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 US stock discussion v3, Double Bottom coming?

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post Aug 4 2010, 09:36 AM

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Anyone here holding AIG?

I have 150 shares due to purchase of 3,000 shares before it goes consolidated 20-1 which mine posession become 150.

I'm targetting USD50 before deciding to sell...
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post Aug 4 2010, 09:56 PM

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I bought AIG through DBS Vickers online which been using them for SGX trading too.

My target is another $10 and will take profit temporarily while waiting it to drop another 10% before going in again.
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post Aug 12 2010, 11:26 AM

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looks like investors are throwing their posession after positive hike since June.

I do targetting "C" but will only go in at under 3.75, believe more selling pressure will persist. Might be worth a look into RBS and BAC.
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post Nov 7 2010, 07:46 PM

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I just got my stock on C @ $4.15 and BAC @ $11.35 on Wed. Hope to keep it for few years and see the return. I'm not the speculator but more on investor point of view.
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post Nov 9 2010, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Nov 9 2010, 03:05 PM)
Thanks Sifu. Most of us are small time salary worker, so can buy 100-500 units of penny stocks (in NYSE penny = Below USD5!)

I unit of LVS now is USD51, used to be USD17
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not only that, they used to be under $2 during crisis.

Imagine those buying huge lots and hold it until now thumbup.gif
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post Nov 11 2010, 10:13 AM

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Do you guys think there will be some round of window dressing by this year end?
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post Dec 8 2010, 11:02 AM

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Guys, I'm thinking of unloading some of my "C" since it has been upped quite a bit for short-term gain. Do you think it's a right move or should I hold longer? Fyi, my purchase price is $4.15
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post Dec 8 2010, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 8 2010, 11:41 AM)
closing they already gostan. 3 of my holding hit trailing stop [CENX-, AMLN+, MU+], that is 20cts variance... fook. Small losses only, thanks to URRE, I covered it.
Only pending is DRYS... This one is stubborn...

Commodities counters took the bigger hit, especially with Coal, Silver and then Gold.
Depends, looks like market took an early dive. All started off with good news on C and Tax-rebate extension...
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zaman, what is the good news related to "C"? Mind to share?
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post Dec 8 2010, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 8 2010, 11:53 AM)
2 actually.

1st - US Treasury will be selling off all their holding [scam - not even all, always lying]. at 8.30, u can see J.P. Morgan selling C actively.
Read the spoiler. I got few variant of the average cost, some said $4.14, some says $4.35.. weird.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

2 - share consolidation., just like KNM ... but this one has been going long. I believe after the Fed lelong finish, they will activate this one.
Overall good news was :  renewing Bush era tax cuts keeps his 2008 promise to protect the American middle class from an increase in tax rates
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Bro, US treasury is selling their stock posession on this company...so what does the benefit it bring to "C"? Another thing related to share consolidation, I thought it suppose to be a bad thing instead of good news to the company as normally company consolidate their shares when it dropped to dirt cheap level and to prevent it look like lower liner stock?

Sorry as I'm a bit nooby on this but hope to hear more before decided what to do next. If the good news does not warrant such quite a steep increase lately then selling off in a short term will be a better idea.
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post Dec 8 2010, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 8 2010, 01:42 PM)
Duh. Okay, if you got time, read again all the write-up here.

I will make it simple. In 2008/2009, US Treasury + Federal Reserve Bank did a bailed out, under a program call TARP or Troubled ASSET RELIEF PROGRAM [watch Wall Street 2: Money never sleep] because Citi is too big to fail. Also in the same league is Bank of America, AIG, JPM and Freddie/Fannie, after learning a lesson from Bear Sterns and Lehman Brothers.

Example : AIG got a total of $70B under TARP, plus $127 billion on others credit facilities.

Refer here :
http://bailout.propublica.org/list
http://money.cnn.com/news/storysupplement/...bailouttracker/
http://bailout.propublica.org/entities/96-citigroup

Now, back to the story. As a open free economy, investors don't like a company to be government controlled, have a lot of bureaucracy and process to follow, which will limit their money making program.

Once the government is out, then you are free to run the company as you like, not as dictated or govern by some BS policy. That is a relief to many parties now, and Treasury C preferred shares are now almost left 2-3 billion shares.

