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 How many ppl here are actually doing phd?, Many topics here arent PhD stuff..

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post Jul 9 2010, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(spikyz @ Jul 9 2010, 01:53 AM)
Thats reasearch right? u tot u got something, then another challenge coming in, over n over. Sometimes it is fun , but most of d time its annoying and demotivating, haha but at the end of d day, i like "playing" this game.  tongue.gif
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Yeap, I'm doing research for MSc, I still want to study, but hate going for classes. yeah...i like "playing" the game too. My supervisor once said "Face ur fear...the reward is sweet".
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post Jul 9 2010, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(spikyz @ Jul 9 2010, 01:53 AM)
Me, my funding is from NSF (MOSTI), well.. i kantoi biasiswa Agong last year, i think d interviewer really hates me. seriously, and she even know my prof, so during the interview she kinda badmouth my prof alil bit and tease here and there, aih screw them la.
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wow...biasiswa agong...that's a tough one...but the interview panel is not that professional though...have a friend that told me her experience during the interview..
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post Jul 9 2010, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(spikyz @ Jul 9 2010, 01:53 AM)
Well, im under Faculty of Engineering actually, under AI department. I cant remember d full name dat my prof used to describe the department, haha
Thats reasearch right? u tot u got something, then another challenge coming in, over n over. Sometimes it is fun , but most of d time its annoying and demotivating, haha but at the end of d day, i like "playing" this game.  tongue.gif
Me, my funding is from NSF (MOSTI), well.. i kantoi biasiswa Agong last year, i think d interviewer really hates me. seriously, and she even know my prof, so during the interview she kinda badmouth my prof alil bit and tease here and there, aih screw them la.
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Oh, cool, never knew there's AI Dept under Engineering. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 10 2010, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(Sargeant Pepper @ Jul 9 2010, 02:01 AM)
Yeap, I'm doing research for MSc, I still want to study, but hate going for classes. yeah...i like "playing" the game too. My supervisor once said "Face ur fear...the reward is sweet".
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Sweet and sour at the same time bro, haha nway how ur MSc summer project =)?

QUOTE(highwind85 @ Jul 9 2010, 08:01 AM)
wow...biasiswa agong...that's a tough one...but the interview panel is not that professional though...have a friend that told me her experience during the interview..
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Well, not sure about that thou. my panel last time is, one datin from SIRIM, very high ranking wan (this is d one dat keep attacking me), den got another 2 fella from which uni i cant remember.

QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Jul 9 2010, 12:13 PM)
Oh, cool, never knew there's AI Dept under Engineering. biggrin.gif
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I tot its under CS as well, ahah but yeah my project, i can say AI is main part, but i do have alot of other main part belong to engineering as well =)
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post Jul 10 2010, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(spikyz @ Jul 10 2010, 01:32 AM)
Well, not sure about that thou. my panel last time is, one datin from SIRIM, very high ranking wan (this is d one dat keep attacking me), den got another 2 fella from which uni i cant remember.
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My friend's panel know her supervisor well (she's worked as RA while trying to secure funds to go overseas)...and the panel kept on telling her that her supervisor is very good and she should continue her PhD here and stuffs like the university really needs someone like her calibre...and thus denied her a scholarship to go overseas...
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post Jul 10 2010, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(highwind85 @ Jul 10 2010, 07:26 AM)
My friend's panel know her supervisor well (she's worked as RA while trying to secure funds to go overseas)...and the panel kept on telling her that her supervisor is very good and she should continue her PhD here and stuffs like the university really needs someone like her calibre...and thus denied her a scholarship to go overseas...
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did your friend apply for other scholarships?
Sound like that panel is just giving a stupid reason to not giving out the scholarship for her only. yawn.gif

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post Jul 10 2010, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Dark Lord @ Jul 10 2010, 06:18 PM)
did your friend apply for other scholarships?
Sound like that panel is just giving a stupid reason to not giving out the scholarship for her only. yawn.gif
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yup...luckily she persevered and is now in the same university as i am...she is here 1 year earlier than me...
that's why i say the panel she met isn't professional...
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post Jul 11 2010, 12:30 AM

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wow.....so there are a few dr. here xD Just wanna ask a few question here
1)is there a limit time for you to complete your phd?
2)While doing ur phd,do you work or full time studying?
3)are you guys read a lots of books?except ur textbook.....
4)How old are you guys?bcoz normally i see my sch lecturer with Dr. also aunty uncle ad rclxms.gif
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post Jul 11 2010, 03:29 AM

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QUOTE(crazylkm @ Jul 11 2010, 12:30 AM)
wow.....so there are a few dr. here xD Just wanna ask a few question here
1)is there a limit time for you to complete your phd?
2)While doing ur phd,do you work or full time studying?
3)are you guys read a lots of books?except ur textbook.....
4)How old are you guys?bcoz normally i see my sch lecturer with Dr. also aunty uncle ad rclxms.gif
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1) there is depending on the university and country...Malaysia and Aus is 5 years for full time...US is longer
2) depends on what field you're in...if you have to do your research in the lab, it's difficult to work other than lab demonstrator or tutor...
3) more on research articles i guess...text books are for fundamentals...these are long established knowledge...research articles have latest developments on the other hand..
4) i'm 25 this year...if things go smoothly, i should graduate in 3-4 years..(this could be affected by the PhD systems of different countries as well)
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post Jul 11 2010, 05:04 AM

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Hm. It normally takes about 3 - 4 year for a full-time student in Monash to graduate.

