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post Dec 8 2010, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 8 2010, 12:22 AM)
one of the floor trader tweet :

@PipCzar: I have said for a long time..."they" will prop up this market until "they" can get out of $GM $C and other GFC investments

C is crazy. Fed holding at 4.14 average. Once they get back their monies from their "investment" - they will kaboom the market...
i sold off my risky portfolio.. waiting for the day to go LONG again.
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Right on.. We've seen this before. Just remember Jan and April highs. When the market tanks, the media will cook up some news that it was because of new European fear, or China going to tighten or another one of the N.Korea attack. After they sell off, we're back to Dow 10000, then they'll say QE version x will be next to get the bulls excited again. laugh.gif

Update: 1:00am
Psst.. for some reason, my alert for S (4.25) just fired up.
It has crossed over 50MA and 200MA, now it becomes bullish again.

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post Dec 8 2010, 01:04 AM

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of coz aware the highs, but the political situation is changing. obama is willing to kok-perate, its good but very not his style hmm.gif

The major indexes opened higher Tuesday as investors digested the extension of Bush-era tax cuts and a jump in commodity prices triggered by a lower dollar. The Nasdaq, S&P 500, NYSE composite and Dow gained 0.7% each. Volume soared across the board

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volume is high lately. Pre-holiday push-up before X-mas sales?

Commodities counters got whacked today... aiyooo..
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QUOTE(sulifeisgreat @ Dec 8 2010, 01:04 AM)
of coz aware the highs, but the political situation is changing. obama is willing to kok-perate, its good but very not his style  hmm.gif 

The major indexes opened higher Tuesday as investors digested the extension of Bush-era tax cuts and a jump in commodity prices triggered by a lower dollar. The Nasdaq, S&P 500, NYSE composite and Dow gained 0.7% each. Volume soared across the board
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Did you see that they sell into opening rally? Gold/Silver/Metals stocks all sold into it.
I'm guessing tomorrow, they'll probably give it one more day of up and then hit it with bad news
to pull money out by weekend. brows.gif

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post Dec 8 2010, 01:18 AM

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buy the rumor, sell the news laugh.gif
so izit going to gostan & stay within the channel? will the fun asst manager follow the instruction on the desk of fund manager to dun rock the boat?
oh well, just enjoy the trend ride & not adding any new position in usa stocks. my bet is it will break out of the channel sweat.gif
until they can manufacture/ recycle some scary monster stories & spook the weak holders, can't short sad.gif

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 8 2010, 01:10 AM)
Did you see that they sell into opening rally?  Gold/Silver/Metals stocks all sold into it.
I'm guessing tomorrow, they'll probably give it one more day of up and then hit it with bad news
to pull money out by weekend.  brows.gif
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post Dec 8 2010, 03:05 AM

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QUOTE(sulifeisgreat @ Dec 8 2010, 01:18 AM)
buy the rumor, sell the news  laugh.gif
so izit going to gostan & stay within the channel? will the fun asst manager follow the instruction on the desk of fund manager to dun rock the boat?
oh well, just enjoy the trend ride & not adding any new position in usa stocks. my bet is it will break out of the channel  sweat.gif
until they can manufacture/ recycle some scary monster stories & spook the weak holders, can't short  sad.gif
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Update: 4:30am
Intraday sell signal in... $VIX turns green. rclxms.gif
Nimbled some at SPXU @ 20.80.

Closing update:
Dow 11359.39 -3.03 -0.03%
Nasdaq 2598.49 +3.57 +0.14%
S&P500 1223.75 +0.63 +0.05%

The bulls gave up the rally when it was as high as 80+ pts.
SP500 gap up, tagged 1235 at open and immediately retreated, attempted again at 1233.50 and went straight down to fill gap at close.

Later in the session, Obama said tax extended, so sell on the news.and then, also the whisper about expanded insider trading investigation got stepped up added fuel to fire, frighten the market (purely excuse to sell the top!).

LVS also in big retreat from 50 to close 47.50 (47.45 AH).

