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 Nokia N900 V4 (More than 100 owners), Where tablet meets mobile phone

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Eiraku
post Aug 19 2010, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(ShrugsLova @ Aug 19 2010, 11:35 PM)
Not way of ressurruction?(did i spell right?)
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No way to resurrect. Will send it to Nokia HQ in Berjaya Plaza for one last hurrah attempt (Comsat will just spinkle water on it and say "water damage, cannot repair"), though things look mighty slim.

It's been a wonderful 3 months spent with the N900 and Maemo and you wonderful guys here at the LYN N900 thread, really.

Though I will be hanging around here from time to time (the E71 thread is slow lol), expect me to lose touch with new updates in the world of Maemo as time goes by - now that I'm deviceless.

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post Aug 19 2010, 11:51 PM

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@firstknight: I voided my own warranty repairing the slider. Thought that the N900 would live longer than 3 months lol. As for the Otterbox, let me try to repair at Zitron AND publish the review first, can?

QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Aug 19 2010, 11:46 PM)
You're gonna force them to change the motherboard?
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Lol, I did that already at Sunway. They did and they said it still wouldn't work lol (supposedly). But Nokia Care Sunway is a franchised service centre. Let's see if Zitron (who runs the Plaza Berjaya outfit) can do any better.

Anyway, more leaks up, dunno if it's old but I reckon it comes from the last Nokia Meego inside presentation (the one that Engadget leaked and said NO MORE SYMBIAN FOR N-SERIES):

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Originally Posted by Michael-Dallas
The latest I've heard:

- penta-band
- 12MP/Dual LED
- 64GB
- Capacitive touch

No confirmation on QWERTY. I would assume "no" because of capacitive touch screen.


In addition to above,

- RM-690 (I'm not 100% sure, but fairly certain it's 690)
- quad-band/penta-band (so it will support every 3G band under the sun like the N8)
- 720p HD recording
- 4" 16:9 capacitive multi-touch screen
- about 0.5-1.0 centimeters thinner than N900 (I forgot if he said 0.5 or 1.0, LOL)
- 13x0 mAh battery (I forget to check, but I suspect the display to be OLED and I was told battery life is expected to be better than N900)

Like I said, the specs are incomplete so there may be small changes/additions before launch.

Now, shockingly (or not shockingly) there will be another MeeGo device, known as "Lankku." I was not able to see specs, much less get much info on it.

Another shocker... one of these devices may be launched towards the end of this year and the other around 2Q-3Q 2011. I forget which one, but I'm pretty sure the goal is to launch Dali at the end of this year.

I got to see a Maemo 5 app in alpha phase called "Smart Search." Pretty damn nifty. It'll end up in Ovi Store, but I don't know when.

I am hesitant to say this because I do not want to start an uproar or negative speculation, but Maemo 6/MeeGo will have some interesting changes, namely Nokia has decided to limit the amount of personalization on the homescreens to make it easier and simpler for general consumers to use. These are my words and how I remember and interpret the info.

Slightly off-note, I saw an interesting blurb about 64GB Samsung flash and 64GB Toshiba flash. Apparently, one was faster than the other, but was more expensive (I'll let you guys guess ). Also saw an interesting blurb on one of the MeeGo devices passing 100,000 chassis flexes and almost surviving a drop. And yet another one about a phone passing a heat test, but the screws turning brown afterwards, LOL.

Yes, I probably should have paid more attention, but it was too much info and I was hungry.

One last thing... I would certainly appreciate it if this info is not propogated (at least my posts not referenced). I do not want to lose a friend that I consider dear to me should this gets tracked back to him.

///Michael


If it is AMOLED, NOW we know why HTC had to switch to SLCD. Nokia just bought up all the AMOLED panels in the world and stocked them lol.

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post Aug 20 2010, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(ShrugsLova @ Aug 20 2010, 12:19 AM)
so it's not the warranty won't cover, it's you yourself voided the warranty first?
actually what had you done to your N900? Hardcore upgrade and customization?
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Repaired the loose slider, that's about it. Dug my own grave, just lol.

