just like kevin23 who asked me to 'pm' him, who the hell you think you are to ask for a dare? noone here owes anyone anything to prove, especially not to a bunch of pathetic low lifes like yours. and since you are into properties, you should know ROI is also influenced by how much your initial investment, in this case, how much does the car cost initially.

you & kevin23 are a pair for each other. you two think along the same line, talks along the same ways, and both are equally pathetic and f***ed up.

and i'm not the only one assuming things. you assumed that most korean car supporters are proton fans too. that's f***tard.

this is the only and last post where i used the most F words, because you two are worth it. i bet you two get f***ed up alot in life, so f***ed that you two think you have already achieved something in life by driving the two budget models that only our 3rd world country has. f*** off please.

bro..honestly i think u the one that should grown up ..majority here doesn't seems love ur opinion...so better just go away & just tell ur wife, child about your mighty vios & whatsoever...

I ageed what Eddie said.
Toyota produced very decent cars such as camry and altis in malaysia. In fact, these are their world cars which sell around the world.
However, come to Innova, Avanza and Vios, the trio are only sold in Asean which are meant for the third world countries like Malaysia. Technical speaking, these car are just put together using the older models chasis without new modern features and techs. And Hwa..la.. selling to people at a shocking price relatively high compared to the new and modern Koreans.
Sometime, I just symphatized people who drove the toyota trio, because since they can't afford a better car and yet do not have trust on the P1 and P2. so, as the only alternative is to buy a low spec third world Japanese cars.
I fully understand that before the forte and Sonata time, as most people with limited budget did not have any choice but to puchase the Toyota trio. However, as time come, now we can actually buy some good decent cars with a reasonable price. (such as Forte, Cruze, but not Sonata, the price is to close to its competitors). And I don't really see the reason to buy the third world Japs anymore as the newer korean are as reliable too and Naza has actually improved on their service already. (i have checked on a few who drive Forte)
Lets buy a good car that we can enjoy along the time of driving in years, instead of keep thinking about RESALE VALUE and SERVICE.
We buy car to enjoy and not for selling.
For those who refused to entertain new ideas, you can always stay in your small world driving the the trio and see much you would have miss in your entire life later.

Cheers...........

cybermaster, I am not attacking anyone here in this forum. Pls do not provoke me to DARE!!! I will not just sit down and do nothing about it if u continue!!!

Eh i thought u supposed to talk about the Sonata topic only? Dont la go off topic. Hehe

Ok. U got my message

go to glenmarie showroom, there u can test drive the 2.0 and 2.4 model and also u can test drive tucson 2.0 also.....i welcome u to test drive this car....u know this car looks much more nicer in real than in pictures.....

Ya there is one showroom near ss2. Also there is a showroom in 223 along federal highway. The car in silver looks stunning coupled with the chrome bits.

I think this car has people's head spinning because it looks very attractive esp on the outside but when they look at the price second thoughts creep in the head.

And to guys there that has been criticizing Sonata over the same point over and over again, no offense, but I think Sonata is just not the car for you then. I've driven it, owned it for the past 8 years without any much technical problems. 

it doesn't matter. i have nothing off topic to speak to you for whatever reason. you wanted someone to bug in off topics, go find someone else. i'll have to pass this honour. i won't be good enough for you, since i have such bad memories which means i have to always stick to whatever i have said before and not flip flopped. besides, i agree with you that it would be childish and stupid to say anything to you. you came back from UK didn't you? you must be extremely capable, and someone as capable as you can't be driving only a vios. you are just hiding the fact you have a Bentley. sorry, i lose. good day to you.

p/s: sorry i can't read or comprehend english as well as you do,  . never been to england.

I stop servicing my Sonata ever since the car hit 30,000km mileage at KahBintang's service centers. Obviously if you're good enough you can see that their services are not very competent and they cannot solve any small problems. I relied heavily on my own trusted mechanic since then to resolve any technical issues related to Sonata. It has not given me any big headache now and I meet the service schedule strictly.