The 3 months daily charts for Dow and SP500 look like a double top now..

I don't expect much retreat since we still got QE going on but we shall see...
they could trap bears later. laugh.gif

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post Dec 8 2010, 11:02 AM

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Guys, I'm thinking of unloading some of my "C" since it has been upped quite a bit for short-term gain. Do you think it's a right move or should I hold longer? Fyi, my purchase price is $4.15
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 8 2010, 01:10 AM)
Did you see that they sell into opening rally?  Gold/Silver/Metals stocks all sold into it.
I'm guessing tomorrow, they'll probably give it one more day of up and then hit it with bad news
to pull money out by weekend.  brows.gif
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closing they already gostan. 3 of my holding hit trailing stop [CENX-, AMLN+, MU+], that is 20cts variance... fook. Small losses only, thanks to URRE, I covered it.
Only pending is DRYS... This one is stubborn...

Commodities counters took the bigger hit, especially with Coal, Silver and then Gold.

QUOTE(ronn77 @ Dec 8 2010, 11:02 AM)
Guys, I'm thinking of unloading some of my "C" since it has been upped quite a bit for short-term gain. Do you think it's a right move or should I hold longer? Fyi, my purchase price is $4.15
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Depends, looks like market took an early dive. All started off with good news on C and Tax-rebate extension...
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 8 2010, 11:41 AM)
closing they already gostan. 3 of my holding hit trailing stop [CENX-, AMLN+, MU+], that is 20cts variance... fook. Small losses only, thanks to URRE, I covered it.
Only pending is DRYS... This one is stubborn...

Commodities counters took the bigger hit, especially with Coal, Silver and then Gold.
Depends, looks like market took an early dive. All started off with good news on C and Tax-rebate extension...
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zaman, what is the good news related to "C"? Mind to share?
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post Dec 8 2010, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Dec 8 2010, 11:45 AM)
zaman, what is the good news related to "C"? Mind to share?
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2 actually.

1st - US Treasury will be selling off all their holding [scam - not even all, always lying]. at 8.30, u can see J.P. Morgan selling C actively.
Read the spoiler. I got few variant of the average cost, some said $4.14, some says $4.35.. weird.

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2 - share consolidation., just like KNM ... but this one has been going long. I believe after the Fed lelong finish, they will activate this one.


Overall good news was : renewing Bush era tax cuts keeps his 2008 promise to protect the American middle class from an increase in tax rates

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 8 2010, 11:53 AM)
2 actually.

1st - US Treasury will be selling off all their holding [scam - not even all, always lying]. at 8.30, u can see J.P. Morgan selling C actively.
Read the spoiler. I got few variant of the average cost, some said $4.14, some says $4.35.. weird.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

2 - share consolidation., just like KNM ... but this one has been going long. I believe after the Fed lelong finish, they will activate this one.
Overall good news was :  renewing Bush era tax cuts keeps his 2008 promise to protect the American middle class from an increase in tax rates
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Bro, US treasury is selling their stock posession on this company...so what does the benefit it bring to "C"? Another thing related to share consolidation, I thought it suppose to be a bad thing instead of good news to the company as normally company consolidate their shares when it dropped to dirt cheap level and to prevent it look like lower liner stock?

Sorry as I'm a bit nooby on this but hope to hear more before decided what to do next. If the good news does not warrant such quite a steep increase lately then selling off in a short term will be a better idea.
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post Dec 8 2010, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Dec 8 2010, 12:52 PM)
Bro, US treasury is selling their stock posession on this company...so what does the benefit it bring to "C"? Another thing related to share consolidation, I thought it suppose to be a bad thing instead of good news to the company as normally company consolidate their shares when it dropped to dirt cheap level and to prevent it look like lower liner stock?

Sorry as I'm a bit nooby on this but hope to hear more before decided what to do next. If the good news does not warrant such quite a steep increase lately then selling off in a short term will be a better idea.
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Duh. Okay, if you got time, read again all the write-up here.