And even if warranty did not cover, I DID ask Nokia Care to repair at ANY cost (was prepared to pay anything) - and still they said it was unrepairable. Same case with my local repair guys.

But even it it died in the same complicated way WITHOUT me doing anything, I'm thinking Comsat (the warranty provider) will just drop some water on the water labels and say "water damage, cannot repair".

They're known to have done that before if something's too hard/costly to repair.

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post Aug 20 2010, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(haushinka @ Aug 20 2010, 12:31 AM)
guys...need your help....my camera dint work...i can snapped a pix but when it tried to load it...it displayed operation failed....is there by anychance to fix it other then flashing the phone back to factory default? i tried to uninstalled the latest apps i download ( i assumed thats the caused of the problem ) but still not working...
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Are you OCed? OCing sometimes does this, go back to the NORMAL settings.
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QUOTE(firstknight @ Aug 20 2010, 07:31 AM)
eiraku... if it is motherboard.. definately cannot repair... cos i sent over also cant repair the USB connector not charging... but replace motherboard...... luckily mine from US... hehe.. took me 2 months plus to get back a NEW REPLACEMENT.... hehe..
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Ugh, two months for a replacement. I'm screwed now lol.

Oh well, hello N9.

Oh and bright pixel = dead pixel = problem. Get a replacement set or claim warranty on the LCD, unless you can live with it lah.
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post Aug 20 2010, 09:32 PM

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Sigh, just sent my N900 to the hospital one last time. Let's see if I have any luck left.
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post Aug 21 2010, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(jananan @ Aug 20 2010, 10:38 PM)
my nokia freak-tablet working like a charm now, tweaked and reduced swap file usage to a bare minimum....

93MB RAM free @ start up, will work further to increase free memory @ fresh boot. any ideas to reduce further ?

freak-tablet behaving weird when swap turned off completely via 'swapoff' command, with more than 90MB RAM available, it complains 'close some programs before opening up another' when i try to start a x-term console - come on, 90MB RAM not enough to start a console window ? - possibly kernel panics for no reason when it sees 0 swap.

next step : will disable swap on emmc and set up swap on micro-sd, autoloaded on every boot... but that will not only increase performance but also increase battery usage since micro-sd uses more power than emmc ? or the other way ? emmc use more power ?

anyway, have to get my class 10 microsd before i can experiment...

PS : all this sweet tweaking & flashing is going to make Eiraku really jealous...
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In one word, EXTREMELY. Here's hoping it can be saved,
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 21 2010, 08:52 AM)
the different is the risk of warranty if u can see into the future ap is worthy if u cant if it breaks down u have to come out big cost like our tai kor tat brick his phone.

ap warranty by some small company

ori warranty by nokia malaysia
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Unfortunately I have to agree with the warranty thing up there.

In my case, IF my N900 wasn't a FREE gift and I was the one who bought it, I would have automatically bought an Original set.

CONSEQUENTLY, if it was an original set, I:

1) Would have never opened it up myself to repair the slider (main reason I did that was the fact that I had little faith in AP service quality).

2) Would have probably gotten a full set replacement after my N900 died afterwards.

THUS: Take my advice, buy original. Our NCC service is NOT shitty like the ones in Brazil (that I have heard) so make full use of them.

Also, I'm under the impression that if anything happens to the mainboard = replacement unit if you bought original. Shame I did not.

But again, I had no control over that now, did I?
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 21 2010, 09:11 PM)
i am sorry about your unluckyness maybe your love for linux wanted u to push further
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LOL... I guess. I always push my gadgets hard to begin with. Guess it's about time something broke.
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Aug 21 2010, 09:24 PM)
So no lesson learned from this fiasco?
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I wouldn't say no lesson learned. For one, it reinforces the importance of buying Original for me.

But with nobody really telling me which specific part is broken, I can't really formulate any methods and plans to keep it from happening again.

And something like "no more nodding and hacking" is just plain sad for a habitual modder like me.

