Mecha works brilliant against zerg. Hellion to harrass and map control (kill off zergling)... Thor and Tank to push out... 1st time I can laugh at baneling

When is the greatest mystery of terran will be unveiled?

mech is the way to go against traditional mutaling. Thor can punish those mutalisk, hunting down overlord and drinking acid spray from baneling like coconut drink So far 8 games against mutaling zerg, only lose 1 game due to super FE of zerg

Must be continuously pressure so we got the time to tech up on our side.


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Any idea? Dominion forces need help.

The problem is that I can't see a working solution for TvP in the late game.
I wanna go into history if you guys are not familiar with SCBW. Protoss traditionally have been a strong late game races since SCBW days. But during that days, Terran have got a tough SIEGE TANK to defend ground army. Protoss have to get Arbiter to Froze split the Tank line and HT to storm the tank.On the Terran part, we have to make sure the EMP goes off from Science Vessel. Protoss too have the Reaver for long range attack. That is when you will say come down to ur micro.

In SC2, Immortal can just ram in to the siege line like nothing is gonna happen. Ghost is very vulnerable and yet bcos it is a ground army, he have to some how "get of the way" of other units (not like SCBW science vessel which fly around freely) and that somehow slowing down the EMP. By the time Ghost reach the front line, usually Siege Tank have been completely taken out d.

I was so shock during my 1st game of SC2 seeing whole bunch of Protoss army engaging directly with my Tank. I'm thinking "wtf, is this Protoss Noob? He engage my Siege Tank directly with the vision of Xel'naga Tower. Is just a few seconds later I realize my Tank line completely destroyed and I have to GG with dumbfounded expression on me watching the score screen.

That will be a very gas heavy build. Might work in super late game, gotta build PF across the map just to gather gas though. But other problem might arise like it will be a tough task to defend the expansion from high mobility protoss army with ghost+mech.



p.s.the only good things bout SC2 tanks compare to SC1 is just the mobility of SC2 tanks. SC1 tank can hardly move over a narrow choke. SC2 tanks kill it's own unit lesser because the damage of SC2 tanks is reduce to just half of SC1 tanks.

cool.. i m 2 per week

but the fact is Marine is too strong against VR. Somebody do a VR rush on me after seeing me go Marauder Heavy

and he quit QQing as my Marine kills it while my Marauder sitting down the tree enjoy the show

This post has been edited by jeffvip: Apr 11 2011, 04:56 PM

yo. dying tread...

Come we discuss bout TvT. Recently I have tried out one of the build that keep me winning bout 7-1 streak. I go for delayed Banshee. Usually I intentionally let my T opponent scout my 2rax FE. The will be thinking they r safe 2 expand or goin for a harassment. I will build 2 turret if I scout a banshee or 3 bunker if I scout early pressure. My opponent will just ignore the fact that I will be goin Clocked Banshee since I do FE and that absolutely rapes them. By then I will have both the economy and army.Do a timing attack after that with tanks+marine. Conventional Tank-Viking-Marine totally owned by this build.

I'm not sure whether this build work in Masters but I do beat a few Diamond Terran with this build

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This post has been edited by jeffvip: Apr 30 2011, 01:18 PM

Cool, be careful of my delayed banshee ya. How come you notice me 1. So coincident. Kinda sad I m now holidaying, can't play starcraft. Miss my banshee girl d.

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Added on May 1, 2011, 1:57 amDelayed banshee have got only 1 purpose and that is to disturb the timing of tank marine viking & 111 build. So playing with delayed banshee, grabbing the window of opportunity is very important. If I play a lill bit indecisive when I saw that window, I will lose the game (that 8-"1"). That's the 1 game that I lose.

Quest, my micro of banshee not that good. Maybe lucky bcos my opponent don't have turret for that few games I played.

This post has been edited by jeffvip: May 1 2011, 01:57 AM

I know this feeling of losing to mass banshees build. It's sux. I never produce mote than 3 banshees but against quest I got no choice but to do that.

Erm, btw. Did u float ur cc to his base and start build an e bay there? I think u got higher chance to win bcos of his all in build won't save him enough money for another cc

Use ghost more, build ghost academy b4 factory

I feel this 1 kinda Malaysian politics to me. In another tread, Evo was throwing us the fact that in Korean server, Terran dominates Protoss and ask T to shut the mouth up. But in fact, we r losing here in SEA. Is just like UMNO saying all Chinese is rich, throw us the fact that there r more millionaires of Chinese compare to other races and we shldnt get the benefit of government jobs, scholarship, matriculation,5% discount house buying, etc. While the fact yes there are alot of rich Chinese like Lim family, but how bout us as a typical working chinese. We got no government support, no rich family background and forced to do things the hard way and well, need to shut up. We too need to vote for them (BN) if not, we r called ungrateful.

PS: I didnt mean anything negative bout Evo. Just that the feeling suddenly rush up

Alright, alright. Let's go back to happier things. SC2. I think I'm luckier, I meet alot less P so I can improve my MMR alot and gain promotion. If I happened to meet P, then I might be stay on my league forever without getting promoted. 100 food is the mark for me, make it or break it. Usually I will lose to P if I can find a suitable timing attack when i m in 100 and the game drag on. Thinking of goin BC but usually too late as the P army will break in. I likes the dynamics of the game, earlier I was struggle against TvT, then TvZ, now TvP...

cool... u have played my 1 months game in just 2 days. I was thinking bout this question too... A map with a small ram I think Tank is the way to go. Force toss army come down the Ram. I might wanna try TvT style against Protoss army now.. Marine+tank+raven/ghost

I was thinking to use ghost to kill of zealot. Since ghost do xtra damage to light unit. Ghost to emp and stay behind to slain those zealot. But that is alot of micro required thus maybe is not that practical. Or maybe blue flame hellion in front of tank + marine. Those are all mineral cost only units. might be possible.

Do u got a strong Protoss partner to train with? I might ask my random race friends to help me but he is more of a zerg based so I didnt have a good P training partners actually.

Calvin, if u beat him, we dont have to QQ here d...

Transition games is always Terran biggest weakness, just hope our Tanks can do wonder against collossus

Just finish the most intense TvT of my lifetime. 54 minutes. All mineral almost finish. My opponent (Diamond Terran) is playing Bio, heavy Medivacs with Thor and Tanks mix in it & dropping everywhere. I was more a typical Tanks Marine after delayed banshee (always ). Catching my opponent out of position and I siege up at his production facility. GG. I never enjoyed this game so much. My TvT now stand at 10:1 d. I do feel I really improve as the old time I will usually crumple in TvT pressure and gg earlier.



Btw, another TvT I played earlier I saw the use of Ghost in early games and it is very effective in the early game, luckily my banshee save my ass to keep his scv as low as mine. I was planning to try early ghost build as ghost become even more cost efficient in patch 1.3.3.

This post has been edited by jeffvip: May 4 2011, 11:01 PM

yup... argh lose to Protoss again... damn damn i have been 3-0 by Toss this 2 days

yup, waiting for the patch to kick in... then we go Ghost build....

Protoss really kick my ass hard... lose 2 more games... FF, DT and then GG

The timing window is important here. b4 tank is out... I think the fastest tank will be around 6 min mark but without siege mode. rush ghost and attack the base at 7min is workable imo

Calvin playing now? oh... but my TvT strategy already shown here. T.T
Early tank pressure is the hard counter to FE delayed banshee BO