Liez, its been too long since you played in an orchestra? So I wonder where you got feedback that Malaysian musicians in general has been "marginalized" by MPO?
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how much difference is there when a proper well trained classical musician compare to a foreign classical musican??? well trained emans taking proper lessons, finish off at least the LTCL, went overseas to receive some foreign training and concepts...ETC....Those whom we called them understand the music.
-If you know classical music only a lil...u will tell me...there will be sure a difference if compared a well trained foreigners with a well trained local musican... But not really... To me, although there may be a slight difference...But both as human are equally good because the skills, techniques, learning materials are standardized!
I assume you USED to be a musician because as one myself, I find this argument not funny at all but offensive.
You tell me a Yamaha violin teacher and a violinist trained from Julliard has STANDARDIZED technique and learning materials?!
You tell me a LTCL cert holder with a Paris Conservatoire musician are EQUALLY good?!
Then again you think KLPac's standards isn't too far behind MPO when in fact actually is like Everest and Kinabalu.
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EVEN if there's a difference, do we need such difference? Are there tonnes of classical music critics in our country? are there really that much of classical music appreciators taht go researching about classical music, learn about them and wanted to listen to them perfectly. Not really....We are just in the 1st step in that industry, perfection is not what we are aiming. But promoting the classical music is.
Perfection in music kills the joy of living the music. But without classical music "researchers" people will still think today that you should use the same amount of vibrato when you play Bach as same as when one plays Brahms as like 50 years ago.
Also I'm sure everyone agrees with me regarding this. Do you prefer to listen Beethoven's Symphony no. 5 by some second-rate orchestra or by Karajan/Berliner Philharmoniker, Szell/Cleveland Orchestra, etc? The answer is obvious.
Are you suggesting lets just let local orchestras continue to let them be and be deprived of a proper world class orchestra on our backyard, funded by local oil money which trains future musicians just so that some hack musician's ricebowl can be maintained?
For me, without MPO playing Mahler, Shostakovich, Ravel and Stravinsky, people will still think classical music is only about Canon in D and the recycled tunes we hear in commercials. So we need STANDARDS in order for classical music to be appreciated, not just promoted.
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But besides that, I joined the old NSO junior and let me tell you... That was the BEST part of my classical music life because those programs gathered the whole Malaysian's classical music kids. Giving them hotel room and scheduled them to a 5 days or 1 week camp... Then until the NSO moved to pangung negara I was still in there.... Those are the promotions I wished to see again and those are money really worth spending in.
Have you listened to MPYO? The kids at one time get to stay a week in Sime Darby suites which is quite extravagant by local standards and by end of the year they travel a few weeks tour around Malaysia including Sabah and Sarawak giving concerts. If a kid from Sabah travels all the way to KL to play in MPYO his airfare is reinbursed. Did NSO youth did that? The difference is its Petronas money, not government's that is used. And these kids played repertoires from composers like Rimsky Korsakov, Vaughan Williams and coming soon Mahler, which I don't think NSO ever did in their entire history. At their last concert they got to play with jazz musicians like Randy Brecker for Christ sakes! For your info, there is no foreigners in Malaysian Philharmonic Youth Orchestra.
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looking at that big grand MPO fortress, our local classical musicians demotivated, they know they are not going anywhere....Its just becoming a teacher and teach all night with some events and functions as side incomes. Those who wanna look for their old dreams joined orchestras but which mostly were outcasted by MPO. I've seen too many super good musicians stuck in the middle. Everything is going good ...But not so after MPO came in. I;ve seen too many of them....and many of them graduated from foreign country as well such as Italy, England, Russia, Australia etc...coming back to teach.
So MPO has a rule where if you play in NSO or some other orchestras you get blacklisted? Banned from even stepping into halls of DFP?
Well it sucks to be a local musician that got marginalized by foreigners. Give me a damn break. We ARE talking about promoting WESTERN music here and the irony is you're whining about foreigners taking off local people's rice bowl. I'd rather we pay 100% foreigners to listen them play
their own music properly. I know foreigners are the ones doing the most work raising the standard of "local" classical western music when other local musicians are busy backstabbing each other and involved in politicking.
Now you can go ahead and accuse me of getting paid to kiss MPO's butt in lowyatt. Personally, I don't like the diva attitude of some musicians in there. But also I've known good and nice, humble musicians who also worked their butts off to raise
Malaysian Western classical music standard. The good news for people like you is, once Petronas money runs out, MPO musicians will be filled by majority locals. I'll end my long rant here.
P/S: Players in RTM orchestras, NSO and DBKL are still getting decent income for living. I know a DBKL musician can earn around RM 3k, work five days a week and can get civil servant benefits like govt house loans. Plus they can still play in functions, teach and be living off VERY confortably. It just sucks they cant get opportunity to play quality repertoire like MPO but still, to tell me these musicians are marginalized is pretty much laughable.
This post has been edited by MISHUGINA: Jun 27 2010, 01:03 PM 
Jun 19 2010, 01:44 PM
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