go for master , bro
this is my suggestion from experienced worker :-)
Petronas(work) or Paris(Masters)?, Help me to decide!! (urgent)
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Jun 25 2010, 04:44 PM
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If you want experience join any service company, Technip being French are not the most generous of the lot, lagipun at 27 you only have 3 more years to go offshore before you're officially banned/desk bound. In Schlumberger you need to be below 30 for your first offshore passport.
Look, you don't need 2 MBA's MSC's to get a good pay. My friend with a normal UTM Chemical Engineering degree just 2nd class upper aja, is already a certified deepwater specialist at 26, at 25 he managed to do recovery for drilling mud worth USD5M which would otherwise been a very costly disposal. Btw now at 30 is is they youngest MD of a drilling fluid plant company, a local malaysian singh and he only make 30K plus a month, which is about an expat's salary, excluding bonuses and benefits. As for me, I graduated at 29 ha ha ha, with a degree in Marketing doing part time in UPM, I make above average as a former supply chain manager for a service company, a business analyst and now I am about to let go of all that at 35. Both of us are moving on to set up our own company not related to OnG. So you're still thinking of studying eh? Hmm my former procurment assistant is now Fasttrack on MI as new Field Manager at 27, grad at 24 worked for me as procurement assistant for six months and had a hire letter from Houston. Btw she's a girl, 5 '1 a Sabahan. There's only so much that can be read from the books. In this business its all about work experience, comparing that to the basics that you have learned and building contacts.So if you still would like to read/study to me that's a big loss on your end. To me you're too old and too late to go offshore already and perhaps a teaching job or a research job would be more suited. Get off the books and start doing practical stuff. Its my advise, nak dengar x nak sudah, but you're way way way behind the curve... This post has been edited by Tfazuin: Jun 25 2010, 04:48 PM |
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Jun 25 2010, 10:20 PM
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He won't be going offshore anyway.
I'd say you better look for a place where your Master degree "has value". One thing you are lacking here is experience. Those entering with first degree are also earning the same like you. So you can see that you Master gives no weight. Again, because you have no experience whatsoever in the line of business. This post has been edited by hanjo55: Jun 25 2010, 10:24 PM |
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Jun 26 2010, 03:09 AM
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QUOTE(Tfazuin @ Jun 25 2010, 04:44 PM) If you want experience join any service company, Technip being French are not the most generous of the lot, lagipun at 27 you only have 3 more years to go offshore before you're officially banned/desk bound. In Schlumberger you need to be below 30 for your first offshore passport. Wow, an eye opener. Thanks for sharing bro.Look, you don't need 2 MBA's MSC's to get a good pay. My friend with a normal UTM Chemical Engineering degree just 2nd class upper aja, is already a certified deepwater specialist at 26, at 25 he managed to do recovery for drilling mud worth USD5M which would otherwise been a very costly disposal. Btw now at 30 is is they youngest MD of a drilling fluid plant company, a local malaysian singh and he only make 30K plus a month, which is about an expat's salary, excluding bonuses and benefits. As for me, I graduated at 29 ha ha ha, with a degree in Marketing doing part time in UPM, I make above average as a former supply chain manager for a service company, a business analyst and now I am about to let go of all that at 35. Both of us are moving on to set up our own company not related to OnG. So you're still thinking of studying eh? Hmm my former procurment assistant is now Fasttrack on MI as new Field Manager at 27, grad at 24 worked for me as procurement assistant for six months and had a hire letter from Houston. Btw she's a girl, 5 '1 a Sabahan. There's only so much that can be read from the books. In this business its all about work experience, comparing that to the basics that you have learned and building contacts.So if you still would like to read/study to me that's a big loss on your end. To me you're too old and too late to go offshore already and perhaps a teaching job or a research job would be more suited. Get off the books and start doing practical stuff. Its my advise, nak dengar x nak sudah, but you're way way way behind the curve...  |
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Jun 26 2010, 11:59 AM
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try joinin petronas...
then...in the mean while..try gettin sum experience... i know a few people who did tat... then ..once u join them..work for them a year or 2..u will get new contacts from new companies..then u switch la... better $$  |
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Jun 26 2010, 12:23 PM
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PAris MAster to add self value 1st
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Jun 26 2010, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(roti bakar @ Jun 19 2010, 12:29 PM) Bachelors-Chemical Engineering Masters-HSE (Health, Safety & Env) QUOTE(zeewhy @ Jun 19 2010, 12:39 PM) great.. HSE is highly demanded esp in oil industry now. with good number of years of experience, you can go places. before making final choice, yr trip to paris may delay family life.. just a thot.. i'm come from engineering background and currently in engineering dept in O&G company. the position and my roll is compatible. Added on June 19, 2010, 12:49 pm where did u get this? certainly not true. i read for 5 years to get my roll and once started working, i have to learn from scratch again. bottoline is, work experience counts more than the roll |
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Jun 27 2010, 01:12 AM
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Aik, I never know Technip Malaysia sends ppl to IFP for study. Must be something new I guess.
