QUOTE(MISHUGINA @ Jun 19 2010, 01:44 PM)
Sorry I have to disagree with you. Malaysian classical music has been stagnating even before MPO came especially with history of political bollocking esp. between Penang orchestras.
Why MPO only has about 5 local permanent players? At least even if I feel their standards are too high at least they don't do nonsense like reserving Bumiputera quotas for hack musicians. And local musicians benefited by training under them.
Nearest to their standard is KLPAC? Its as if you're implying National Symphony Orchestra doesn't exist. They still do, even though they've virtually ceased to give live performances.
QUOTE(tckian @ Jun 19 2010, 06:40 PM)
Want clarifying somethings:
Firstly, our society is not inttend to "attempted to be one gotto live behind MPO's shadow" or try to do better than MPO!!! We even didn't think about it!!! Our main purpose is to provide more classical music concerts & events and share to public. So that more and more people have opportunities to know about classical music. Why not??!! MPO was the best place to hear/enjoy classical music, no doubt about it!
i'll give my opinion to both of you at the same time...erm....
-malaysia's classical music didn't really stagnate before MPO came in. Instead the industry is kinda rising. That was the period where more people try to learn the classical music instrument (or at least let their children do it)...That was the time many classical music competitions were held, scholarships given to classical music student, more classical music school was open.
-Then back then, there are a few amateurs and professional orchestra rising. The one in hakka tower (or sth liddat...the one in petaling street), KLSO, NSO (erm...back then the old NSO played in what we called as 'Aswara Music UC' now)
-Together with all the facts above...I understand...completely understand that the purpose of MPO being brought in is to bring the Malaysians some well played classical music...I can not deny that the standard of MPO can be replaced by local orchestras. There were advantages of bringing in MPO into Malaysia.
-but...
-what do you think is in the mind of our own classical musicians.
-They're being competed unfairly (becoz they worked out hard but lacked of the proper trainings that the foreigners had)...well at least if calling it unfairly itself will be unfair to the foreigners. The local classical musicians were outcasted. For so many thousands of them learned since young just to get into the music industry. But that was everyone's dream to paly in a professional orchestra but the standard's too high in there. DO we really need those high standards??? Now if you are a musicians (at least at the level of amateurs), you can tell me the truth...
-how much difference is there when a proper well trained classical musician compare to a foreign classical musican??? well trained means taking proper lessons, finish off at least the LTCL, went overseas to receive some foreign training and concepts...ETC....Those whom we called them understand the music.
-If you know classical music only a lil...u will tell me...there will be sure a difference if compared a well trained foreigners with a well trained local musican... But not really... To me, although there may be a slight difference...But both as human are equally good because the skills, techniques, learning materials are standardized!
-EVEN if there's a difference, do we need such difference? Are there tonnes of classical music critics in our country? are there really that much of classical music appreciators taht go researching about classical music, learn about them and wanted to listen to them perfectly. Not really....We are just in the 1st step in that industry, perfection is not what we are aiming. But promoting the classical music is.
-I am not trying to demote MPO as hell here as I joined their program last time as well. But besides that, I joined the old NSO junior and let me tell you... That was the BEST part of my classical music life because those programs gathered the whole Malaysian's classical music kids. Giving them hotel room and scheduled them to a 5 days or 1 week camp... Then until the NSO moved to pangung negara I was still in there.... Those are the promotions I wished to see again and those are money really worth spending in.
-The foreigners can give us lessons but I dont really hope they overtake the majority of our classical music industry. You will say I am conservative type and think only the best for our own. and those who cant get a job from MPO..should they only got themselves to be blame becoz they are just not good enough...??? But I am not sure about this but I feel MPO got a certain quota for foreigners.
I felt that you have to be superb local to join the MPO but just above average foreigners to join the MPO. -looking at that big grand MPO fortress, our local classical musicians demotivated, they know they are not going anywhere....Its just becoming a teacher and teach all night with some events and functions as side incomes. Those who wanna look for their old dreams joined orchestras but which mostly were outcasted by MPO. I've seen too many super good musicians stuck in the middle. Everything is going good ...But not so after MPO came in. I;ve seen too many of them....and many of them graduated from foreign country as well such as Italy, England, Russia, Australia etc...coming back to teach.
Well its open for different opinions as in the MPO thingy ...Those above are just my 2 cents.
Btw...to Mshugina...Sorry about those other orchestra's existence...its been too long since I played in an orchestra, now you reminded me of many mroe...like RTM, NSO, Anns orchestra, KLSE...well...many more....
and to tckia...I was not talking about your society ..In fact its nothing to do about your society...Its a discussion about classical music in our country and the effect of MPO.
QUOTE(sebsebsebas @ Jun 19 2010, 02:01 PM)
any problem with 1Malaysia Youth Orchestra?
They seems to be doing fine..
well KLpac don even have strings except 1 double bass only.
they have so many saxophones.
erm...Mishugina answered your question.
This post has been edited by liez: Jun 26 2010, 12:42 AM 
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