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Ramjade
post Oct 6 2021, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(CharmaineLee80 @ Oct 6 2021, 11:55 AM)
Anyone open DBS POSB account successfully at SG branch ?

I read that foreigner (non working permit holder, sg student) can go physically to DBS POSB branch to open account. But some being rejected also.
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Me. But that was years ago when 1mbdb exploded. Which because of it made our life harder to open.

You can't open at branch. They will reject you. You need to go to their HQ at MBFC, and open an extra DBS Vickers account or else you will be denied opening a DBS/POSB account. That's their condition.

Very useful to store USD.

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post Oct 6 2021, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(cryzord @ Oct 6 2021, 12:22 PM)
Thanks for all feedbacks. Apologize i may not be clear at d first place. Basically i received the invoice from seller and need to transfer SGD to their company account in Spore, 1st transaction need to be done in this week, and there will be more to come. Hence instead of using concentional bank TT, looking for any other alternative way, appreciate your advice.
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If sending money, no brainer to use Sunway money. It's the cheapest.

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post Oct 6 2021, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(cryzord @ Oct 6 2021, 12:28 PM)
Will give it a try, thanks alot
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I think Sunway money opening account may take more than a week.
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post Oct 6 2021, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Oct 6 2021, 12:35 PM)
And for most people need to physically visit a location for verification. Their auto KYC system like a bit fail one.
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I used their eKYC long long time ago. No issues from my side. No need visit physical location.
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post Oct 6 2021, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(CharmaineLee80 @ Oct 6 2021, 02:08 PM)
can we use Sunway money to fund TD Ameritrade?

I know DBS POSB no charge USD25 to deposit into TD Ameritrade account.
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You can try. I know that they only accept dbs/posb officially. I don't think can go through as its third party name. Not under your name. But I know they accept other sg banks. Only deposit takes longer like 3 days.

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post Oct 7 2021, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(CharmaineLee80 @ Oct 7 2021, 03:10 PM)
Ramjade, for other SG bank (eg: CIMB SG account) does TD Ameritrade charge USD25 ?
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Regardless of bank, TD will always charge USD25/withdrawal. There's no free withdrawal with TD.
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post Oct 28 2021, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(Trees @ Oct 26 2021, 09:13 PM)
is there anyone using cimb sg to transfer to tda sg? if so, how was the usual process?
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Unofficially it works but take damn long. FAST transfer should work. Worse come to worse, money rejected and refund to you.

QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 28 2021, 02:21 PM)
Just to confirm for those who use DBS My account in SG, there will be charges of 10 SGD for inward remittance fee right regardless of whether you transfer in SGD or USD from IBKR (or other broker)?

I will be going to SG next year for my research exchange for a few months, plan to open the My account there with my work pass.
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DBS will always charge USD10 (whichever currency denomination for incoming money - if I am not mistake) for all TT regardless of currency. Use FAST transfer to move SGD. Cannot avoid. Only way is
1) be priority and customer and ask for waiver
2) use eCheque to move USD in SG (some banks have those feature)
3) If you use tiger it's free as money is tiger money is held with DBS.
4) Unofficially you can try withdrawing USD in GIRO (not sure will be charged by DBS side or not)

One way to get cheap rates for your HKD
Cimb SG/DBS -> SGD -> Interactive broker -> convert using Interactive broker into USD -> convert again into HKD -> withdraw to your HK bank account.




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post Oct 28 2021, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 28 2021, 10:55 PM)
There is an SGD.HKD currency pair in IB, so no need to go through USD as the middleman. I barely transfer money to HK, usually money (scholarships) go out of HK to SG bank account.

But anyway thanks for info. So it seems withdrawal from IB to SG local bank account only CIMB SG waives the inward remittance fee. DBS My account then will be for USD withdrawal in case of emergency for me.
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Thanks for the new info about SGD.HKD. Er you do know that you it's difficult to move USD around in SG Vs HK right? I believed you can do like a FAST transfer for USD in HK but not in SG.