I'll be 30 later this year. Our first PhD in IT just graduated. At the age of 25. Yikes!
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post Jul 11 2010, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(VMSmith @ Jul 11 2010, 05:04 AM)
Hm. It normally takes about 3 - 4 year for a full-time student in Monash to graduate.

I'll be 30 later this year. Our first PhD in IT just graduated. At the age of 25. Yikes!
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wow...25...that's really young...
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post Jul 11 2010, 04:44 PM

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so many phd here? seems like u go to pasar malam simply talk to someone they will be a phd holder.. unsure.gif
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post Jul 11 2010, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ Jul 11 2010, 04:44 PM)
so many phd here? seems like u go to pasar malam simply talk to someone they will be a phd holder.. unsure.gif
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not that much if you consider our number here versus the number of total lyn members....besides, all of us are doing something different...
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post Jul 11 2010, 05:25 PM

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wow....and i wanna ask do guys work now?if didn't work,then need to wait until phd gratuate(30yrs old),go for work then only can give ur parents money lo?haha.....im noob
Does phd got fail or something?research articles is from other researcher and u guys take it for references?and i always heard about phd will do something named defend thesis,what is defend thesis?
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post Jul 11 2010, 05:34 PM

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Yup 30 yrs old only work. So old only start earning money and before that parents need survive on their own. When 30 yrs old come out work oso wont get high pay because is consider non experrience worket just like those fresh grad 23 yrs old come out work.

Defend thesis is to get the phd degree where u need to present your research and panel will question your research.
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QUOTE(crazylkm @ Jul 11 2010, 05:25 PM)
wow....and i wanna ask do guys work now?if didn't work,then need to wait until phd gratuate(30yrs old),go for work then only can give ur parents money lo?haha.....im noob
Does phd got fail or something?research articles is from other researcher and u guys take it for references?and i always heard about phd will do something named defend thesis,what is defend thesis?
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It is possible to fail...if the panel decides that your research is up to standard, you'll get MPhil instead of PhD...
Haha..at least you depend on your own for the PhD studies...If you are good with financial management, you'll be able to save enough money to buy house or car.
I personally have a friend who studied his PhD in USM....He already bought his 1st property..

"PhD grads are considered fresh grads"
Yup..no question about that..but the salary you get definitely isn't 23 year old fresh grad salary...just that your salary will be lower compared to your peers who has more than 5 years of working experience..In malaysia fresh PhD grads earn around rm4k -rm5k, depending on field and position..
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I doubt u can buy a house from saving phd allowance. Maybe low cost flat that cost rm40k? A car maybe but im sure is not like those ppl already working.

I see the people i know once they start working maybe after 1 or 2 yrs start buying honda city and big big cars
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QUOTE(f4tE @ Jul 11 2010, 06:02 PM)
I doubt u can buy a house from saving phd allowance. Maybe low cost flat that cost rm40k? A car maybe but im sure is not like those ppl already working.

I see the people i know once they start working maybe after 1 or 2 yrs start buying honda city and big big cars
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He is my best friend...a condominium worth rm300k...you can do it if you manage well..
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post Jul 11 2010, 07:28 PM

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then his parents must be rich or he got help in somewat.. no way someone who is not yet working can afford to buy that. Rubbish if u say he save up phd money as much as 300k.

As far as i know highest allowance can get is rm2500 from NSF. Even if u save up everything and dont use at all u can only manage to get 2500 X 12 X 3 = 90k

Or maybe he did his phd for 10 yrs laugh.gif
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QUOTE(f4tE @ Jul 11 2010, 07:28 PM)
then his parents must be rich or he got help in somewat.. no way someone who is not yet working can afford to buy that. Rubbish if u say he save up phd money as much as 300k.

As far as i know highest allowance can get is rm2500 from NSF. Even if u save up everything and dont use at all u can only manage to get 2500 X 12 X 3 = 90k

Or maybe he did his phd for 10 yrs laugh.gif
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It is not impossible just because you don't know how..i know his family and his family is not the extremely rich type..and his parents has two younger children to support..
are you thinking you can only buy a house with only cash? even a rich person isn't going to pay the house in full with cash...he started his PhD last year..

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