I will make it simple. In 2008/2009, US Treasury + Federal Reserve Bank did a bailed out, under a program call TARP or Troubled ASSET RELIEF PROGRAM [watch Wall Street 2: Money never sleep] because Citi is too big to fail. Also in the same league is Bank of America, AIG, JPM and Freddie/Fannie, after learning a lesson from Bear Sterns and Lehman Brothers.

Example : AIG got a total of $70B under TARP, plus $127 billion on others credit facilities.

Refer here :
http://bailout.propublica.org/list
http://money.cnn.com/news/storysupplement/...bailouttracker/
http://bailout.propublica.org/entities/96-citigroup

Now, back to the story. As a open free economy, investors don't like a company to be government controlled, have a lot of bureaucracy and process to follow, which will limit their money making program.

Once the government is out, then you are free to run the company as you like, not as dictated or govern by some BS policy. That is a relief to many parties now, and Treasury C preferred shares are now almost left 2-3 billion shares.

Financial system is complex in US, mostly are fake, leveraging on toxic assets. [google for toxic asset]. These big banks are interlinked to many other support financial system and services, if one big taikor bank failed, the economy will failed and 2nd Great Depression will become a reality.

Next phase is to stop or weed out manipulator/speculator on C, just like what AIG did. Consolidate the share, make it expensive and reduce the # numbers of shares.

That is the general story on the surface. In fact, it is really complex, complicated web of lies.

More reading:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/conte...69032985454.htm
"Too Big to Fail " http://www.google.com.my/search?q=too+big+...lient=firefox-a



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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 8 2010, 01:42 PM)
Duh. Okay, if you got time, read again all the write-up here.

I will make it simple. In 2008/2009, US Treasury + Federal Reserve Bank did a bailed out, under a program call TARP or Troubled ASSET RELIEF PROGRAM [watch Wall Street 2: Money never sleep] because Citi is too big to fail. Also in the same league is Bank of America, AIG, JPM and Freddie/Fannie, after learning a lesson from Bear Sterns and Lehman Brothers.

Example : AIG got a total of $70B under TARP, plus $127 billion on others credit facilities.

Refer here :
http://bailout.propublica.org/list
http://money.cnn.com/news/storysupplement/...bailouttracker/
http://bailout.propublica.org/entities/96-citigroup

Now, back to the story. As a open free economy, investors don't like a company to be government controlled, have a lot of bureaucracy and process to follow, which will limit their money making program.

Once the government is out, then you are free to run the company as you like, not as dictated or govern by some BS policy. That is a relief to many parties now, and Treasury C preferred shares are now almost left 2-3 billion shares.

Financial system is complex in US, mostly are fake, leveraging on toxic assets. [google for toxic asset]. These big banks are interlinked to many other support financial system and services, if one big taikor bank failed, the economy will failed and 2nd Great Depression will become a reality.

Next phase is to stop or weed out manipulator/speculator on C, just like what AIG did. Consolidate the share, make it expensive and reduce the # numbers of shares.

That is the general story on the surface. In fact, it is really complex, complicated web of lies.

More reading:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/conte...69032985454.htm
"Too Big to Fail " http://www.google.com.my/search?q=too+big+...lient=firefox-a
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Thanks zamans, this is like a tutorial explanations to me..clear and simple.

So I'll wait for another run tonight by "C" then will consider selling it off before next round loading.
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Closing update:
Dow 11372.48 +13.32 +0.12%
Nasdaq 2609.16 +10.67 +0.41%
S&P500 1228.28 +4.53 +0.37%

Market actually a bit flat today.. most commodities like metals and Oil sold off early but didn't really recover much from their loss.

LVS drops to close $46.. looks like it is bouncing a bit off the near term support here but needs one more day to confirm.



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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 9 2010, 05:47 AM)

Market actually a bit flat today.. most commodities like metals and Oil sold off early  but didn't really recover much from their loss. 

LVS drops to close $46.. looks like it is bouncing a bit off the near term support here but needs one more day to confirm.
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Yup, I got few metal in action : URRE, UCE, SLV and AUY a little.