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Jun 27 2010, 06:47 AM
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jun 25 2010, 11:49 AM) every company will have their bad time..even microsoft or apple experience it before... once reject, petronas wont accept u again, NEVER?the thing about ts concern is..once you rejected petronas offer..u will nvr get back to this company anymore..that's the petronas policy... wow, just know this, today |
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Jun 27 2010, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(Geek In Action @ Jun 26 2010, 03:09 AM) Wow, an eye opener. Thanks for sharing bro. They consider exceptional cases.Added on June 27, 2010, 9:05 am QUOTE(Tfazuin @ Jun 25 2010, 04:44 PM) If you want experience join any service company, Technip being French are not the most generous of the lot, lagipun at 27 you only have 3 more years to go offshore before you're officially banned/desk bound. In Schlumberger you need to be below 30 for your first offshore passport. Hey appreciate ur reply.Look, you don't need 2 MBA's MSC's to get a good pay. My friend with a normal UTM Chemical Engineering degree just 2nd class upper aja, is already a certified deepwater specialist at 26, at 25 he managed to do recovery for drilling mud worth USD5M which would otherwise been a very costly disposal. Btw now at 30 is is they youngest MD of a drilling fluid plant company, a local malaysian singh and he only make 30K plus a month, which is about an expat's salary, excluding bonuses and benefits. As for me, I graduated at 29 ha ha ha, with a degree in Marketing doing part time in UPM, I make above average as a former supply chain manager for a service company, a business analyst and now I am about to let go of all that at 35. Both of us are moving on to set up our own company not related to OnG. So you're still thinking of studying eh? Hmm my former procurment assistant is now Fasttrack on MI as new Field Manager at 27, grad at 24 worked for me as procurement assistant for six months and had a hire letter from Houston. Btw she's a girl, 5 '1 a Sabahan. There's only so much that can be read from the books. In this business its all about work experience, comparing that to the basics that you have learned and building contacts.So if you still would like to read/study to me that's a big loss on your end. To me you're too old and too late to go offshore already and perhaps a teaching job or a research job would be more suited. Get off the books and start doing practical stuff. Its my advise, nak dengar x nak sudah, but you're way way way behind the curve... Thanx for the tickle of the mind.. My future boss at Pet told me to take up the offer 1st thn later I can jump into Corporate Safety (technical site) or something else related to my qualification.But lately I came to knw many new hires resign aftr 1-2 yr coz they never given a role that they wanted.. Lots of technical grads thrown into non-technical.And there r 1000s waiting in the Job Change Application (JCA) queue at Petronas. Added on June 27, 2010, 9:16 am QUOTE(sungami @ Jun 27 2010, 01:12 AM) Aik, I never know Technip Malaysia sends ppl to IFP for study. Must be something new I guess. Not Technip Malaysia.Technip HQ of France. First time they recruit Malaysian. Myself and another gul from UPM got it. Added on June 27, 2010, 9:18 am QUOTE(un.deux.trois @ Jun 23 2010, 08:08 AM) How many years will you be bonded to Technip if you take their offer? While I will say it's never a good thing to get your hands and feet tied to a company because you'll have zero bargaining power as long as you're with them, if the bond is for a few years then it may be a good thing after all. Updated info-No bond.Employment offer upon completion. Added on June 27, 2010, 9:23 am QUOTE(den @ Jun 25 2010, 07:14 AM) Wow. You obtained first class in degree and master? I'm not 1st class student.Between, how many years for master in local U? But I applied for both option. Local u master depends on the courese. U can finish within 1 yr if you can stand the stress. Min 1 yr, Max 4 yr. Time Mgmt & commitment needed. Added on June 27, 2010, 9:24 am QUOTE(kevler @ Jun 25 2010, 12:04 PM) go for master , bro But this will be my 2nd masters.this is my suggestion from experienced worker :-) Im asking myself is this necessary for me.. Added on June 27, 2010, 9:26 am QUOTE(coolkid_85 @ Jun 26 2010, 11:59 AM) try joinin petronas... It's not only about money.then...in the mean while..try gettin sum experience... i know a few people who did tat... then ..once u join them..work for them a year or 2..u will get new contacts from new companies..then u switch la... better $$ Only 2 chosen frm Malaysia to enroll for this prgm. Added on June 27, 2010, 9:29 am QUOTE(artline500 @ Jun 26 2010, 07:47 PM) i'm come from engineering background and currently in engineering dept in O&G company. the position and my roll is compatible. Learning is a non-stop process.i read for 5 years to get my roll and once started working, i have to learn from scratch again. bottoline is, work experience counts more than the roll