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 dispute transaction in credit card, stollen!! can i apply for adjusment

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post Jun 11 2010, 09:58 AM

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i think should be enough....they have this 30 days thing
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post Jun 11 2010, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Jun 11 2010, 11:53 AM)
most cards now have maximum liability of RM250 right?
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but you can put all the blame on the merchant right? ask the merchant to absorb all the unauthorized transaction since they allow this to happen in the first place without verification

how about unauthorized transaction without loss card...like online transaction?
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post Jun 11 2010, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Jun 11 2010, 01:21 PM)
How are they to verify? Not every merchant asked for IC. Even then I can put the name that appears on my card whatever I like so it's kinda impossible to verify. Well those transaction can happen even without loss card and even then the transaction might be done using clone cards.
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i thought you cannot clone credit card anymore since they got this smart chip thingy?

how do you put your name on the card? the name on the card is like engrave wording

if merchant didn't ask for IC it's their fault right? if im not wrong merchant in US ask for ID card when you want to pay by CC

im confused about the Rm250

250 means max we pay for 250 regardless of how much the unauthorize transaction

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bank only protect you for RM250 only...thats mean if RM1k unauthorized transaction i need to pay 750?


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Under the law, a consumer's obligation for unauthorized use of a card is only $50. This means, for example, that if a card is stolen, the credit card lender can only charge you a maximum of $50 no matter how much the thief has charged on the card.


this is for US...just want to use it for comparison

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post Jun 11 2010, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(pmsoo @ Jun 11 2010, 01:44 PM)
I purchased from many retail outlets in US with my credit card, the only shop that bothers to ask for identification is Gamestop. The rest couldn't care less.

bank only protect you for RM250 only...thats mean if RM1k unauthorized transaction you need to pay 750
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crap....US law is much better.....

RM250 = = no protection at all........
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post Jun 12 2010, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jun 12 2010, 02:44 AM)
To TS:

This should answer all your headaches, heartache, sleepless nights and so on. I have seen this article before. Its a landmark case for credit card and the RM 250 myth.

http://www.mmail.com.my/content/consumer-victory-chee-court-upholds-rm250-cap-lost-credit-cards


Added on June 12, 2010, 2:51 amIf you report immediately to the Bank...

Whatever unauthorised amount incurred on the card, you will not be liable for it. The Bank will pay.

If you report like 7 days later even though you BLATANTLY knew your card is lost or stolen...

Than the bank's liability will be limited up to RM 250.
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"I lodged a complaint with Bank Negara but no action was taken by the Central Bank to enforce the guidelines it had issued," Chee told Malay Mail. "I also didn't receive any conclusive reply to my complaint."


BNM is useless....
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post Jun 12 2010, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(roy918 @ Jun 12 2010, 10:20 AM)
There is no such thing in BNM's credit card guidelines released in 2003. Credit card issuer can cover ALL fraud transactions.
Clause 13.2 of Bank Negara's Credit Card Guideline (can't get the source from BNM but it can be found somewhere and it was quoted by leongal before).
Highlighted part can be an argument as BNM doesn't define it.

"The cardholder's maximum liability for unauthorised transactions as a consequence of a lost or stolen credit card shall be confined to a limit specified by the issuer of credit cards, which shall not exceed RM250 provided the cardholder has not acted fraudulently or has not failed to inform the issuer of credit cards as soon as reasonably practicable after having found that his credit card is lost or stolen."
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it's stated in BNM...just the guideline damn hard to find...not sure if its consider official but i found in BNM website

http://www.bnm.gov.my/files/publication/ar...box_banking.pdf

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:...EMYjMTH3c8VekAw
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post Jun 12 2010, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(roy918 @ Jun 12 2010, 12:23 PM)
That is the report from measurements implemented by BNM and not the Credit Card Guidelines  smile.gif
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the credit card guidelines is BNM/RH/GL-014-1

but i cannot find it in BNM website = ="
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post Jun 12 2010, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Jun 12 2010, 04:43 PM)
Worse come to worse follow that guy and bring the bank to court lol. Got precedence somemore
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can we sue them for money? since they(bank) try to "fraud" us too brows.gif

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post Mar 15 2011, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(ally80 @ Dec 21 2010, 04:15 PM)
hey,so how is ur case?
is it settle? can shares??

thanks
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there is already a case similar like this brought to court and consumer win....he/she don't even need to pay the Rm250

the court even try to fine the bank for trying to charge more than Rm250

Association Bank of Malaysia

http://www.abm.org.my/ABM%27s_Press_Statem...redit_card.aspx

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http://www.freedebtmanagementprogram.com/a...ank-negara.html

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