Group LYN Buddhism Retreat - SERIOUS TALK, No trolling please
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 Jan 20 2012, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 20 2012, 02:01 PM) for someone who only stumbled upon it 4 years ago, u're quite knowledgeable about buddhism generally and theravada specifically Well still a lot to learn. But practice wise not much success.  haih Am I dihetuka ? |
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Jan 20 2012, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 20 2012, 02:08 PM) why? u're a success in my eyes. just have to keep going Tihetuka - individuals born with 3 good roots (non-hatred, non-greed, non-delusion) during the current rebirth. If got enough paramita, and if he strives can attain Jhanas or Magga/Phala. what's dihetuka?  Dihetuka - individuals with 2 good roots , but lack another one . This one practice until die cannot enlighten but the current good kamma may enable him to be 3 rooted beings in next life. The maximum can go is Access Concentration (in samatha) and some lower Nanas (in vipassana). Cannot attain Jhanas or Sotapatti Magga. Ahetuka - individuals with no good roots , either born retarded, or without complete sense faculties to comprehend the dhamma, or born into the evil destinies. This one due to unfortunate maturation of evil kamma from the past life that clouds the individuals mind. I will post something on that later. Trying to find the references. It's inside the classification of individuals in Abhidhamma. This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 02:18 PM |
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Jan 20 2012, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 20 2012, 02:21 PM) oh... completely forgotten about this. i guess u r one. i knew of a monk who gave up his robes in order to be more engaging and move more freely to teach meditation, dhamma because he wan't getting anywhere with his meditative experience. according to him, his practice met a stumbling block due to his strong kammic barrier stopping him from breaking the threshold to higher experiences. From this websitetypes of individuals QUOTE (1) A Ugghatitannu : an individual who encounters a Buddha in person, and who is capable of attaining the Holy Paths and the Holy Fruits through the mere hearing of a short concise discourse. (2) A Vipancitannu: an individual who encounters a Buddha in person, but who is capable of attaining the Paths and the Fruits only when the short discourse is expounded to him at some length. At the present day, only the following Neyya and Padaparama classes of individuals remain. (3) A Neyya : an individual who needs to study the sermon and the exposition, and then to practise the provisions contained therein for 7 days to 60 years, to attain the Paths and the Fruits during this lifetime if he tries hard with guidance from the right teacher. (4) A Padaparama : is an individual who cannot attain the Paths and the Fruits within this lifetime. can attain release from worldly ills in his next existence if he dies while practising samatha or vipassana and attains rebirth either as a human being or a deva within the present Buddha Sasana. Necessary Conditions of Practice for Neyya and Padaparama Individuals Neyya-puggala An individual of the Neyya class can become a Sotpanna in this present life, if he faithfully practises the bodhipakkhiya-dhamma comprising satipatthana (four Applications of Mindfulness), sammapadhana (Right Exertion), etc. If he is lax in his practice, he can become a Sotapanna only in his next existence after being reborn in the deva planes. If he dies while still aloof from these (bodhipakkhiya-Dhammas) he will become a total loss so far as the present Buddha Sasana is concerned, but he can still attain release from worldly ills if he encounters the Sasana of the next Buddha. Padaparama-puggala An individual of the Padaparama class can attain release only within the present Buddha Sasana after rebirth in the deva planes in his next existence, if he can faithfully practise the bodhipakkhiya-Dhammas in his present existence. The present Buddha Sasana will continue to exist so long as the Tipitakas remain in the world. The Padaparama class of individuals have to accumlate as much of the nuclei or seeds of Parami as they can within this lifetime. For academic discussion purpose, is it the reason why retreat normally is at least 7 days duration? This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 02:31 PM |
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Jan 20 2012, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 20 2012, 02:36 PM) great info there. Well isn't that good if one becomes stream enterer? so happy la... next life enjoice sure go heaven or become human....uhmm... not sure about that. but my friend told me it's because beginners will need at least 2-3days to 'settle down'. 4th-7th day is where the real work begins. i did however heard from my teacher who said that according to a sayadaw from a meditation center said that some yogis did achieve 'enlightenment' during the 7th day and these yogis became so withdrawn from society that they cant function like they'd normally would in society. hence, one or two (not sure) went back and asked for the robes. But I agree with you. Some individuals may have problem in their sex life too.. because their sensual desire is so much reduced already after they attain Magga or even Jhanas. |
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Jan 20 2012, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 20 2012, 02:58 PM) It is good. for me, i'm scared of hell, heaven and even enlightenment although i know i'm far from it. the irony Me too man. I scared my evil kamma will mature to put me to apayalokas (no choice lor if happen). i have a problem with lust, how to solve?  cry: have you tried 32 parts of body? and the asubhas (rotting coarpses) 32 parts is very good but cannot do so often.... This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 03:03 PM |
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Jan 20 2012, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 20 2012, 03:06 PM) 32 parts yes. asubhas no. 32 parts is tricky coz when i get to the 'lungs' part, guess what happen? wow. there were a few times i wish i'm asexual, no gender. yeah i know, mindfucuking Can share how to do 32 parts? I do the surface only. Haven't tried going into the deeper organs... I heard do too much can make aura become very dark... This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 03:34 PM |
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Jan 20 2012, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(mysa_strato @ Jan 20 2012, 03:48 PM) hello fellow Buddhists, what is Jhanas or Magga/Phala? Helo mysa,Jhanas is mystic stage of deep mental concentration. Magga is a special consciousness that arises in the mind that destroys defilements permanently. Phala is the after-effect of magga. |
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Jan 20 2012, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(buysellaccount @ Jan 20 2012, 03:55 PM) extra note: jhana is very achievable, please try it. won't take a lifetime too, a year will do even if you believe you're 'untalented.' I haven't actually tried 100% into the samatha practice but I heard that one need seclusion and 8 precepts. Actually I am not good at vipassana too.  haih, sad This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 04:02 PM |
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Jan 20 2012, 04:15 PM
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I quite regular ler but still don't see much result. OK, results maybe got in having more saddha (faith) and the path I am walking. Less anxiety. Maybe more understanding of buddhism.
