew @ Sep 20 2010, 08:32 PM)
Just called the CS, my appeal for application is approved!
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Good to know you finally got your application approved.

QUOTE(zenquix @ Sep 20 2010, 11:20 PM)
I manage to hit RM116 for my first month. Card has paid for itself and some.
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You do eat a lot don't you tongue.gif

QUOTE(lara_ @ Sep 20 2010, 11:54 PM)
So envy those who has been approved by OCBC. My card submit on 8/18 until now still under processing.
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So did you call OCBC CS and enquire why? Most probably your application lost and gone missing.
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QUOTE(stacko @ Sep 21 2010, 03:30 PM)
Well my OCBC Titanium approved on 2 Sep, card only reached me on 17 Sep. And RM50 GST already charged on 11 Sep.
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QUOTE(alexwsk @ Sep 21 2010, 02:42 PM)
finally my wife received the reject letter from ocbc for titanium
dated 4 sept but reach on 17 sept sweat.gif
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Blame Post Malaysia for the delays. My UOB statement on the 5th only reached me today (21 Sep) and I have to make payment by this week.

Anyway, UOB got free gift based on expenditure, but it depends on who sent out the sms first on every 2nd of the month starting from 9am

The gifts per month are as follows
10 Paymond Weil monthly for above RM8K
10 HP Mini and 20 Samsung Camera for RM6000-RM7,999
30 Trolley Bags for RM4,000-5,999
and 10,000 UniRiggit for first 1,000 customer to sms minimum spending RM2,500
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QUOTE(yewjin @ Sep 22 2010, 12:59 AM)
Was thinking of applying for HSBC Platinum. It doesnt say much about annual fees on the website. Any idea if the annual fees is free or can be waived? Please advise. Thanks
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yes it is waivable, swipe 12 times.
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QUOTE(tgeoklin @ Sep 23 2010, 12:40 PM)
Actually, if you are really serious about the status of your cards, then only the following should be considered :-

1) Amex Centurion
2) CIMB Enrich WMC
3) SCB VI
4) HSBC Premier
5) UOB Midas Plat

Happy collecting and good luck  tongue.gif
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I have none of the above cry.gif Those cards are indeed exclusive.

I would say the really exclusive card is AMEX Centurion, got equivalent USD1million FD with a bank also cannot qualify for it. CIMB Enrich WMC is also exclusive as it is by invitation only.

As for SCB VI, HSBC Premier and UOB Midas, anybody can qualify if he/she got cash to deposit with the banks.

QUOTE(winner @ Sep 23 2010, 09:33 AM)
It looks like CIMB is throwing its CCs again prior to the announcement from the government on restrictions on CCs. Just like last year end before charging the government service tax, CIMB flooded the market with Gold cc upgrading to Platinum as well as CL increase.
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CIMB strategy is indeed good (giving WMC/VI to HSBC and Citibank card holders with CL less than RM50K) if the government really does limit people from having cards from 2 banks only.


QUOTE(wshoh @ Sep 23 2010, 01:48 PM)

QUOTE(andytan18 @ Sep 22 2010, 01:47 PM)

if the government is going to limit only 2 cc per person, which 2 card will you hold?
Perhaps Gen-X (who made a very useful table, see: My Credit Cards, MilesAndMore or winner sifus can tackle this question?

OCBC's Titanium Mastercard being the best cash rebate card as of today, which card is no. 2 strictly in terms of cash rebates (or even in terms of points after conversion to equivalent RM)? AMEX Gold CC, Direct Access Mastercard? (Standard Chartered JustOne Mastercard Titanium to be excluded as it is no longer available). Many thanks to all forumers!
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I doubt the government will impose a person from holding cards from two banks only. But if they do, I will keep cards from MBB and Alliance Bank since I will get the most rebates from them.

I truly benefit most from my AMEX Gold Charged Card where I get 1.5% rebate for all transactions and annual fees waiver for more than a decade. And AMEX past offers like last year 8X and this year 10X reward points are also very good offers. So if I go with Maybank, I get Visa, MC, Amex Gold CC and Amex Gold Charged Card.

Second card I will keep is Alliance Plat where I can get max rebate of RM800+ a year and also rewards points which has no expiry date.

Both MBB and Alliance reward points are evergreen.

Having said that, I will get my wife to apply either for OCBC Titanium (to get 5% cash rebates) and get the SCB VI or EON Signature (for travelling purposes).

Come to think of it, if the government do impose cards from 2 banks only, most to gain from it are MBB and CIMB both GLC. A conspiracy in the making whistling.gif

As for OCBC Titatium, yes it is indeed the best card around for now in terms of 5% cash rebate with waiver for both annual fees and service tax.

QUOTE(hye @ Sep 23 2010, 03:46 PM)

The person who attended to me initially thought I want to ask for a CL upgrade but was totally shocked shocking.gif  when I asked for only a small credit limit. (As most in this forum mentioned that, card is good for small spending)
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Next year, I will be reducing my CL to less than 10% of present CL next year.

QUOTE(wongpeter @ Sep 23 2010, 06:35 PM)
Is it possible to specifically ask for a lower CL when applying for a cc?
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Yes, it is very easy to ask for reduction in CL after you get your application approved but not the other way round. To ask for a specific CL during application, I guess you can state it in the application form.
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QUOTE(lara_ @ Sep 23 2010, 11:56 PM)
Just check with OCBC hotline. My Titanium card is finally approved. Need to wait another 2 weeks for the card snail to me.
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Finally after a long wait. I think you should get the card in about a week time as postmen all back to work and volume should be back to normal by now.
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Sep 24 2010, 01:09 PM)
i failed my ocbc titanium i think because i got too high credit limit on other cards. they would total up my credit limit from other bank and then compare the risk of me maxing out all the cards.

so.. moral of the story is.. high CL not necessary good esp if u have multiple card.
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too high CL or outstanding amount yet to be settled? Go print your CCRIS report and see what's inside.

