pure gateway? putting urself on an auto BO lost to cloak banshee

When mmm vs zealot, sentries and stalker. Which unit usually u target fire 1st?

bro~ sentry only cost 100 gas
stalker while cost 50 gas

cost the most gas in gate unit is HT 150 gas 2nd is dt 125 gas =.=a

What is this? R u sure u comment the right things on the right thread?

This is a strategy thread. Protoss have the advantage when it comes to mid or late game. Strategically, terran would like to avoid, not what qq or pp. so in order to maximise the chance of winning, terran gotta do an early game push. What we discuss is in the correct path d. That conversation bout protoss strong at mid n late game is to enhance the needs of prioritize the killing of early game protoss unit that are vital for us to win game.

why dun u go use protoss for a week n see how strong is the race in mid n late game n do some drops with toss

Hmm.. excuse me but why Quaza? lolwtfbbq.

There's something in this thread that just bugs me. People keep insisting that whatever they are saying is the definitive FACT and everything else that people say is WRONG.

Why not? This is a human strategy thread. Getting laid is one of the human strategy. U know I Agreed with u that marauder is the strongest early game unit d right? Then op terran discussion finished d.

I have no interest to see what's evo is writing also bcos I confirmed what he write is certain the opposite of what I wrote here, so do I need to continue that conversation anymore? Better spending my time to get laid tonight

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Added on June 29, 2011, 11:27 pm

because clearly i remember perfectly well of a unit's statistics that i... almost never use. right?

first of all, why is it not about unit stats? a pricing of a unit should also be included as a unit stats because duh its a part of statistics?
if you can even ignore that, fine, then why is it OK to not know about the statistics of a unit (in ur case dmg/armor/hp etc excluding pricing), and suddenly its NOT OK on the price of a unit, that i RARELY EVER USE?

if i dont use a particular unit, why must i remember every precise detail (be it statistics and/or pricing, or rather just statistics sigh), or in particularly, its cost, when it is suddenly OK to forget whatever the hell it does? (how much pew pew it can dish out?)

i mean, i know the warp gate cooldown nerf is promoting heavy sentries before warp tech is done. but quite frankly, im not following those build trends. i dont follow to pro build orders, i just do whatever the hell i like. i've stated clearly, that i know i will lose games, and i am FINE losing those games if it really came down to not building x amount of y units just because its the pro thing to do and not doing it will mean auto lose. (which, isn't the case as i dont have 100% lose rate either)

if you still cant understand, here, let me repeat:
you can go ALL DAY about your pro builds, pro play, pro macro, pro micro, however you have to realize, NOT EVERYONE are GSL players, NOT EVERYONE WANTS to play super pro, and certainly NOT EVERYONE CAN play pro despite knowing pro stuff (pro build order pro whatever)

you want to question my credibility just because i mess up how much gas a sentry cost, wouldn't you think by now this damn forum (god forbid the world) knows that i could give a rat's ass about sentries despite seeing how pro tester or pro MC can do with it?

hell, what am i even arguing anyways? jeff asked a question, i provided an answer. it was as simple as that until you guys decide to show your pro 1337 skillz at the same time neglecting on the main point, or rather, the main question that was being asked. now how pro does that make you? giving out pointless ramblings when someone (jeff in this case) doesnt even want to hear, versus just answering him what he wanted? at the end of the day he still wont see you as a pro regardless which path you choose, and as a matter of fact you aren't a pro gamer either. so really, why the hell would you bother?

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Added on June 30, 2011, 12:28 am

no, i'm afraid i wouldn't be the person you're looking for

well, if you want nice places to have a drink, changkat would be among the first place to lookout for. many beautiful girls, ladies, local or foreign. and plentiful of alchohol be it wine, cocktails, or beer to suit your taste

did i say using sentry makes you GSL level? hell did i even mention the word "guardian skill"? (considering how you like to nitpick my error of 50 gas)

again, let me explain it to you once more since you cannot grasp it:
I RARELY, BUILD SENTRIES.
I KNOW I WILL LOSE GAME
I KNOW I WILL BE FOREVER BRONZE
BUT FOR GOD'S SAKE, THAT IS MY PROBLEM.

clear enough?

and hell, you're talking about protoss strategy in a terran thread? and you ACCUSE others of derailing?
my god.

and for the record anyways, if i play chess, and i dont want to use the god damn rook, that is MY chess game, and thats MY god damn decision. whatever you do won't affect me if i decided that i'm not gonna use the god damn rook.

^
no one said it was you accusing me either.

and believe me, im perfectly chill. else i would've done full caps and go apeshit all over the boards. then as a final closure i would just report everyone who's involved including myself and we can all have a nice happy closure party. dig?

and really, still trying to nitpick for an error that's even irrelevant in the first damn place?
ps: you should really take up your own advice.

Sorry but your guess is wrong. Here comes it.
or this
or this
All hail the quote king.

no, i havent try this build recently. although i did this for a few weeks last year. it was a very old build, the tasteless build. its too all inish i stop doing that for a long time. i would love to juggle around with the 2 base build though...if i can 1 rax FE safely....

my problem in tvp now is how to survive protoss aggression in eco build with minimal damage. and how to transition to ANY build other than marauder viking lol

its up to micro ALOT and cant let protoss create the BALL no matter its a gateway ball or robo ball or wtv ball. protoss synergy is too good.

TBH this build largely depends on map. It works wonder on maps like Backwater Gulch, after P has expanded to his natural, where you can put your tanks at the low ground (Protoss natural there), gain vision using Banshees, and all your other units are safe due to the rocks. This will force an engagement from the P. Famous build on map Crossfire SE too.

On the contrast, on XNC this build is not so effective.

for me XNC's problem is rush distance too short, its one of the cheesiest map in the pool currently, (ignoring slut pit)

yeah, to all in then stop a round of production to expand, then when ur opponent shout at you, you say you are expanding to play a macro game. /silence/ but its a very efficient way to win ladder points. KR ladder is full wif all in shits.
it NVR work in real life. cuz patrol will only be efficient when theres baneling ONLY. if there are speedling on the field, ur marines wont split out, they will just stand there in a clump.

p/s which level are you in? after my recent exam, i tried very hard to get back to my previous level but no chance, still stuck at 20.

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Added on July 1, 2011, 8:13 amthe low ground engagement is fking sick....in TvZ n TvP....like maps like shakuras plataue. it really is a pain in the ass when siege tank siege up at your nat, then put 2 bunkers to protect the siege tank....when u have only lings and baneling.

when u have medivac (normally off 2 base), can even do elavator in taldarim altar and shakuras beside ur mineral line. if you do not have spire ready, its almost insta gg....(or spine crawler ready b4 they reach)

but if terran is doing siege tank based contain via 1 base, their reinforcement line is weak, so just pick off reinforcements at the middle of the map, when you think you have enuf, surround and bust wif ur drone/probes. for medivac tank marine elavator its much harder as you need to have good muta and ling contorl/...

but the feeling after defending these pushes are fking good. feel very /nesteaish/

1 hit kil immortal/colosus

HAHAHA for 111 MMM

anyway the best counter for 3 rax play is pure marine combat shield. rapes marauder