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post Aug 22 2010, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(lipasbunuhdiri @ Aug 22 2010, 01:00 AM)
hi there..
its has been a great 4 months with my n900. never had any problem with it although i oc it to 850mhz......until today sad.gif

went traveling with my buddies to melaka today,and i want to show off the power of maemo's Sygic gps to them..

but then, after i opened the apps, locked by the satellite already, i want to click the 'navigate to' icon, but everytime i clicked on that icon, the apps will immediately shut down itself and straight back to the desktop..
so malu weh doh.gif
anyone of you here had similiar problem with Sygic before? what should i do? uninstall and install it?
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Have you installed any extra POIs for Sygic? I know Sygic crashes with corrupted POIs.
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QUOTE(gyianz @ Aug 22 2010, 05:47 PM)
The price ranges from 1.2k to 1.3k.. and if ORI set, can i get it fixed back in penang?
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Yes, you can get it fixed at any Nokia Care Centers. Check the list at the Nokia website (or just google "Nokia care malaysia").
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@andy: I did? Can't remember edi, lol.
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QUOTE(jananan @ Aug 25 2010, 03:24 PM)
try this

Kernel Tweaking - linux swap usage

'sudo gainroot'
cd /etc/init.d/

open rcS in leafpad or any text editor
scroll all the way down until you see

'echo 100 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness'

change it to

'echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness'


then add these few lines directly below it

'echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_expire_centisecs'
'echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs'
'echo 60 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_background_ratio'
'echo 95 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_ratio'


Changes implemented with these values -

- most importantly, battery life will get slightly better, but for some users you might not see any difference. most programs will stay in RAM when launched and only use swap when necessary.

- secondly you will see some tasks will become faster since eMMC is rarely accessed for swap and this will free up I/O for other tasks. (e.g. playing MP3, video is smoother)

- it will reduce virtual memory usage (linux swap) to a minimum and only use it when absolutely needed, memory full.

- if you multitask like crazy then there will be slight delay when memory pages are moved between the eMMC and RAM. this is normal
PS :

note 1- please record down all original values and changes that you made

note 2 - you need to reboot to see the changes

note 3 - you can revert back to original setting by editing the same file and using the original values, so write down the original values someplace before editing

note 4 - you also might want to back up the original file in case you are scared that you might screw it up
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Are you intentionally trying to make me cry jananan?

ANDDDDDD, *JENG JENG JENG* IINM Harmattan/Meego^1 Nokia/Maemo 6 is still gonna use MicroB supposedly (there was some posts hinting to that over at TMO). It's the next version that will use the webkit monstrosity.

The build posted on Meego.org is supposedly the basic UX implementation WITHOUT the official Nokia bits (MicroB included).

Supposedly anyway.

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Aug 26 2010, 12:15 AM)
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Still got some issues with the tabbed browsing.

Nokia is really messing with good thing.If it's not broken why fix it?Mozilla based browser is just perfect.Almost all reviewers will say is including iOS hardcore lovers.Why change it to webkit?There's already endless result that showing that webkit based browser just isn't as good.Latest prove is Blackberry OS 6.
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Webkit is good in it's own way. It's lean, mean, modular and thus can be optimised for mobile devices. Gecko (the MicroB engine) renders pages very well desktop-style yes, but it's bloated (and eats RAM and CPU time) due to the fact that Mozilla had grandiose plans on making it able to DO EVERYTHING and the kitchen sink (plus the fact that it's a desktop core to begin with).

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But in the end, IT'S HOW YOU USE the code that matters, and I'm hoping the webkit monstrosity Nokia plans to drop on Meego is a good implementation of - rather than a shoddy copy of Mobile Chrome or Mobile Safari.

More details on Gecko (microB) vs Webkit (Tear/Midori/The NEW Meego Browser) here, for those who'd care to read:
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As for me? I would like to be given a choice, Nokia. I'm greedy and I want both! Preferably with the latest Flash EVEN if I plan to shut it off by default and only use it when needed.

And don't worry guys. AS SOON AS Flash 10 comes out for Meego, some enterprising coder will SURELY backport it back to Maemo 5. They're both compiled for ARM Linux anyhow, rite?

EDIT: Somehow, just to prove a point maybe, I'm suddenly made aware of the fact that my beloved UCWeb/UCBrowser has gone webkit and has turned into UCMobile - complete with l33t RAM sucking skillz (and much improved web rendering + proper javascript/flashlite support).