I was issued OCBC Titanium, and if combine all the CL of my cards, I would be in the same boat as you.

QUOTE(tgeoklin @ Sep 24 2010, 01:17 PM)
Need to qualify that ....   high CL should commensurate with your income/net worth  smile.gif

Been in the same spot but the difference was my Term Loan (to purchase a property) was denied and had to reduce the CL on one of my card to reduce my overall credit exposure  tongue.gif
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Besides me giving the bank info during application for loan, can the bank check your networth or income from another source? If yes, how can I get a copy of it.


QUOTE(wshoh @ Sep 24 2010, 02:38 PM)
Looks like those of us (including me) who meet the eligibility criteria for OCBC Titanium MC but still fail in our application have to learn from travelyew - appeal by email to cap@ocbc.com and/or pledge FD?

If I recall correctly, someone mentioned seeing OCBC booth at 1Utama on 18/19 Sept. Seems that there should be a booth at Fahrenheit 88 as there were many OCBC Titanium buntings (which mentioned free gift) although I could not locate it.
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If you got a strong case to appeal, no harm.

2 weekends ago OCBC was at 1U, last week I was there Citibank taken over the booth. This week no idea.


QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Sep 24 2010, 03:43 PM)
I also used my HSBC credit card as reference. RM30k really is enough for HSBC credit card apparently. Anyway, they still asked for my income document. Age is the problem here. It will be a few more year before i reach my mid-20s. Told them i am just a student. Therefore, i won't be able to to give them my income document. They asked me if i have any FD with them but unfortunately i do not have any. So i asked them to cancel my application. Might try again when the opportunity comes next time  smile.gif
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Age has nothing to do with owning a credit cards. I had my own personal credit cards and Amwx charged card even before the age of 21 in the USA. At age of 23, when I came back to Malaysia and started working applied for UOB Gold Visa and they gave it to me. If age was a problem, then you won't be holding a HSBC Plat right.

The point is you have no income.

MilesAndMore, maybe it is time to transfer some money into OCBC tongue.gif


QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 24 2010, 04:50 PM)
They MUST accept if not why they partner with AMEX. Not making sense right? sweat.gif
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Ya lah. Sime Darby Medical Centre do accept AMEX also.


QUOTE(samquah @ Sep 24 2010, 05:18 PM)
will the offer a good cl? or match the citibank cl i have??

what about cimb? can they give a good cl?

why i am asking? because i have a credit of almost 28K which i want to transfer to other cc and do installment plan instead of taking personal loan to pay up.
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What, you have outstanding balance of RM28K and paying interest. Better go apply OCBC and CIMB fast fast instead of paying RM300+ interest.

QUOTE(samquah @ Sep 24 2010, 06:26 PM)
but still can take balance transfer for 24 months wat
and like for pb, the upfront interest if bt for 24 month is only 5%.  very much cheaper than taking personal loan@9.6% interest
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so why have you not apply for PBB card? Anyway, don't put your hopes too high with PBB and OCBC giving you higher CL than your present card since you have outstanding debt.

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MilesAndMore: agree with winner and tgeoklin that SCB VI good for usage overseas beside much better Insurance coverage than CIMB.

You can easily qualify for SCB VI if you wish right. Only thing is the annual fees waivable?

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QUOTE(winner @ Sep 27 2010, 07:13 PM)
How do they assess credit exposure by only seeing the customer's face? biggrin.gif

At first the staff persuaded me to take CIMB WMC without asking for my IC, existing cc and income document. But I said I only wanted DA VI. Then she asked me to take CIMB VI instead. I insisted taking DA VI. She then said I should take both DA WMC and VI as they are free for life. I reiterated I only needed DA VI. She then requested my degree certificate and income statement. That was done on Sunday.
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CIMB/DA VI only offers 0.5% cash back and 1% for overseas. I guess you going for the cash rebate instead of points which is a good move since the points have expiry date. Initially VI quite useless as not many promotions and only recently some offers previously for WMC is now also extended to VI.

CIMB/DA WMC offers not applicable to VI (eventhough some of the benefits are stated in VI card benefit but the promotion advertisement clearly states MC only) -

a) cash rebates at many food outlets e.g. Starbuck, KFC (if you single no diff, but people with family or buying for party then the saving can be RM10 or more), Bugger King (yes, I got 10% discount at Bugger King Midvalley last Saturday, cannot swipe and paid with cash). Free coffee at Dome, even just having a muffin or scone.

b) until end Sept 5% rebate at Guardian, TESCO, Cold Storage and Giant.

c) discount/voucher at MPH better than AMEX Gold CC

d) Petrol 2% cash rebate.

Click below to see that above only for MC and not Visa.

http://www.directaccess.com.my/index.php?t..._promotion_list


And another note, some shops staff don't know even know what DA is, and will say that offer only for CIMB doh.gif For example before Raya bought over RM100 books at MPH Subang Parade and the stupid girl said offer for CIMB only but not going to argue with her since I got RM20 vouchers from Subang Parade Management for spending at other merchants there.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Sep 27 2010, 11:27 PM)
By the way, CIMB Bank has also partnered many restaurants that give 10% - 20% off total bill if you pay using their card. HSBC has many such promotions too but CIMB Bank has even more such partner restaurants.

Oh, and the bonus points required to redeem for shopping voucher is the lowest among all the banks in Malaysia too  thumbup.gif
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CIMB, canton i gets 10X (one of my favourite restaurants) and also at Tai Thong got discount. And now, no courier fees for vouchers thumbup.gif

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