In SG, you are only limited to
1) cheque
2) TT
3) Same bank transfer for USD.
When you want to move USD.

Been trying to look for something like FAST for USD but seems the tech isn't available in SG yet. Based off chat with customer service.

QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Oct 28 2021, 11:05 PM)
Just this week, I have tried the WISE digital remmitance.
My conclusion are..
Large sum or small sum, what you gets is clearly stated on their apps and no hidden charges.
Their apps is easy to use which allows me to track favourable exchange rates and lock in for the next 48hrs pending your payment. (I used online bank transfer to local WISE DBS bank account.)
Everything is spontaneous and no down time using their apps, just lie in bed and had everything done with a few clicks.
Money arrived as stated with live tracking of the money. My local bank CIMB credited the money to my account instantly too.
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Use Sunway money. You will get better rates.
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post Oct 28 2021, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 28 2021, 11:48 PM)
Ya, you are referring to CHATS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearing_Hous...Transfer_System

It's free for my Hang Seng bank account, but not available on certain digital banks like Mox.

https://www.hangseng.com/content/dam/hase/c...l_e_jul2021.pdf

https://www.hkicl.com.hk/files/page_file/11...20%28Eng%29.pdf

But scholarship amount not much these days, some source of funds come from personal savings in the past, so usually that money goes straight to SG banks and get transferred to USD from there as I may reserve some SGDs for emergency use/SG shares too.
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Kind of curious why SG don't have such tech when HK have it. Like they want to fight with HK but lack such crucial simple tech.

Not to mention they don't use fingerprint for withdrawal. I got a shock as Malaysia already using fingerprint to withdraw.
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post Oct 29 2021, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 28 2021, 11:58 PM)
What kind of verification method do they use for withdrawal?
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Signature, IC/passport. That was like 7 years ago. Not sure what's the latest.

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post Oct 31 2021, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(lyyera96 @ Oct 31 2021, 08:02 PM)
Hi, whether Malaysian can open the HSBC Singapore bank account without Singapore address?
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Can. But must be priority banking. Do you have the moo to cough up Rm250k and lock it with them?

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post Oct 31 2021, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(lyyera96 @ Oct 31 2021, 08:57 PM)
I have HSBC Malaysia account, this is my company salary account but just 3 figure only in my bank account doh.gif  doh.gif
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Go with CIMB sg. You do t even need priority banking. All you nee dia just SGD1000 to open. I keep mine with SGD0.10 only inside.
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post Oct 31 2021, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(lyyera96 @ Oct 31 2021, 09:50 PM)
So there is no choice for Malaysian??? CIMB SG I also have bank account for me but TT transfer fee very high then before I Google found HSBC SG if you perform TT via online will be free. So that why I curious whether Malaysian can open HSBC SG bank account.
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Got choice. See whether you have the money or not.

If you don't have money limited to only
1) CIMB sg
2) Maybank sg
3) DBS SG need to visit their HQ to open
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post Nov 2 2021, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(EDD-ed @ Nov 2 2021, 12:04 AM)
How does one open an account with DBS SG, does it have to be done physically in Singapore or KL branch is enough ?

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I already wrote there need to visit their HQ. They dont have HQ in Malaysia.

1 You need to fly or take a train or bus into Singapore.
2. Bring at least SGD10k (to make your journey worth it)
3. Go to marina bay financial center via smrt
4. Go to DBS HQ ask for DBS Vickers account with DBS bank account.
5. You need to open Vickers or else you won't get the bank account at all. It's their requirement. You don't need to fund it or use it.
Take whatever account they give you. Don't bargain.
6. Deposit in the SGD10k.
7. After 6 months and 1 day, open DBS MY account via online.
8.Transfer money into DBS MY account from previous DBS/posb account.
9. Close your current DBS/POSB account online.


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post Nov 4 2021, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(KenYoung @ Nov 4 2021, 05:42 PM)
cimb sg closed my acc few months back after for using over a year and a half....
then i asked my sister open 1 so i could use hers... now hers will b closed as well.. even tho i pleged 10k FD there d... lol. fken sensitive
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Call them up and asked reason for account closure? I have been using them for don't know how many years and nothing happened. It must be something you did with your account.