Evrtime we change company/ industry we need to start frm almost zero again.New environment, new challenges. Added on June 27, 2010, 9:32 am QUOTE(corallinkz @ Jun 27 2010, 06:47 AM) once reject, petronas wont accept u again, NEVER? They consider exceptional cases.wow, just know this, today Added on June 27, 2010, 9:35 am QUOTE(visigoth90 @ Jun 19 2010, 11:56 AM) petronas is the best place to work. work security, lifetime n great benefits! It's arguable and a very subjective statement.It all depends on what you expect from ur employer and vice versa.. Added on June 27, 2010, 9:36 am QUOTE(disasterheroes @ Jun 19 2010, 11:52 AM) take master at Technip laa dey. But not everyone can get a cubicle in the Twin Towers.mana tau dapat kerja sana. more better than petronas Added on June 27, 2010, 10:49 am QUOTE(kevler @ Jun 25 2010, 12:04 PM) go for master , bro Which industry are you from?this is my suggestion from experienced worker :-) Based on what points? By the time I complete this prgm I'll be in my early 29 with 1 bachelor n 2 masters but 0 experience. Lecturing is not my choice  This post has been edited by roti bakar: Jun 27 2010, 10:49 AM |
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Jun 28 2010, 12:31 PM
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Rotibakar,
You already have all the papers that you need, if you're serious about knowing about your work join a service company be it MI, Schlumberger, Baker, Halliburton, BJ etc , you learn more there than you will ever learn as compared to working for an Operator like Petronas, Shell etc. Go for the experience rather than the pay, the pay will come naturally. If someone who graduates late like me can do it, you can do a heck of a lot better. I've some personal friends who graduated business admin and now are Team Lead in Drilling Fluids. Business Admin bro...! He started as scratch because the company he formerly worked for as a mud logger closed shop and at 32 he had to start all over again. He's now with MI Swaco and last month is promoted to Ops Manager, special tools a good buddy of mine. As for the guy that I said is now an MD ayah dia dulu is just a lorry driver and they were so poor that they couldnt afford to change a flat wheel at the shop so had to do it on his own with him helping out. You just have to be doggone seriously motivated to get where you want to be and by all means get moving to help your family. People who have lots of money can do double, triple even double PHD, but you need to get you ass off the pedestal and improve their quality of life. Berbakti when your parents are still around, when they are no more, even if you're a millionaire it won't matter bro. To me you've made it the moment you go back to your parents and move them to a new fully furnished house or start to repair their home. If you want to wait, waitlah but lots of things can happen in 1 1/2 years, they may not be around that long to see you succeed. This post has been edited by Tfazuin: Jun 28 2010, 01:07 PM |
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QUOTE(Tfazuin @ Jun 25 2010, 04:44 PM) If you want experience join any service company, Technip being French are not the most generous of the lot, lagipun at 27 you only have 3 more years to go offshore before you're officially banned/desk bound. In Schlumberger you need to be below 30 for your first offshore passport. Bro, your explaination is very informative... That is why I cont my study part time in IE for getting practical experience rather than theoritical experience..As I c my age is still younger, so this is time for me to do both things together - master n working! So for roti bakar, study for me is just a gain of extra knowledge, practical also important.. think carefully...if I can continue working with technip after completing the course,i choose technip!Look, you don't need 2 MBA's MSC's to get a good pay. My friend with a normal UTM Chemical Engineering degree just 2nd class upper aja, is already a certified deepwater specialist at 26, at 25 he managed to do recovery for drilling mud worth USD5M which would otherwise been a very costly disposal. Btw now at 30 is is they youngest MD of a drilling fluid plant company, a local malaysian singh and he only make 30K plus a month, which is about an expat's salary, excluding bonuses and benefits. As for me, I graduated at 29 ha ha ha, with a degree in Marketing doing part time in UPM, I make above average as a former supply chain manager for a service company, a business analyst and now I am about to let go of all that at 35. Both of us are moving on to set up our own company not related to OnG. So you're still thinking of studying eh? Hmm my former procurment assistant is now Fasttrack on MI as new Field Manager at 27, grad at 24 worked for me as procurement assistant for six months and had a hire letter from Houston. Btw she's a girl, 5 '1 a Sabahan. There's only so much that can be read from the books. In this business its all about work experience, comparing that to the basics that you have learned and building contacts.So if you still would like to read/study to me that's a big loss on your end. To me you're too old and too late to go offshore already and perhaps a teaching job or a research job would be more suited. Get off the books and start doing practical stuff. Its my advise, nak dengar x nak sudah, but you're way way way behind the curve... By the time I complete this prgm I'll be in my early 29 with 1 bachelor n 2 masters but 0 experience.<--it is a hard decision to make bro! |
