So i got offers from both companies.

Perodua:
Position: PE (production Engineer), setting up lines, improving tack time etc.
Good: goes to Japan a lot, low living cost in Rawang, i think PE knowledge is also useful in other industries
Bad: The work condition in the Rawang Plant is a bit bad, the canteen, toilets etc. Bukit Berunting (rawang) is almost like a lawless cowboy town.

Toyota:
Position: QA (quality assessment), do studies, countermeasures and followup based on customer feedback of sold Toyota cars
Good: a bit higher salary, its Toyota!!, i love cars and my work will directly involve cars, office looks very nice
Bad: as a car QA, my knowledge area will be limited, in other words hard to jump industry. They wont send me to Japan

Bonus wise, both give pretty much the same, and here's the fun part, the toyota guy said that if i joined UMW Toyota, i cant jump ship to Perodua, and vice versa, since they have an agrement etc. Dunno bout Toyota Autobody (the new plant in S21).

Friends and family are rooting for Toyota they said better brand name, work in office, not getting killed by banglas in B.Beruntung. To me the main attraction of Perodua is going to Japan. (not for training)

Also I'm still wondering, about the career prospect of a QA engineer... is it as bad is i wrote above? PE i know, almost every manufacturer needs them, but a QA eng. for Toyota probably gonna end up retiring in another car company (which aren't that big/many) in malaysia.


Unrelated to above: Toyota Autobody (OEM manufacturer) is urgently in need of Engineers (ME, EE etc), prefer japanese speaker, PM for details.

This post has been edited by AlexFancypants: Jun 10 2010, 03:02 PM

huh...your description above is already says which one u are leaning to..take toyota..if you really want to go to japan,i'm sure you can go there with your toyota salary

I believe what you learn from MNC is different with local company.
The culture, environment and etc. If you are fresh graduate, joining
MNC will give you some advantage when you looking for another job
after few years there.

For PE and QA, every manufacturer will need both. PE is in the production
line which incharge for the product and improve the tact time, efficiency and etc.
QA will need to check the quality of the product before the item is ship out but
most of the time is sampling.

Ask for career development in Toyota, how far can QA go, career path etc..

As for occasion, you can go anytime when you rich la bro..

Eenie Meenie Miney Mo? If you were to ask me, go for Honda. http://www.honda.co.jp/ASIMO/

Regards, Joey

I am curious. You want to work or you want to go to Japan?

Maybe he thinks working is the same as playing.

I was with Perodua PE before. To be honest, PE is a very big department. Under PE you hv another 6-7 sub departments. The man power are approximately 100+ (mostly engineers). It covers every single process of making a car from raw material (scratch) up to the complete built unit.

You'll learn a lot of new things. The opportunity to work in Japan is always there especially when new model development kicks off in which you'll work together with Daihatsu engineers at their plants (osaka etc.) Although the base model (toyota/daihatsu) is already manufactured few months earlier than P2 edition, the challenges is to absorb the technologies in Japan and adapt it to our local plant. This is when our local engineers become champions. The Japs might be the advisors at rawang plant, but it's malaysian local engineers who came up with suitable countermeasures to keep our production line running.

I suppose the choice is with you. By the way im currently working with toyota shah alam. Working with P2 has been a great stepping stone for me as they offer abundance of learning opprtunities for me to grow as a career man as well as a person.

Gd luck. Damn ! i really hate giving long comments.

This post has been edited by mikahluramak: Jun 11 2010, 11:22 AM

TS is willing to risk getting killed by bangla for a free trip to japan

I think the choice is pretty clear.

Let's say one day u decide to move elsewhere overseas.....in your resume, u say u work with Perodua before...and the employer says "Who's Perodua?".

Then again, toyota lately is not getting a good rep...but regardless, it's a no brainer choice for me to join the bigger known "brand".

On the other hand, do you really want to work for an employer who only looks at where you work, rather than how you can benefit the organization?

I'd rather hire a executive from Perodua than a manager from Toyota if they can prove that they provide better ROI to my organization.

Lol, for a car company that price local car at a bit cheaper than heavily taxed imported car, somemore at a country where public transport are almost useless, forcing public to buy them though they should be much much cheaper and expect that they perform well financially, IMO, is not real success, simply monopoly via government support. Where you work is one thing but those company is not simply "famous" by picking riftraft to work for them.

But ya, I myself would pick those who can provide better ROI too regardless where they came from. But truth to tell, first one I would consider to interview are those from a company I know rthat is famous. By that I mean u get better advantage in terms of filtering applicants from a company that has better track record.

I will take produa. Being a protected car manufacturer they have higher sales. That means work. More experience.

THE TOYOTA WAY!!!!!!!!

GO toyota!!!

Toyota provide as much as 80% revenue for UMW Group.... bonus is good!

Join them!!

so Perodua changed their offer, from Production Engineering to Factory Maintenance... blah, dream of going back to japan crushed

I pick Toyota, since QA/QC seems to be more interesting then Maintenance... also i'll make my mom, relatives, gf, cat, etc happy... (although i suspect they just want to buy staff priced Vios'es under my name ). Just hope UMW Toyota is good as ppl say there are

anyways, thanks for the insight guys , i guess tred kolos now?

This post has been edited by AlexFancypants: Jun 23 2010, 01:56 AM

No for Toyota Autobody (Seksyen 26), i've been there before, not as good as Toyota ASSB (Seksyen 15)

You can ask people's opinion but go with your heart which ever is good for you.
For example as yr statement mention that yr car QA knowledge will be limited.....then search on google or read manuals to get more info...Dun expect all the answer will drop fr sky for you.... Hope this would help u...

have u work at assb before?...how's the working environment?

If you are looking for benefit, then Perodua pawns Toyota any time. Average 6 month bonus, 1 week cuti raya, 1 week cuti raya haji, even 1 week cuti mid year (factory maintenance).

Toyota?

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This post has been edited by seantang: Apr 22 2012, 11:30 PM

Old thread.
anybody from MAI AICE proggramme training in p2 and now working in p2? It was easy for AICE graduates to be absorb to permanent?

I dont think they will absorb you into p2. Most likely they will send you off to vendors. I'm an AICE batch 7 engineers.

both are almost similiar in Production/Quality..
but if me, I will go for TOYOTA..
Bonus $$

y not consider work in Toyota service centre? U get more exposed as like customer service, internal customer service, hands on on many thing. Rather than sit in production line seems like wont go anywhere to improve the skill rather than everyday follow 5S.

No one from your batch was absorbed to 1year contract/permanent? Are you send off to vendor by p2 or are you looking by yourself?

Train in cyberjaya. Straightly went to vendor after it finished then worked my way up since then. Now in a MNC company.

toyota first. Anytime can go to perodua..