Another alternative is write to MAS and complain. Unlike our BNM, they are willing to watch out for the retail guys.

Another alternative is faster go open a Maybank isavvy account.
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post Nov 10 2021, 03:58 PM

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[quote=puremage111,Nov 9 2021, 11:17 PM]
Aside from CIMB SG

Is there any other way to open a SG Bank as a foreigner? (Not working there)
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[quote=!@#$%^,Nov 9 2021, 11:21 PM]
so poor ppl limited to cimb and maybank only?
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See TOS reply above

Basically that's it. Poor people are limited to CIMB Sg and Maybank SG. Unless you want to travel to SG and have SGD3k ready in cash.
Then you have option to try luck for DBS bank account. If you want to travel DBS account out of question.

If you are willing to travel, the steps below will help one to get a DBS bank account.

This method might take few steps but will save you quite a lot of money going into the future.
1.. Fly into Singapore and undergo their quarantine if necessary. Now Malaysia can fly outside. Use this opportunity.
2. After finishing your quarantine, take MRT or bus to Marina bay financial center.
3. Go to DBS HQ and tell them you want to open DBS Multiplier account/My account (yes the name is called My account) together with DBS Vickers. Very important for you to mentioned DBS Vickers. This is the criteria for you to open account is Malaysian. Dbs vickers is their stock broker account. You don't need to use it or fund it also can. But if you want their account, you need a DBS Vickers account. Be prepared to wait 3-4 hours there. I waited 3-4 hours there.

What is this DBS multiplier/My account?
It's a Multicurrency account that you can hold yes 10 types of currency including USD. You can use it to received, hold and send USD. Tried and tested myself.
Best of all you only pay USD10.00 for all incoming USD. Yup that's it.

Why DBS My account?
Dbs multiplier need to you to maintain SGD3000 at all time or else if it drop below SGD 3k, you will be charged I believed SGD5.00/month.
Now with DBS My account I only keep SGD0.10 inside as there no minimum amount (stated in their T&C). True story. Didn't believed it until I tested it.
More info here.
https://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/deposits/sa...nts/my-account]

What happen if they refuse to let you open My account?
No issue. Just take whatever account they give you. But I thought you said to get My account. Yes. That's right. But most important is get account with DBS bank.
After 6 months, you can open a DBS My account online and close your DBS multiplier and transfer all your SGD/USD into your new My account. I waited for 7 months before doing that. They mentioned in their terms and condition I believed need to wait 6 months before closing account biggrin.gif

Remember to ask for their DBS Debit visa card. This card lets you spend like a local. Which means if you have USD in your bank account, it will automatically use the USD account first before they use the SGD part. No additional charged. Alternative use Bigpay.

4. Now that's all set up, fly back to Malaysia.

5. Quarantine again in Malaysia if needed.

6. Once at home, open interactive broker account here.
https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/home.php. Make sure to fund it with at least SGD7.00. You can use the DBS account to fund the interactive broker via FAST transfer (SG version of Duitnow/IBFT).
https://betterspider.com/funding-your-accou...ractivebrokers/

So that means you need about SGD3007 in total.

Why interactive broker? It doesn't make any sense.
Interactive broker give you the best exchange rate anywhere on the planet for all currency. It's spot rates (real time market rates without any markup) and best of all you only need to pay USD2.00/conversion up to USD 1,000,000. More than that you pay lesser.
https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?f=1590&p=fx
My friend told me it's USD100,000 but interactive broker webpage mentioned USD1,000,000. Not sure who's right. Anyway don't have that kind of money. The rates you are getting will be way better that any money changer rate.

It will make sense down the road. Continue reading on.

