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 AMD Radeon™ Discussion V3, Prepare Red! Green has attacked!

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post Sep 29 2010, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Sep 29 2010, 05:05 AM)
so, maybe we can forget 6k, and wait for 7k series?
I just wanna get a card, that dont exceed rm1k, and can get to max settings on MOST games without AA on a mid range cpu.
but for now, holding on to my 4850s
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You could do that. Another option is to look at what the HD 6000 offers at below RM1k. I think in your case, the HD 6770's benchmarks should be considered, as it should have much greater performance than your HD 4850 while running cooler and quieter.
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post Sep 29 2010, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Sep 29 2010, 11:49 AM)
haha if u r still not in a hurry,,,i suggest u wait 4 the 7 series next year...28nm is more yummy than 40nm...more faster n more cooler laugh.gif again that is if u can wait longer...if not then just skip straight 2 the 6 series then icon_rolleyes.gif
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The HD 7000 is probably 12 months away from now. If you can't wait for that long or there are clear benefits to migrate to a HD 6000 now, better to buy as soon as possible to enjoy it longer and sell off the HD 4850 for more second-hand value.
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post Sep 29 2010, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(Piros @ Sep 29 2010, 08:46 PM)
AMD Radeon 6850 and 6870 are go to launch on October 18!

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Replacing the X7XX with the X8XX for no good reason? I am doubting TweakTown so hard. And if it does come to pass, I'm going to have so much hate for AMD.
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post Sep 30 2010, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(huzzLEE_82 @ Sep 30 2010, 03:22 PM)
wonder here is there the same situation if play a game with 5870 on 1920x1080 monitor & LCD/LED TV?

like say 1920x1080 on 25" monitor
versus 1920x1080 on 42" LCD/LED TV

will it b the GC work harder on 42" even on same reso here?
or it just the same output? then wat about 3D mark score?will it differs?
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If the screen resolution is the same, it will work the same. It doesn't matter if it is 24", 32", 42", 50", 108" or even 24 kilometers. Screen size is meaningless when it comes to performance.

It's the reason why I get a little annoyed with people saying 15" this, 19" that, 22" there. If there exists a 15" 1920x1200 monitor, a HD 5670 will not be adequate for maximum graphics quality gaming!

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post Sep 30 2010, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(huzzLEE_82 @ Sep 30 2010, 03:39 PM)
owh ic wat really matters is the resolution....not the size
meaning tat a 26" Asus VK266H with 1920x1200 will push the GC more than 42" LCD with 1080p...
now i know the answer..tq bro notworthy.gif
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You're welcome. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 30 2010, 03:41 PM)
1920x1080 and 1920x1200 just by a little..
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It's not quite a little.

1920x1200 / 1920x1080 = 111%

If a GC can do 60fps on 1920x1080, it will need to be ~11% more powerful to maintain 60fps on a 1920x1200.
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 30 2010, 04:03 PM)
last time maybe.. now 7-6fps different is nothing..
unless who play <30fps need that reso?

most i play 50-60fps.. some even reach 100fps..
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For idiots like me, who plays at 1920x1200 using a HD 5670, it can be an issue. whistling.gif
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post Sep 30 2010, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Sep 30 2010, 07:12 PM)
You're living inside the cave, I can predict it.

Either way, you must be Nvidia Fanboy which want to troll here and piss people off only.
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He already stated he has problems with his HD 3870. No need to predict. tongue.gif

Maxieos, maybe you should consider replacing your HD 3870. Particularly when the HD 6000 arrives. The HD 5670 already outperforms it.
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post Sep 30 2010, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Sep 30 2010, 11:11 PM)
Hi , I give up  , sorry smile.gif , here I apologize for my word saying "why" , so will you accept my apology ?   nod.gif
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His problem is not with the word 'why', so he cannot accept your apology with using the word 'why'.

His problem is with you complaining that "ATI WAS ALWAYS SO HOT" and similar stuff. That is a false statement for current generation of ATI cards. You should apologise for this slander.