C is bouncing again. Climbing to 4.70

Yesterday got 2 Chinese based IPO.

YOKU 33.44 +20.64 (161.25%)
After Hours: 34.70 +1.26 (3.77%)
* China's answer to YOUTUBE

DANG 29.91+13.91 (86.94%)
After Hours: 30.19 +0.28 (0.94%)
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 9 2010, 08:41 AM)
Yup, I got few metal in action : URRE, UCE, SLV and AUY a little.

C is bouncing again. Climbing to 4.70

Yesterday got 2 Chinese based IPO.

YOKU 33.44 +20.64 (161.25%)
After Hours: 34.70 +1.26 (3.77%)
* China's answer to YOUTUBE

DANG 29.91+13.91 (86.94%)
After Hours: 30.19 +0.28 (0.94%)
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C almost reach my sell price: 4.75. If this hits tomorrow, I'll look forward my last batch at $5 as next sale.


Yeah.. YOKU is the new hot NFLX from China. Be careful but may be worth the ride.

LVS got some BUY calls today, maybe because of the pull back in prices.
http://blogs.barrons.com/stockstowatchtoda...od=yahoobarrons
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Las-Vegas-Sa...707473.html?x=0


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post Dec 9 2010, 08:48 PM

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close position as reversal sighted doh.gif balance watchlist remain for riding

10/11/10 wti 15.23 17.28 +13%
10/11/10 puda 12.05 12.04 -0% win some, lose some (note to self, dun greedy, sell at 25% gain in future, when price was $16, 2 days ago)
10/11/10 hl 8.32 10.23 +22%
14/10/10 ico 6.05 7.98 +31

10/11/10 hl Options Expiring Friday, June 17, 2011, call strike price $8 is $1.87
currently $2.93 for +56%

10/11/10 puda Options Expiring Friday, May 20, 2011, call strike price $12.5 is $2.05
currently $2.15 for -0%

10/11/10 wti Options Expiring Friday, April 15, 2011, call strike price $15 is $2.1
currently $3.4 for +61%

17/11/10 puts options sure bakar, zero value here we come since january is next month laugh.gif
vphm put Options Expiring Friday, January 21, 2011 strike price $15 is 0.75, currently $0.35 negative value
crox put Options Expiring Friday, March 18, 2011 strike price $16 is 2.4, currently $1.47 negative value
lvs put Options Expiring Friday, March 18, 2011 strike price $46 is 5.85, currently $5.5 negative value
ten put Options Expiring Friday, January 21, 2011 strike price $34 is 2.2, currently $0.41 negative value
wti put Options Expiring Friday, January 21, 2011 strike price $15 is 0.95, currently $0.45 negative value

Chinese stocks suffered some of the biggest hits lately among U.S.-traded stocks. Fresh fears of more interest-rate hikes in inflation-plagued China
sent a chill through some of its hottest stocks this week. The China Banking Regulatory Commission instructed lenders to tighten standards for loans to real estate developers. Hong Kong’s Hang Seng index on Wednesday dived 1.4%, logging its seventh distribution day in recent weeks.
The Shanghai composite fell 0.9%, though it didn’t mark a distribution day. That bourse shows just three distribution days in the past few weeks.

Coal producer Puda Coal PUDA dived 18% in frantic trade Wednesday. Puda announced a secondary offering of 7.85 million shares.
That supply increase come to 71% of the float (11 million shares) and 37% of total shares (21 million). Puda’s gap-down came rushing toward
its 10-week moving average, but missed it by 34cents. Note, though, this decline is appearing with monster volume. That’s not at all the ideal retreat
you’d want to see.

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DANG and YOKU climbing higher...
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 9 2010, 11:35 PM)
DANG and YOKU climbing higher...
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yeah, so is IRE. missed my chance to get some last friday. now it's touching 3
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post Dec 10 2010, 12:22 AM

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Out 14.77 via Trailing stop.

Make peanut.. other commodities stock are flat pretty much



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