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post Nov 18 2010, 01:21 PM

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Since there is no commitment, no contract and no expiry, it would be good to keep one handy in your drawer for when your Streamyx/Celcom/P1 craps out on you.

You can keep it in red box on your wall with sign that says "In Case Of Emergency, Break Glass". cool2.gif

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post Nov 18 2010, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(chris2k @ Nov 18 2010, 01:33 PM)
But you still have to invest in their device.... isn't it cheaper to use present 3G services in case of emergency? Just get a weekly plan etc and you're set.
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Yes (damn, now I can't use the word "yes" without worrying people think I'm referring to YES.) it's cheaper till you can't access it for whatever reason, then you want something to fall back on and since there's no commitment and no expiry, it makes a good back-up. Right?
Just don't forget where you left the dongle.


Added on November 18, 2010, 2:13 pm
QUOTE(soul2soul @ Nov 18 2010, 02:03 PM)
Too bad Iphone does not support Wimax at the moment.

I wonder what sort of device  YTL will be offering.
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Does the Buzz phone look like the Samsung Gravity to you?

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post Nov 18 2010, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Nov 18 2010, 02:39 PM)
hey guys by the way its 9sen/3MB not 1MB so its 3sen/MB even cheaper than the current cheapest Tune Talk of 5sen/MB
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But probably measured in 3MB block.
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post Nov 18 2010, 09:27 PM

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What happened to "No Commitment"?

Note that it says at the bottom of the middle column of the following page that you have to maintain a monthly usage of RM30.

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post Nov 18 2010, 10:33 PM

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We really need to merge the two main YES threads.

The other one
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post Nov 18 2010, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(whistler @ Nov 18 2010, 11:12 PM)
@ totally_skint i was thinking the same thing too BUT all is not as it seems...min monthly spend of rm30 required...

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Yup. I saw that after my post.
Boo! Hiss!

Nice screenshot. That page is down for the moment.
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post Nov 19 2010, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(aneip @ Nov 18 2010, 11:41 PM)
RM30 minimun usage seems contradict with everything else, such as reload that never expired, pay as you use as water and electricity.

What happen if no reach RM30? need to buy again? what happen to reload which never expired?
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This would be like Tenage or JBA charging you RM100 whether you use water/electricity or not.


QUOTE(Forum-Modding Newb @ Nov 18 2010, 11:53 PM)
Buying credit online? How do I go online to buy credit when I have zero credit left?
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Use your bank or credit card of course.
Where got buy reload credit with reload credit.
If you can figure out such method, then no need to work anymore. tongue.gif

QUOTE(Forum-Modding Newb @ Nov 19 2010, 12:12 AM)
So if there are 4 people using the Mifi or Zoom, everyone's PC gets a pop-up? What if I disable pop-ups? If I am connected via Wifi, how does the device know how to push a pop-up to my browser? Or will all browsing stop and everyone's browser go to a reminder page? What if I don't have any browser but using a non-browser program to use the internet (like internet radio via winamp)? Or is it an SMS to a phone number? What if I don't have a mobile phone? Doesn't sound right.

Ugh. I can imagine, top up RM10, watch HD Youtube for half an hour, receive reminder to top up. Put another RM10, watch another 30 min HD Youtube, pop-up another reminder to top-up.  shakehead.gif

I wonder how they going to sell their Sezmi IP TV, when a 2 hour 30 min HD movie costs more than RM70-RM90+ in bandwidth cost. And that's not yet including the price you pay for the movie itself. Ouch.
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Not pop-up on your browser but simply email notification.
Or SMS on your Buzz phone.

Logical that Sezmi IPTV will be charged by package and not count as data usage.
However your own PPS "iptv" will be charged data rates just like watching Youtube.

QUOTE(Boy96 @ Nov 19 2010, 02:08 AM)
maybe YES is good for backup broadband, so when your main internet goes down, u use this
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Not at RM30 monthly commitment.

BTW, Buzz phone won't be of much use in Singapore or anywhere outside Malaysia.
So you still need to maintain another phone (and another celco service) if you travel overseas.
After all you can't be expected to lug a booted up laptop/netbook around to receive calls on the go can you?

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Nov 19 2010, 03:07 PM)
You can still make calls from overseas if your device allows an internet connection to be routed back to Yes Life servers.

Similar to a Skype app or Google Voice.

When people call you you must stay connected to the internet and turn on your device to receive the calls from anywhere.

The conditions here is you must have an ACTIVE net connection for standby.

Not call phones can but most smartphones nowadays allow apps to be installed. You need to install the correct app and settings in your smartphone for this to happen. Everything is IP based in a pure data network.
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I'm not familiar with running an active app on your smartphone but wouldn't using something Skype-like on your phone round the clock to receive incoming calls eat up your batteries?
Furthermore, using an app on your regular smartphone means two subscribing to two mobile BB service?
One from your regular celco and the other one is YES. - $$$
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post Nov 19 2010, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Nov 19 2010, 04:24 PM)
The smartphone was invented for this very reason.Net surfing on the move such as your iPhone. The battery was designed to withstand long hours of internet connectivity or always-on/connect when required.
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Thanks for the info.

QUOTE(iipohbee @ Nov 19 2010, 03:07 PM)
You can still make calls from overseas if your device allows an internet connection to be routed back to Yes Life servers.

Similar to a Skype app or Google Voice.

When people call you you must stay connected to the internet and turn on your device to receive the calls from anywhere.