But vipassana nanas or jhanas no wor - maybe i am dihetuka ler? 2 good roots only ? woootHow do you guys practice? can share? Like how often go retreat, meditate, dhamma lessons , go do dana etc? maybe i am not doing something right.... But I do admit, I watch a lot of porn and play lots of video games... is that a hindrance to progress? This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 04:18 PM |
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Jan 20 2012, 04:20 PM
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dear all,
do you think watching porn/masturbating and playing video games is not good for cultivation of the mind? Is that a hindrance to nanas and the concentration? This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 04:22 PM |
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Jan 20 2012, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 20 2012, 04:22 PM) Yess. they r addictions and they create negative imprints in our mind. oh crap but how does one live without any sexual outlet? About Jhanas , I heard sex destroys it and it's very hard to maintain. This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 04:24 PM |
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Jan 20 2012, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jan 20 2012, 04:34 PM) that's why the Buddha only renounced after he has a child. I heard that Jhanas is very hard to maintain. Must nurse like a baby. Break a bit of precept or indulge in some sensual pleasures, it's gone. just joking okay.  Those people that can get into the jhanas  very powderful mind. This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 04:39 PM |
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Jan 20 2012, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jan 20 2012, 04:44 PM) but you have to understand that fighting in the name of religion, and fighting in the name of civil rights, greed etc. are totally different things. wars in the name of Buddhism are really really little compared to the likes of islam and christianity where they still fight until this day and time. buddhist scriptures banyak banyaki think the translating part were done by scholars and not the monk alone. he'd need at least 2-3 life times before he can translate all the scriptures. This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 20 2012, 04:53 PM |
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Jan 21 2012, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(hackwire @ Jan 20 2012, 09:43 PM) yin and yang is tao teaching right? does buddhism touch on this as well? i understood that buddhism ask to learn about death because according to steve job, we learn more about the beauty of living but very little on death but once we begin to understand death, the world u use to see it will be different and u begin to appreciate life more as one cannot see the suffering until when it approach them. Ying yang is tao. Buddhism tara.Death contemplation is one of the meditation subject. See yourself dying... etc.. |
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Jan 26 2012, 10:21 AM
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Jan 30 2012, 03:18 PM
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good afternoon. How's everyone's new year celebration?
Today is the Ninth day of lunar new year, some people worship Jade emperor. Isn't that Lord Sakka in Buddhism?  The one with 4 faces is a brahma, normally depicted to have 4 faces to represent the four stations of a brahma. Lord Sakka , the king of the gods is depicted beside the Brahma. This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jan 30 2012, 03:28 PM |
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Jan 31 2012, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE(pandah @ Jan 30 2012, 09:50 PM) jade emperor is a buddha/bodhisatva? i tot he is the taoism god ? In buddhism, there is a similar deity called Sakka or Indra. He is the king of the gods that resides in Tavatimsa heaven. He is a sotapanna (stream-enterer) after the Buddha preached to him the Dhamma.Maybe Tiangong (king of the gods) in Chinese tradition is referring to him? |
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Jan 31 2012, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jan 31 2012, 11:10 AM) Lol for me i don't really give a damn where these gods originated or whatsoever la.. just listen to what the pioneers say.. ask for toto number |
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Feb 23 2012, 08:36 AM
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Great disciples of the Buddha
Sariputta - Foremost in Wisdom Moggallana - Foremost in Supernatural Powers Maha-Kassapa - Foremost in Ascetic Practices Upali - Foremost in Keeping the Precepts Ananda - Foremost in Hearing Many Teachings Rahula - Foremost in Quietly Doing Good Anuruddha - Foremost in Divine Insight Kaccayana - Foremost in Explaining the Dharma Subbhuti - Foremost In Understanding the Doctrine of the Void Punna-Mantaniputta - Foremost in Teaching the Dharma This post has been edited by soul2soul: Feb 23 2012, 08:38 AM |
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Feb 23 2012, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE(vanpersie91 @ Feb 23 2012, 08:39 AM) Good morning to every Buddhist here Good morning !May today be a peaceful day in the world , inside and outside. |
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