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post Jul 15 2010, 02:48 PM

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thread size i guess
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post Jul 15 2010, 02:49 PM

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can look at the cap or lens what..
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post Jul 15 2010, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 15 2010, 02:43 PM)
for f stop its the same la. laugh.gif
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i think i wrote wrongly... tongue.gif

we know that aps-c and FF dof is different...my question is how do we know the aperture on FF to get the similar DOF on aps-c for example f2.8 on aps-c = f??? on ff...

just some random question pops while doing my work... biggrin.gif
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post Jul 15 2010, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 15 2010, 02:34 PM)
the one u buy from william not good mer?  hmm.gif


Added on July 15, 2010, 2:36 pm

for NEX-5, its FULL HD. beat that. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(1212345656 @ Jul 15 2010, 02:37 PM)
Sony DT 18-70mm lens how many mm??
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18-70mm is 18-70mm la.. aduih.. if u mean MFD (google it), then its written there on your lens' distance scale, figure it out yourself instead of expecting to be spoonfed

QUOTE(hazril @ Jul 15 2010, 02:42 PM)
dont want to hear it again!!!! *closing my ears*

is there any calculation to know the F-stop between aps-c and ff...???

eg : on aps-c F2.8 = on ff F???
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post Jul 15 2010, 02:59 PM

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Different la the DOF between f2.8 on FF on APS-C. That's what hazril is asking. U fellas only talking bout speed being same.

From my own experience it's about 1 stop difference.

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post Jul 15 2010, 03:01 PM

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got different eh.. i thought in FOV only..
meant the FF got better bokeh?
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post Jul 15 2010, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(hazril @ Jul 15 2010, 02:56 PM)
i think i wrote wrongly... tongue.gif

we know that aps-c and FF dof is different...my question is how do we know the aperture on FF to get the similar DOF on aps-c for example f2.8 on aps-c = f??? on ff...

just some random question pops while doing my work... biggrin.gif
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bro, the DoF will be the same provided you stand the same distance with your camera (be it FF or apsc) and the subject and background distance remains the same.. another words, everything same, only the camera changes.. = DoF same..

its different when you want to get the SAME angle of view on both cameras... thats where the FF needs to go closer, correct? (trust me, its correct), then thus making the ratio between "the photographer to subject" to "subject to background" becomes bigger (meaning from 2:2, to become 1:2)... that's how the DoF will differ

edit: unless that's what ianho is explaining, then yeah.. he answered d

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post Jul 15 2010, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(hazril @ Jul 15 2010, 02:56 PM)
i think i wrote wrongly... tongue.gif

we know that aps-c and FF dof is different...my question is how do we know the aperture on FF to get the similar DOF on aps-c for example f2.8 on aps-c = f??? on ff...

just some random question pops while doing my work... biggrin.gif
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i oredi ask this to albert back there

F2.8 at apsc = F1.8 at FF

must divide by 1.5 same like sensor crop..
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QUOTE(MechaHerc @ Jul 15 2010, 03:05 PM)
i oredi ask this to albert back there

F2.8 at apsc = F1.8 at FF

must divide by 1.5 same like sensor crop..
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then APSC has better bokeh? hmm.gif
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post Jul 15 2010, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 15 2010, 03:11 PM)
then APSC has better bokeh?  hmm.gif
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full frame has better bokeh la. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 15 2010, 03:11 PM)
full frame has better bokeh la.  laugh.gif
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i think got something wrong with that so called equal.. sweat.gif

like we can get F1.8 FF result with just F2.8 in APSC..
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post Jul 15 2010, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 15 2010, 03:11 PM)
then APSC has better bokeh?  hmm.gif
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of cos la FF, remember the shallower Dof at FF camera..

QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 15 2010, 03:18 PM)
i think got something wrong with that so called equal..  sweat.gif

like we can get F1.8 FF result with just F2.8 in APSC..
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let say we put 85mm F1.4 at A900, we need a lens (plus minus) 50mm F/0.95 here for apsc lol.. like Leica Noctilux-M lens.. haha

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post Jul 15 2010, 03:26 PM

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isn't that the equation would be
F2.8 at FF = F1.8 at APSC

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post Jul 15 2010, 03:27 PM

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8tvt, malam nih come Ikea, test then u will know, be it equation wrong ke, right ke... definitely u will get the answer then tongue.gif
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anyone know where to get and pricing of the Sony ultra-wide converter for the 16mm for the NEX? biggrin.gif

I asked a few shops but not yet bring in stock yet.
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post Jul 15 2010, 03:32 PM

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shootkk's brother ka? tongue.gif
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post Jul 15 2010, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jul 15 2010, 03:27 PM)
8tvt, malam nih come Ikea, test then u will know, be it equation wrong ke, right ke... definitely u will get the answer then tongue.gif
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i would love to join but something circling in my head..
1) not very familiar with that place even though now @ 1U..
2) need to go back to puncak jalil and then go to ikea would make me pengsan.. sweat.gif
3) oh no need to do some groceries.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 15 2010, 03:26 PM)
isn't that the equation would be
F2.8 at FF = F1.8 at APSC

haha laugh.gif
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yes u rite bro. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(lwliam @ Jul 15 2010, 03:32 PM)
shootkk's brother ka? tongue.gif
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same thought lol, but kinda shock at 1st shootkk suddenly staff now laugh.gif
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shockk : zaloon also no stock for wide converter... fisheye got lah~ if zaloon dont have it yet... then must be hard to find at other place..

lwliam: bro... pm me ur phone can? maybe gonna drop by tonite's TT whistling.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 15 2010, 03:39 PM)
i would love to join but something circling in my head..
1) not very familiar with that place even though now @ 1U..
2) need to go back to puncak jalil and then go to ikea would make me pengsan..  sweat.gif
3) oh no need to do some groceries..  doh.gif
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u know which road is LDP right? come out from 1U, then u can see the major road/flyover bridge on top of the traffic light? that is LDP, there, u turn left and follow the traffic... keep left all the way, about 200 meters ahead turn left at the 1st turning u see, u will actually be able to see the big yellow IKEA word already.

no need go back puncak jalil 1st la.. hang around 1st..

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