Your friend might be having bad experience with Sonata, but that doesn't mean you should generalize the idea on the quality issues of Sonata overall on these few newer generations. New generations are introduced to solve problems related to previous generations, feedback and improve, and that's how cars should be improved. Every brand of car has their own problem, my friend has one with Toyota, another with Honda's security system, but that doesn't give us the right to generalize that Honda and Toyota made bad cars, should we?

If you're experiencing bad services, then you should check with other car brands. It'll be no use for you to influence us who has been having good experiences with the car. Everyone's perception, expectation is different. You have to learn that. 

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As u can see from the networth thread, the money i earned there was used to invest in ASB which gives me a return of approx 9%/annum. So for the RM255K i have in there i will be earning approx RM23k/annum in interest. This fund will hit approx RM 1 mil in about 10 yrs time.

Part of my other finances was used to purchase and renovate my property in TTDI,KL (which in case u didnt know is a high end area). The property has since appreciated approx RM 200K. Im already looking into a another property in the same area. Will keep u updated. Maybe u could even come visit sometime if u doubt my words.

I also have other investments which i didnt want to mention on the net worth thread for privacy reasons. My gold investment has now increased to around 100K from the 60K then.

Im more interested in safe but bigger investments. Changing my Vios is the last thing on my mind now when im more focused on increasing my own net worth. Would u be a millionaire in 10yrs time? I would have crossed the million mark in about 7 yrs time with all my current investments.

So this is the kind of person ure dealing with in the forum. Im far superior to you my friend. So thats why i nearly fell of my chair laughing when u said i couldnt afford to go beyond a Vios. I can buy a BMW 3 series CASH tomorrow is i wanted to la bro. HAHA 

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everyone, what would you answer when someone tells this to you? i'm speechless. not the 'wow' type speechless but ice cold dead speechless. 

gotta block this crazy ass shit. he is unbelievable. he really needs someone to talk to, badly.

Sonata vs H.Acc vs Toyota Camry (Basic)
135k vs 142 k vs 144k

the difference is too small no big hua

Thou Sonata is on the same segment the price positioning doesn't give a big HuHa.

Can't deny the Sonata is nice in design, but SD always didn't place it at a nice position just like Avante; only have beige color quite apek - in my opinion, while world wide is selling like hot cakes ; eg Singapore 2nd best seller after FORTE.

FORTE gave an impact impression cause a different segment and a cheaper price.

I believe korean car have to position them self lower due to their previous after sales reputation , For Sonata I am expecting about 5-10k cheaper from the existing price then we see a waiting list of 1-2 months queuing

A few existing Sonata owner (friends & relative) hinted will go for this Sonata when is time to change theirs, thou the mouth still complaining about SC but after warranty go outside to service no issue

Enough is enough.

7 days suspension for posting PM as flamebait...

3 days suspension for taking the flamebait instead of reporting the member.

I viewed and testdrove the Sonata. Here are my comments:

Pros
1) Beautiful exterior, especially the fierce but generous front. Futuristic-looking.
2) Has both sunroof and moonroof. Something different from other makes.

Cons
1) Interior headroom lacking. Head touches the top when seated at the back.
2) Hard to see the road. Dashboard and front body too long. Strains the eyes when driving.
3) No power. Pick-up very slow and torturous. No joy when stepping on the accelerator.

For me, the cons far outweighs the pros.

Do try it out yourself.

You are right bout the blandness in driving (on low speeds only) but my opinion is that the interior is great looking... Yes, the steering wheel could be improved (din particularly like the steering) but i don't feel the center dash not solidly put together as you have described... The interior design is great looking... not cluttered and not too many buttons... the glossy black plastics looks really good...

Leather is on the soft side but it is to provide comfort and not bucket seat dude... they reason why you are feeling like they are giving soft sponge is that they are giving more leather hide rather than stretch it... maybe i am on the heavy side so this give me a good support feeling...

Chrome is just what it is man... chrome... i don't see how camry's front grille chrome is much better than those of the sonata's.

Well, one man's poison is another man's food... thanks for the honest opinion...

to the still korean skeptics...

http://star-motoring.com/blog/permalink.asp?id=1335