huhhhh???

Just curious, are they working on saturday?

Ya and it sucks!

i had a bad experience with recruitment firm too.. they call me up several time and keep on ask me to go for an interview (whereby i alr told them based on the JD i felt i m not the right candicate..) yet they keep on presue me n tell me they alr submit my resume to the client company and the company wish to meet me up.. then i saw she so keen, so i ask her to sent me the address.. then when i open the mail.. cham.. it was actual my sister company is hiring. mean hor.. my boss, my sister comapny ppl know i m looking for job and want to leave de.. cham cham now.. my bonus is gone soon i believe...

1. I usually dont insist if you are not interested. Its a no-win situation usually.

2. Your boss might not know unless the sister company hiring manager tells your boss. in any case, just say you were interested in opportunity in sister company hence your application. If you lose your bonus because of this, I dont' think your current company is savvy to the word "staff retention" in which case greener pasture might be a good idea after all.

I'll make a rant today.

Sometime (actually very often) the client will send over a JD:

requirement:
bachelor in xxx, master prefer
must xxx year exp
must mnc
must expereince in <insert looooong list here>
prefer to have cert <insert loooong list here>
rm cheap cheap rate

Hiring managers sometime want someone who knows everything and expects to be paid peanuts.
Its part of our job as recruiter to educate them on the reality of the job market as well as maange their expectations. True enough, they;d probably take their business elsewhere but its better than us wasting our time finding the candidate for them to reject, and end up the client label us as incompetent.

if you want to find superman, go to planet krypton. planet earth no superman.

Hi I'm from Best Mark International Referral Firm.

I understand yours and many other Agensi Pekerjaan's problem.

Bear in mind, No one can black list you. It's used only to scare you because they have already arranged the interview for you and it would appear to be bad on their end if they were to tell the employer that "Oh, the candidate is not interested anymore"

First of all, this "Akar Insan" or Talent Lab ... you must know they get paid commission, and they would usually tell their clients that they have the "Right" people for the job and so forth. Thus, a rejection from a candidate is a huge NONO to them. C'mon what policy and crap are they talking about? did you sign any papers with them? is it in black and white?

No, they can't black list you from all employers, except that they will just put an "Earmark" on your name so they won't bother calling you the next time. Because profit is all they think about and there's nothing worse than getting a good candidate with high potential of getting a job declining to go for an interview.

The next time anyone "threatens" you, just tell them, Can you guarantee me the job + expectation even if I were to go for the Interview? Of course, do bear in mind that if you do this too often, your name will be tarnished in the job market. Because these Job Agencies have their own "community" where they meet up once in the blue moon and discuss about the trends and etc. So, if one of them decides to be funny and slander you, that's it for you.

Always remember there are ethical Job Agencies out there with License and is practicing proper recruitment procedures and process. So, they are not all that bad, it's those without a license tarnishing the industry. Bear that in mind.

For more information feel free to drop by my website Best Mark International to see how we can help you plan your career and achieve your long term goal.

Ha ha ha, promoting your agency by tarnishing other's reputation. That is sooo unethical things to do.

So free to slander a candidate when you guys meet up? Lol.

AKAR INSAN SDN BHD SUCK BIG TIME ,THEY SO CALLED GCEO AIDIL YUNUS REALLY ACT LIKE AMBIGA AND HIS FOLOWERS TOO . F THEM WITH THE ATTITUDE WITH THAT NO WONDER THE COMPANY NEVER SUCCEED ONLY TALK BIG PLUS NO MANNERS AS MALAYSIAN AT ALL .

Wow.... look like negative comments more than positive comments. Anyway, received SMS from Akar Insan S/B. Offering Banking opportunities. I just wonder where they got our contact information...

OK I saw this thread and just wanna ask about this thing if you sign a contract with recruitment agencies (let's say 9 months) and if you quit before the completion of the contract, are you expected to pay 50% of your salary to them?

I understand Kelly Services do make candidates sign a form as soon as they register with them that if they do quit the job, they have to compensate 50% of their salary to them.


Also, my other question is, why do recruitment agencies do the payroll instead of the direct company? what is in it for them and why can't the company just pay directly to the employer and why use all these contracts bla bla bla?

Not sure what type of form you have signed. is taht 50% of what, how many months of salary?

I doubt so, if they do that no one will want to commit such liability to them.


Recruitment agencies offer payroll services to direct company because its part of outsourcing arrangements.

Actually when a recruitment firm says its "company confidential" that means the job is not real. Usually serious recruitment firms with real jobs will dislose the name of company once you say you are interested (assuming they got your resume) If they do not disclose to you then it is very high chance that it is only a puller-ads. This is so that they can "pull" candidates in for a number of reasons. Some of the reasons including 1) traning the recruitment newbies to interview people (aka test rat i.e. the newbie will get to do real life interview with you for a job that does not exist to boost confidence and skill of newbie so that they can do a proper interview if they have a real job) 2. So that they can update their database with your particulars, just in case there are future employers who are interested in your set of skills. 3) To have a ready pool of candidates so that when they go "pitch" for jobs with an employer, they can boast and say that they have x no. of people who are within what the employers are looking for.

thats a nice agency. those i work with before had real job orders.

What a load of bulls*1t. At the end of the day whether its you (as an individual) or others, its all about making money (i.e. yr commission). If that particular candidate has the skills to match what yr client (employer) wants, i think all the agencies will send the candidates CV irregardless, in hopes that the candidate will turn up and accept the offer. After all everbody only thinks about yr commission, screw the reputation

screw them all..

Most HR agencies that have approached me over the years are getting from bad to worse!
Some will promise you the world, and never come to you.
Others will tell you to stay in touch, but they've left the firm.

Many of these individuals don't have any sense of integrity at all.
They only say what they want, do what they want, just for the friggin' $$$. Nothing more.
They've left their humanity part of life.

If given a better choice, it's best to just hook up with circle of contacts who have direct links to the company's hiring manager.
Skip the online crap (like JobStreet, LinkedIn, etc.), as well as, HR agencies; and go direct !!

I'm not sure why companies bother to hire HR agencies to do their work when they've their own HR personnel to do just that.

How about Kelly services?

I had bright prospect in pj last year. I was looking for a contract job and willing to try all sorts of companies since I've no working experience. I applied job A from them on jobstreet, and got call from them for a face-to-face interview. Get my details and requirements like preferred areas, company's field etc. Few days later they came back to me with job B interview, I didn't get that offer and job C interview was quickly arranged.

They really give me a good impression towards recruitment agencies.