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QUOTE(artline500 @ Jun 26 2010, 07:47 PM) i'm come from engineering background and currently in engineering dept in O&G company. the position and my roll is compatible. erkk...how come ur english like this?i read for 5 years to get my roll and once started working, i have to learn from scratch again. bottoline is, work experience counts more than the roll |
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Mar 26 2011, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(Tfazuin @ Jun 28 2010, 12:31 PM) Rotibakar, Very touching opinion..but THIS IS THE TRUE LIFE CYCLE..I AM VERY AGREE FOR THIS..You already have all the papers that you need, if you're serious about knowing about your work join a service company be it MI, Schlumberger, Baker, Halliburton, BJ etc , you learn more there than you will ever learn as compared to working for an Operator like Petronas, Shell etc. Go for the experience rather than the pay, the pay will come naturally. If someone who graduates late like me can do it, you can do a heck of a lot better. I've some personal friends who graduated business admin and now are Team Lead in Drilling Fluids. Business Admin bro...! He started as scratch because the company he formerly worked for as a mud logger closed shop and at 32 he had to start all over again. He's now with MI Swaco and last month is promoted to Ops Manager, special tools a good buddy of mine. As for the guy that I said is now an MD ayah dia dulu is just a lorry driver and they were so poor that they couldnt afford to change a flat wheel at the shop so had to do it on his own with him helping out. You just have to be doggone seriously motivated to get where you want to be and by all means get moving to help your family. People who have lots of money can do double, triple even double PHD, but you need to get you ass off the pedestal and improve their quality of life. Berbakti when your parents are still around, when they are no more, even if you're a millionaire it won't matter bro. To me you've made it the moment you go back to your parents and move them to a new fully furnished house or start to repair their home. If you want to wait, waitlah but lots of things can happen in 1 1/2 years, they may not be around that long to see you succeed. |
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QUOTE(roti bakar @ Jun 19 2010, 11:45 AM) Guys, how do you apply yo the master degree programme ? O_oIm 27 this yr. Bachelor's degree-Chem Eng (local U). Master's degree-HSE Eng (local U-juz completed). Working experience-negligible Received two offers last week. Offer 1: Petronas-Based in KLCC. Basic 4K Involves travelling all around the world to meet clients, requires people skill (PR). The only con- it's a non-technical position has nothing to do with my 6 yrs of tertiary education. *Once I reject this offer I have to forget tis dream company forever Offer 2: Another technical masters degree-taught in English (1.5 yrs) Based in French Petroleum Institute (Paris) Fully funded by Technip of France (not Malaysia). Upon completion I can choose to work at Technip. Surprisingly there is no bond-confirmed! (updated info) Frankly i'm a kampung boy-ultra poor- (never been on flight-not even s'pore-  !!)But I have a lots of confidence in me that I can survive tough environments. I have no dependands to support at the moment but considering my age I'm asking my self wen I gona start work, setup family, property, etc etc.. I find tis a rare opportunity.. Sifus plz shed ur thought and help me to decide...   |
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Mar 26 2011, 02:17 PM
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join petronas, it is a place for the government to spend our oil resource money to take care of a lot ppl
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To all the senior who ever attended Petronas Structured Interview, may u all share what topics and situation of CASE STUDY and ROLE PLAY given to u???
I have gone through and passede telephone chi-chat session followed by online ability test... And now i have confirmed with Petronas HR personnel that they will arrange an interview with me soon, and i want to get this job very much!!! ... I applied for engineering executive E1 position. i only hav abt 2 years of experience but without any O&G experience. so may all the senior out there pls share ur experience with me a) CASE STUDY TOPICS b) ROLE PLAY SITUATION THX FOR UR INFO AND YOUR ASSISTANT WILL BE APPRECIATED Thread i started to collect above mentioned info: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry43506921 |
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