The conditions here is you must have an ACTIVE net connection for standby.

Not call phones can but most smartphones nowadays allow apps to be installed. You need to install the correct app and settings in your smartphone for this to happen. Everything is IP based in a pure data network.
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I get how VOIP works but I was referring to the situation you stated above about receiving calls on your smartphone app.
Unless that smartphone is from YES you would have to subscribe to another BB service to allow your YES app to receive calls.
And YES devices won't work outside Malaysia.
Hence two subscriptions.

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post Nov 19 2010, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Nov 19 2010, 07:09 PM)
The app can be installed with any phone running on various type of OSes such as Android, Apple iOS or Symbian if they have competent software team.

It is true you can't use their devices outside Malaysia but remember that their services is using userid/password to login. You'll just need to login on your app just like any other IM apps and then leave it on the background.It can be just like your Skype, Google and MSN account.

All you need is just a internet connection. Launch the app on your laptop/smartphone, connect to the internet, logon, leave it on at the background and wait for your call.
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My point being if you use it on your non-YES smartphone like the iphone that means two service subscription.
One for YES and the other to (eg.) iPhone on Maxis or Digi.
Not practical-lah.
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post Nov 19 2010, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Nov 19 2010, 07:19 PM)
1 single account will do. There are lots of hotspots and free net access overseas at public places such as airport, malls as such.
If that is the case you just pay for calls using Yes and probably some data charges which exceed 1GB if moderately used. If it's a free hotspot u pay nothing.

Its' still WAY cheaper than mobile roaming.I take that you have not used mobile roaming before. The calls can cost you RM10-20 per minute.
Those who live at country borders will know these situation when they accidentally make calls when connected to partnering countries mobile networks.
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Then your non-YES smartphone won't ring unless you connect to the hotspot first. sad.gif
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QUOTE(ks98 @ Nov 19 2010, 08:40 PM)
No, you can't... at this moment, you need to use their own device coz there's no sim card for YES...
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It's not a matter of a sim card, the technology is completely different.
It's like trying to listen to FM on your shortwave radio.
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QUOTE(tytung @ Nov 19 2010, 08:19 PM)
NO. P1 home Plus (1.2Mbps) is RM99 for 20GB. And I normally finish 20GB per month.
By the way, the pricing for Yes 4G is :
first 2.5GB  - 3 sen per MB
2.5GB to 3GB - 2.64 sen per MB
3GB to 4GB  -  2.25 sen per MB
4GB or more will be charged 2.10 sen per MB

So 20GB is 75 + 13.2 + 22.5 +336 = 446.7, about 4.5 times of the price of P1 home plus.
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If you use 20GB in one month, it's 2.10 sen for the whole 20GB.
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Today's Dilbert.
Perfect timing or what?

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post Nov 19 2010, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(s2000c @ Nov 19 2010, 10:00 PM)
rm30/month commitment ? i cant log in to the website, anyone can paste here? tq
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QUOTE(Evenlight @ Nov 19 2010, 10:29 PM)
yes how does it work? I have my iphone do I need t buy a new 4G device?
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Yes. You can't use your iPhone directly, only through wifi to YES mifi device.
And even then you will need a (non-existent) YES app to receive calls.
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post Nov 19 2010, 11:36 PM

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If it weren't for the minimum RM30 usage condition, I'd sign up right now.

Why do they need a minimum usage anyway?
You'd think they would want as many subscribers as possible.
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post Nov 20 2010, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Nov 19 2010, 11:42 PM)
RM30 commitment if you use for voice calls is still way cheaper than DiGi's SmartPlan or DG30
With only 9cents/min, they make a good voice package plan even at RM30.

What say?
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I don't use 30 bucks a month.
And I only need mobile broadband as emergency backup.
I prefer our existing celco's extended validity options.


Added on November 20, 2010, 5:25 pm
QUOTE(aneip @ Nov 20 2010, 12:58 AM)
Can see the problem there.. If you finish your credit, cannot go online and reload... Just like old dialup...
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I think if finish credit you can go online but only view reload page.

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QUOTE(Dixon93 @ Nov 20 2010, 01:48 PM)
hey izzt only me or everyone receiving spams mails from them?
they keep send the same launched mail to me more than 6-7 times..
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Everytime they reboot their overloaded servers, an email get sent out.
That's why you got so many email. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(abdul22 @ Nov 20 2010, 11:34 PM)
Ramboo, from the website, your figures are correct. However, there is a rebate on the 3MB plan taking it to 2.25 sen/MB -- but, this is still 22.50 RM per GB download. Perhaps YES will be good for very light users. I will keep my Unifi.
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Why don't they just give one flat rate like 2.3 sen per MB for example and be done with the rebates?
So much for simplicity. doh.gif
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QUOTE(abubin @ Nov 21 2010, 02:22 AM)
The business model is good by going for people who are not "heavy users". However it will totally fail. Because nobody monitor or know how to monitor their internet usage. Of course people will go for those with unlimited usage that use subtle rules to block out heavy users in the fair usage policy. Cause Malaysians only see what's laid out in front of them.
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I think you can palce a "cap" on your usage somyou don't go overboard.

QUOTE(ihsan @ Nov 21 2010, 02:59 AM)
Oh well, we can always wait for the complaints to appear next week. Maybe mcmc can knock some sense into them when the piles of angry mobs start descending.
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If MCMC had any sense, HSBB wouldn't have been given to TM in the first place.

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