Man, these people need to go develop for Maemo/Meego rather than continue to stress themselves out with the limited RAM available on Nokia's Symbian phones. Although if they DO succeed, they deserve mountains of respect as even in its buggy, crash-prone form right now UCMobile kicks Opera Mobile's behind simply for being so customizable (Adaptive View FTW).

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 30 2010, 09:55 AM)
Yup, better let them choose what they like. If they bought it because you suggested it, then they will blame you for any problems or if they regret. Besides, because it's not their choice, they usually won't put their heart on the thing, won't spend time to learn, etc. In the end, they blame everything on you.

However, there're some people that are different and they will learn to appreciate and love the thing.

From what I know, there're many Anti-Nokians in Malaysia. Back then, when there isn't much choices around, these people usually jump to SE devices and most of them won't look back, even though the reason they jump is no longer valid (e.g. Sound Quality, Camera, which used to be the strength of SE). It's a fashion/brand thingy, it's a Sony.
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Malaysian mindset:

Nokia = cheap, slow, reliable, uncool.
SE = great music player, good design, great camera.
BB = free messaging (while conveniently ignoring BIS fees), cool and hip (in which dimension really?).
Android = that sexay new shiny thang.
iPhone = answer to all global problems, including world hunger and the kitchen sink. Extremely smexy to boot.

Although nowadays, amongst my friends, I have to fend off more BB fanboys and girls compared to iPhone and Android ones lol.

@drexar: the SGS is a great phone, but has a wonky AGPS system that simply refuses to work (read = gps is broken. Totally). It SHOULD be corrected with the next firmware update, but Samsung is NOTORIOUS for firmware delays (YES, even more then Nokia really).

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 30 2010, 11:13 AM)
Ppl sometimes dont think keep condemning nokia but until today they are still capturing market share. If they are capturing market share i dont see any failure in it
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Even then, everybody can see that they are in the decline lately and they need a mass market game changer to stay a market leader.

Here's hoping that the N8 would truly be their saviour. I like the plucky Finns and Symbian, what can I say.

But, even though Nokia is slightly slow on the innovation side, they are still MILES better then RIM, which - IMHO - has a plainly RETARDED R&D dept for such a supposedly "smart" (and disgustingly popular) series of devices. It has been YEARS and Blackberries are still what they were a few years ago with no real revolutionary advancement.

Sorry. Had to vent lol. My BB worshipping friends are driving me a bit mad.
At least Nokia played around with strange ideas and came up with oddities like the N95, the N-gage (which flopped but was still ahead of its time), the N93, the N91, the E70, the NITs (and Apple thought they INVENTED the mass market internet tablet? Pfft. The Newton was an offline PDA, and that was IT) and a whole lot more.

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Aug 30 2010, 03:52 PM)
Anyway so far they have very2 few cases of truly bricked N900 caused by OC.
Probably the only known such case in Malaysia is Eiraku's case.
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Don't say it like dat, make me sad only.

And like jananan said, my phone bricking might have nothing to do with OCing at all. It might be my experimentations, or it might be something else entirely.

Such a waste nobody knew why it died though, now I won't know what to do to keep it from dying again (except maybe to NOT mod it physically too much).

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QUOTE(aepock @ Aug 31 2010, 01:28 PM)
Guys, i take the plunge to buy emergency charger from one of the forumer.The emergency charger cannot charge n900 initially but after some google-ing....i found a guide to modify the usb cable n now able to charge my n900.it's handy when u run out of battery but whether it posses any long term effect to n900 is unknown.USB cable modifying guide is as below.
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Good guide if you don't have a "DUMB" (power only) usb wire. As for me, chapalang CA-101/100 wires work just as well (only the cheap rubber they use a bit prone to splits), and I have multiple spares from my 2 USB battery packs.

Owh, and the short CA-101 wire works best with a battery pack velcroed to the back of your N900 - it's just right in terms of length.

And it would be fun if the output of that pack is written somewhere. Is it 500ma/5v (charges the N900 reallllly slowly) or 1000ma/5v?

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