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post Oct 2 2010, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Oct 2 2010, 10:17 AM)
Changing the casing won't help as the card is shrouded, Keep aside some budget, wait for the HD6000 series bro. Then get the newest one u like or get the HD5000 series when their price start dropping....
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The problem is that Maxieos requires a GC with S-Video out because of his LCD TV. For him to use either the HD 5000 and HD 6000, he will also need to replace his monitor.
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post Oct 2 2010, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(CyberSundayz @ Oct 2 2010, 10:14 PM)
when full load? 5670 maybe can
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No, it can't. It's doing 54 at load at the moment.
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post Oct 4 2010, 11:17 AM

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Considering that it should be about HD 5870 and HD 5850 performance, that's a nice price.
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post Oct 6 2010, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Oct 4 2010, 11:08 PM)
Yes better specs but dunno performance wise how is it gonna be... just hoping AMD got their drivers right off the batt  biggrin.gif

EDIT--> more HD6000 rumors  biggrin.gif

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/home/rumo...es_october_19th
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Only a paper release! cry.gif
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post Oct 10 2010, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Oct 8 2010, 08:58 PM)
I still wonder why everyone so worries with the branding thinggy?

Just get over it since we just want the performance sleep.gif
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Because AMD didn't need to do such a frivolous thing in response to Nvidia's marketing. Imho, they could have gone about normally by sticking with HD 6750 and HD 6770 as was expected and nobody will blink. Taking such a drastic action to break four generations of branding tradition makes AMD appear to be not confident of their own work and weak. The fact that the new "HD 6850" and "HD 6870" is indeed a mid-ranged card forced to wear high-end card boots makes it look even worse.

AMD should respect all of us as customers and just stick to their guns and show some serious integrity. While I'm still hoping otherwise, AMD will lose my respect as a fan if the HD 6700 comes out as the HD 6800.

QUOTE(pergilahsayang @ Oct 10 2010, 01:27 PM)
Hello guys, just wanna know, currently, ATI HD 4250 is the 'strongest' Integrated GPU? or got better 1?
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Don't bother with getting the most powerful IGP. They're very expensive and with APUs (CPU+GPU) coming around next year, they will be obsoleted then. If you need to have a motherboard with an IGP, just take anything that strikes your fancy and meet your other requirements (eg: SATA 6.0Gbps and USB 3.0).
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Not a desktop chip, but you might get a better idea with the Zacate APU 18W TDP chips meant for notebooks.
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post Oct 11 2010, 01:40 PM

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But will their software allow it? tongue.gif
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post Oct 11 2010, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Oct 11 2010, 05:53 PM)
It look like 6k series is a focus improvement on their high end card to fight nVidia. Skip mid end card to cut cost. Rename to arrange again their card performance level.  hmm.gif
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Actually, they skipped the high-end GPU and forced the mid ranged one to take the high-end's place.

QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Oct 11 2010, 07:57 PM)
Yeah this re-branding sure is hopeless...I'm used to the suffix of x850, x870 or x890 for higher end cards and x750 and x770 or x830 for mid~end cards..
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One way of dealing with this is accepting that AMD has produced a very crappy high-end GPU this time around. rclxms.gif
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post Oct 12 2010, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 12 2010, 08:07 PM)
Haha. If the rumour is right, the new HD 6800 performs worse on synthetic benchmarks than the HD 5800.

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post Oct 12 2010, 09:52 PM

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If the rumours are true, AMD did not need to downgrade the HD x800 series from high-end to mid-ranged and further compress and devalue the enthusiast class of the HD x900 series.
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post Oct 12 2010, 10:28 PM

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No. The HD 4800 series was a complete success and a game changer. The HD 6800 series is going to be the black sheep of the family. AMD can save the HD 6800 series by keeping with tradition.

As for pricing, it's probably going to be higher, since the rumours suggest AMD rebranding the HD 5750 and HD 5770 as HD 6750 and HD 6770 respectively.
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Oct 15 2010, 10:31 PM)
I thought about it, but I think upgrading the current one will be the best. Cause I still have a 550w PSU lying around, so I just do some heavy OCing and voila!

should I go for HD4xxx instead?
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Oct 15 2010, 11:06 PM)
is it pcie?
better lowered 5 series.. 56xx is ok..
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If it is PCIe, I also would recommend the HD 5670 or the HD 4670. They will pwn any x1900 in every single respect but cost; performance, size, power consumption, heat generated, noise generated. They will be gloriously overkill for such an old machine. brows.gif

To save cost, boycott the 1GB models and look for the 512MB ones instead. It will save you a lot of money and the performance will be about the same.

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