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 dispute transaction in credit card, stollen!! can i apply for adjusment

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dr2k3
post Jun 12 2010, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(roy918 @ Jun 12 2010, 12:23 PM)
That is the report from measurements implemented by BNM and not the Credit Card Guidelines  smile.gif
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the credit card guidelines is BNM/RH/GL-014-1

but i cannot find it in BNM website = ="
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post Jun 12 2010, 04:43 PM

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Worse come to worse follow that guy and bring the bank to court lol. Got precedence somemore
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post Jun 12 2010, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Jun 12 2010, 04:43 PM)
Worse come to worse follow that guy and bring the bank to court lol. Got precedence somemore
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can we sue them for money? since they(bank) try to "fraud" us too brows.gif

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post Jun 15 2010, 03:49 AM

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Normally there's a complaint procedure to follow for each bank, the procedure may be different (probably minor) but if you followed the complaint to the "letter" than you shouldn't have any problem getting BNM's attention.

That is, if the Bank decides to ignore your complaint for some reason or doesn't respond to your query in a satisfactory manner.

The worse case scenario is either go for the normal legal process in the Courts (depending on the amount claimed by yourself) or Consumer Tribunal (who are more than happy to bash the respective banks in the name of consumer protection)

The only caveat before resorting to legal relief or process is that you are required to exhaust all avenues before you go straight to step 5. Otherwise, you might end up paying cost to the bank or open yourself up for malicious prosecution.

Step
1. Complain to bank (write in... etc.)
2. no satisfactory response
3. Go to BNM
4, no satisfactory response
5. Go to Court.
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post Jun 15 2010, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Jun 12 2010, 05:33 PM)
can we sue them for money? since they(bank) try to "fraud" us too  brows.gif
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Yes. You can even claim money for the mental torture they caused lol
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post Jun 17 2010, 07:02 PM

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last time my cc been missing ( i don't know it ) then bank called, ask whether the card with me.. i said no.. he ask where are you know, i said clinic.. he said call bank as soon as possible cause suspect stolen (well, they know it) (should i suspect my-next-roommate?transaction all done near to my house, and i didn't lock the door before i went out for clinic)

3 transaction for petrol about RM150 each within 15 minutes ... then bank negotiate but never mention that RM250 thing (my uncle mention it, and IF report the case before the theft use it)

nego nego, i think roughly paid Rm1xx.xx ... but really need to nego nego ok ?
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post Jun 17 2010, 07:52 PM

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Hmm kinda fakap i thought credit card got insurance to cover up the stolen issues or cost?
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post Dec 21 2010, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(staggerler @ Jun 10 2010, 10:28 PM)
Sadly my credit card stolen and 3 illegal transaction done..

can i apply for adjusment to withdraw from the payment?

any experience? i don't want to pay for what i'm not spending!!!
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hey,so how is ur case?
is it settle? can shares??

thanks
dr2k3
post Mar 15 2011, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(ally80 @ Dec 21 2010, 04:15 PM)
hey,so how is ur case?
is it settle? can shares??

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there is already a case similar like this brought to court and consumer win....he/she don't even need to pay the Rm250

the court even try to fine the bank for trying to charge more than Rm250

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http://www.abm.org.my/ABM%27s_Press_Statem...redit_card.aspx

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post Jan 18 2012, 05:22 PM

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is it really we have onli need to pay for maximum rm250 for this cases, because lately have a case similiar happen to me, but i am just able to make a report after the unauthorised transaction occur.. so i hope to get any 1 help me also.. thanks..
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post Mar 8 2017, 10:54 PM

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Wanted to ask, if you are a customer and you bought smtg more than 10k somewhere around (eg July) and you would like to file a dispute with the bank that you did not receive any items. Should this be done immediately or you have a plenty of time to do so becoz the bank would still entertain this case ?

Scam scenerio
July : Buyer (scammer) bought rm10k worth of items online using cc. His orders went through Succesfully (verified by marketplace). Seller did cod and sent his orders within a week (but without proof of collection by buyer eg: siggy, ic,etc )

Dec : seller being informed that buyer has filed dispute that he nvr received any items from cod. Rm10k was charged bk to seller.

My question :
seller being informed of this dispute in dec but not immediately (perhaps august, a month after he realised he did not receive any items from seller?) the gap between july and dec is far too long for the buyer to file this dispute. I wonder if the buyer really reported in aug but the bank took 3-4 months to inform the seller ? Or the bank accepts dispute regardless how long (180 days-365 days) as long as the buyer claimed he never received the items ??
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post Mar 9 2017, 08:40 AM

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Revision to Hong Leong Bank Cardholder Agreement Terms and Conditions
https://www.hlb.com.my/main/news/20170302-0...older-agreement
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post Mar 29 2017, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(kawa_e @ Mar 8 2017, 10:54 PM)
Wanted to ask, if you are a customer and you bought smtg more than 10k somewhere around (eg July) and you would like to file a dispute with the bank that you did not receive any items. Should this be done immediately or you have a plenty of time to do so becoz the bank would still entertain this case ?

Scam scenerio
July : Buyer (scammer) bought rm10k worth of items online using cc. His orders went through Succesfully (verified by marketplace). Seller did cod and sent his orders within a week (but without proof of collection by buyer eg: siggy, ic,etc )

Dec : seller being informed that buyer has filed dispute that he nvr received any items from cod. Rm10k was charged bk to seller.

My question :
seller being informed of this dispute in dec but not immediately (perhaps august, a month after he realised he did not receive any items from seller?) the gap between july and dec is far too long for the buyer to file this dispute. I wonder if the buyer really reported in aug but the bank took 3-4 months to inform the seller ? Or the bank accepts dispute regardless how long (180 days-365 days) as long as the buyer claimed he never received the items ??
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I only know about Visa, but i believe MC and AMEX is generally the same.

For item did not receive, the timeframe is 120 calendar day from the date of purchase made. However, for things like pre-order or items that requires long lead time, the time frame can change to 120 days from date of expected delivery or 120 days from the day card holder aware of the item could not be fulfilled.

So for your question, it depends on the item that seller is selling. If it is, lets say a bread, then seller can dispute as it passed 120 days and is unreasonable to wait for ~5 months to file dispute. But if it is something that requires long lead time, then yes, buyer can definitely ask for charge back.

But lost a charged back dispute doesnt mean the seller lost the case, and all item / money is gone. It just means that buyer keep item without paying. Something like a bounced cheque. So in this case, seller can proceed with court case to get back the money.

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