Financial system is complex in US, mostly are fake, leveraging on toxic assets. [google for toxic asset]. These big banks are interlinked to many other support financial system and services, if one big taikor bank failed, the economy will failed and 2nd Great Depression will become a reality.

Next phase is to stop or weed out manipulator/speculator on C, just like what AIG did. Consolidate the share, make it expensive and reduce the # numbers of shares.

That is the general story on the surface. In fact, it is really complex, complicated web of lies.

More reading:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/conte...69032985454.htm
"Too Big to Fail " http://www.google.com.my/search?q=too+big+...lient=firefox-a
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Thanks zamans, this is like a tutorial explanations to me..clear and simple.

So I'll wait for another run tonight by "C" then will consider selling it off before next round loading.
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post Dec 10 2010, 11:21 AM

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AIG bounce back with more than $5 increase yesterday. What a PUSH!!
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post Dec 10 2010, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 10 2010, 12:14 PM)
indeed, they are paying off all the remainder of their debt back..

But watch YOKU, a Youtube Clone of China. Not even making money, and share up 20% daily. WTF!
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So what you think of this counter? Good prospect or good for sake of goreng only?
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post Dec 14 2010, 09:39 AM

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Dear bros and sifus,

I'm thinking to enter some bullets for MGM which until now stood in the range of $13. Do you think it's worth to buy and keep this stock? I believe once the casino biz is back in full swing and this stocks should bring some good gains for our investment.

Any views?
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post Dec 14 2010, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 14 2010, 09:59 AM)
No santa Rally, as overall market is in RED. Its fake numbers, just like KLSE Composite at 4.55pm
Yes, if the econ. recovers, the Casino will fly to moon. But I will buy BAC$$
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I already enter some BAC @ $11.35. However as try not to put all eggs into a basket, im looking to diversify thus gaming stocks such as MGM is one of my preferred stocks as the level is still at reasonable price (unlike LVS which although the group begin making good money but satill unwilling to buy at this price level). Will take a look into MGM tonight and shooting in if it breaks below $13.
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post Dec 14 2010, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 14 2010, 10:43 AM)
Wow, not yet sold? Mine sold 1/2 @ 12.75 via Trailing STOP.  Average BAC at 12.30

MGM - you can get it today. I'm looking forward to bad economics data today.
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not yet sold bro, looking to make around $2 then I will sell it off.

bad economics data today? sounds scary....lol...anyway look fwd for tonight opening with M16 in hand.
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post Dec 14 2010, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 14 2010, 10:52 AM)
We got major economic data today.

9:30pm  Core Retail Sales m/m
9:30pm  PPI m/m
9:30pm    Retail Sales m/m

and mother of all news : 3:15am Federal Funds Rate

Good to pickup some weak stocks.
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I'm looking to offload my "C" today for short-term gain (BP $4.15).

Do you think that will be a good move or should hold longer?
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post Dec 14 2010, 11:26 PM

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AIG $50.50 thumbup.gif
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post Dec 15 2010, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 15 2010, 09:32 AM)
Longkang again today.

No doubt DOW is green, most stocks under my watch are RED.
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zaman, same here...although DOW is green but my other watchlist and possesion stocks are in red except AIG.

by the way how do you view your US stocks live price movement? For me, i view it from yahoo finance which does not have detailed buying and selling vols and I need something that I can view more.

Any recommendations?
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post Dec 16 2010, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 15 2010, 02:25 PM)
Huh?

From your words, I can assume that you bought it via 3rd party (local securities firm)

I have 2 live trading accounts. 1. MB Trading for short to medium term. 2. J2Trade - day trade account (cheaper rate $2.50)
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I buy via DBS Vickers and the fees is $29/transaction. However the weird thing is when I queue "C" like 10 lots then the fees will be $29 x 10 = $290 mad.gif

Where do you open the MB Trading a/c? Can be done locally here? OR via online?
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post Dec 16 2010, 11:54 AM

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bros,

yes, it's like a daylight robbery, so that's reason the stock I purchased need to hold longer or else unable to recover back my costs.

The transaction they charge is per lot which I think is ridiculous. Like if I queue like 10,000 shares to purchase, they should charge me based on per transaction which is $29/transaction, not $29 x 10 = $290 mad.gif

Well, I guess I need to seek for the options by Zaman bro to get cheaper trading, so can have faster turnaround for better margins.

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