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IBM GBS or Accenture SAP?, which to choose
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apaigeniuz
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Nov 11 2010, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(xiang05 @ Aug 17 2010, 08:49 PM) Hi guyz, i need some career advice here... I been offered for ibm GBS and trainee position for SAP ABAPer in accenture. Just wondering...which career path will giv a better future prospect? Izzit both GBS and accenture oso doing SAP ? Thanks  which client (customer) u will be supported? u will dai if the client is m***s....
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peppermint1
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Nov 11 2010, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(apaigeniuz @ Nov 11 2010, 12:44 PM) which client (customer) u will be supported? u will dai if the client is m***s.... y?
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apaigeniuz
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Nov 11 2010, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(peppermint1 @ Nov 11 2010, 12:57 PM) a lots of sev.1 issues everyday..and ibm sucks.. even the expert oso looking for new job..
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Currylaksa
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Nov 11 2010, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(GiNgEr^fIsH @ Nov 11 2010, 12:26 PM) just my 2 cents, 1st class vs 2nd class don't make much of the differences. Its book smart vs street smart which makes the different. many of my uni mates has ventured into the SAP market.. some 1st class, some 2nd class. to be honest, the high flying ones are the 2nd class street smart ones. In SAP, always think of the experience 1st. Configuration exp is the most essential factor. Once you have master that, you can demand hence the money. If it's Accenture, it might make a big difference. The 1st class or 2nd class can help determine which workforce the candidate lands. Higher achievers might get the consulting workforce, which exposes to functional configuration job experience. Those skillsets are valued higher in the market compared to programming roles that solution workforce gets.
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GiNgEr^fIsH
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Nov 11 2010, 02:10 PM
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I shall not comment about Accenture in depth but i think Accenture focuses more on building management skills.
in terms of fresh grad, don't be discourage. Alot of interviewers also judge based on the way the candidate expresses themselves during an interview. Communication is important. I remember giving a recommendation to the management on a candidate with 2nd class rather then 1st class before.
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Selectt
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Nov 11 2010, 09:37 PM
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Hi people, Just want to put a reminder to all who are interested to join SAP. Being SAP beginner myself, SAP is not the only way to get high salary. You can do it if you master UNIX or Java. So does every other technology including Oracle DB. SAP just like Unix, Java, Oracle as long as you master it you can demand more. You have to pave the way as hard as people who do Java and UNIX. Doing SAP is not much different than the others. Do not think if you go SAP, you will get into shortcut and earn high salary. Dont fall into this dream of earning easy and big money. If you dont prove you are technically competent in all technologies, functional areas, plus ability to communicate and do impressive presentation with all levels of people in the organisation; including MNC CEO, COO, CTO, all the company bigshots, forget about earning big bucks. I tell you straight now.
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Currylaksa
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Nov 11 2010, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Nov 11 2010, 09:37 PM) Hi people, Just want to put a reminder to all who are interested to join SAP. Being SAP beginner myself, SAP is not the only way to get high salary. You can do it if you master UNIX or Java. So does every other technology including Oracle DB. SAP just like Unix, Java, Oracle as long as you master it you can demand more. You have to pave the way as hard as people who do Java and UNIX. Doing SAP is not much different than the others. Do not think if you go SAP, you will get into shortcut and earn high salary. Dont fall into this dream of earning easy and big money. If you dont prove you are technically competent in all technologies, functional areas, plus ability to communicate and do impressive presentation with all levels of people in the organisation; including MNC CEO, COO, CTO, all the company bigshots, forget about earning big bucks. I tell you straight now.  Strongly agree  thank you What if SAP products fail? Technology moves so fast, today's hero can be forgotten in half a decade. It is the communication skills and project management that matter in the end, that keep us gainfully employed.
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peppermint1
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Nov 12 2010, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Nov 11 2010, 09:44 PM) Strongly agree  thank you What if SAP products fail? Technology moves so fast, today's hero can be forgotten in half a decade. It is the communication skills and project management that matter in the end, that keep us gainfully employed. +1
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ju146
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Nov 12 2010, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(apaigeniuz @ Nov 11 2010, 12:44 PM) which client (customer) u will be supported? u will dai if the client is m***s.... m*x** will make u s**k. @apigeniuz, are u IBMer working in m*x** team? technical or functional?
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Frosty-Snowman
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Nov 12 2010, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Nov 12 2010, 09:43 AM) m*x** will make u s**k. @apigeniuz, are u IBMer working in m*x** team? technical or functional? it is a currently a black hole there whether technical or functional.. those ibmer, i know who you are there...
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Vinci777
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Nov 12 2010, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Nov 11 2010, 09:44 PM) Strongly agree  thank you What if SAP products fail? Technology moves so fast, today's hero can be forgotten in half a decade. It is the communication skills and project management that matter in the end, that keep us gainfully employed. Half a decade? Impossible bro. MNC spend millions for their SAP system and change them due to SAP downfall in a decade? Don't see it happening dat soon. If SAP falls, many will continue to fall as well. Still, SAP will still have the market to maintain existing customer just like how AS400, JD Edwards are doing now.
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TommyTan
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Nov 12 2010, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Nov 11 2010, 09:37 PM) Do not think if you go SAP, you will get into shortcut and earn high salary. I met many candidate who just want to get into SAP thinking its all roses, sit around consulting people and earn tons of money. I agree there are many who do earn lots, but its not as juicy as it was 10 years back. Some I met even willing to take pay cuts just to get into those roles.
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Currylaksa
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Nov 12 2010, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Nov 12 2010, 11:25 AM) Half a decade? Impossible bro. MNC spend millions for their SAP system and change them due to SAP downfall in a decade? Don't see it happening dat soon. If SAP falls, many will continue to fall as well. Still, SAP will still have the market to maintain existing customer just like how AS400, JD Edwards are doing now. Just that the implementation and upgrade contracts will dry up  but boss you understand I'm not making a point about SAP's shelf life (no one can guess that!), but about the skillsets which matter to us. Say if we're defined by our technology alignment (SAP specialist) instead of our soft skill set (project manager), when SAP implementations dry up we would be left fighting for support job scraps with the WIPROs of the world. Project managers can carry their skillset to any technological implementation independent of SAP.
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apaigeniuz
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Nov 15 2010, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Nov 12 2010, 09:43 AM) m*x** will make u s**k. @apigeniuz, are u IBMer working in m*x** team? technical or functional? im not ibmer..im vendor for ibm.. but im supporting that account like no end.. This post has been edited by apaigeniuz: Nov 15 2010, 07:29 PM
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Vinci777
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Nov 15 2010, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Nov 12 2010, 01:42 PM) Just that the implementation and upgrade contracts will dry up  but boss you understand I'm not making a point about SAP's shelf life (no one can guess that!), but about the skillsets which matter to us. Say if we're defined by our technology alignment (SAP specialist) instead of our soft skill set (project manager), when SAP implementations dry up we would be left fighting for support job scraps with the WIPROs of the world. Project managers can carry their skillset to any technological implementation independent of SAP. Haha. WIPROs.. I get dat. Its tough working with indians from india. Talking about cost saving the quality dips pretty hell much as well.
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