Keep in mind interactive broker allow you one free withdrawal of currency in whatever currency you want to withdraw a month. More that that you pay.
https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index...8#cash-movement

7. Open CIMB sg account.
Full details here
[url=https://ringgitfreedom.com/banking/opening-cimb-singapore-account-without-visiting-singapore-for-malaysians/]https://ringgitfreedom.com/banking/opening-cimb-singapore-account-without-visiting-singapore-for-malaysians/
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For verification part to activate your CIMB Fastsaver you need to transfer SGD1k. So that means you need SGD4007 in total not SGD3007 as mentioned aboved.

There's two way to pass their eKyc
1. Use your new DBS account and send SGD1000 over via FAST (the original way I used and the way it's intended)
2. Use CIMB MY (yes you need CIMB MY account) and send SGD1.00 into your CIMB SG account.
Once you have SGD1.00 send use fintech like bigpay, TransferWise and Sunway money to transfer the remaining SGD999.00

Once account activated they will tell you via email and send over a bunch of codes for login via snail mail. Be patient. Wait like 2 weeks to 1 month.

Now that you have all up and running, let's get to the fun part. How to get paid in USD and change it to Malaysin currency without losing like 4% eacv transaction and without losing additional money for intermediate bank agent transfer.

Paid in USD -> DBS Multiplier/My account (only pay USD10.00. That's all) -> Now that you have USD in your DBS bank account -> initiate a USD transfer into Interactive broker via DBS remit for free. Make sure to notify interactive broker of incoming USD with the bank account number that match your DBS Bank account without dash every time you want to send USD into interactive broker. Make sure under DBS Account select send USD and receiving side USD. Money takes few hours to enter Interactive broker account. -> once money enter into Interactive broker, convert into SGD using interactive broker. Do not use any banks. -> Initiate a withdrawal to CIMB Sg -> Use CIMB SG to send money back to CIMB MY at money changer rate.

I'm losing like 5% from currency conversion and credit card transaction fees.[/quote]
Paid in USD -> Deposit into DBS Multiplier/My account -> Hold USD at no interest -> 1) Expense (USD) 2) transfer back to Malaysia as shown above.

If you want to hack your USD to get some interest, I recommend researching pseudo bond stocks in US. Here are a few. Google, Amazon, apple, Microsoft and Canadian railway. By diverting USD into those stocks, you get paid to wait until you need to use the USD. Keep in mind this is not guaranteed. Hence you can lose your money.

Use the dbs visa debit card provided to fund your expenses. Remember to pay your tax to Malaysian govt if you don't want any problem

You are welcome.

You can do the above while waiting for 2022 foreign sourced tax to be passed.

[quote=TOS,Nov 9 2021, 11:27 PM]
lol private bank mah

You go there deposit a few k SGD, net interest income so little only. Plus if you are buy-and-hold investors, the bank earns almost nothing. laugh.gif

Edit: Don't know if got other alternatives or not, if you have borderless account before, then technically you have one SGD bank account too. For bank account-like stuff, FSM SG is a brokerage account but can store cash too, but have limited payments and withdrawal options. Digital banks most likely require you to have a work pass/student pass etc or become a resident there to be eligible. Traditional banks options are limited. DBS may require you to have work pass/student pass though, but Ram's earlier reply kind of suggest just visit as a tourist also can open one. Sounds too good to be true for me. OCBC and UOB not heard before, but I recall someone once told everyone here he "got a deal" with UOB so can open SG account there. Then when Ram ask for updates and details, no more news...
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Forget borderless account for now. Unless Malaysian govt decided to relax restrictions, new user ain't going to get access to borderless account.

No need for student or working pass for DBS. Black and white on DBS page need. But if the above steps still hold true as when I opened my account, no need.

Forget UOB/OCBC in sg. Unless you are loaded then yes, they will welcome you. If you are not, they won't bother. Before 1mdb, we Malaysians can walk into any SG banks, open account and no questions asked or rejected. But since 1MDB, we are on restricted list. That is why we can't have nice things. sad.gif

[quote=asimov82,Nov 9 2021, 11:33 PM]
if got few k SGD can open DBS, right?
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See above steps. If it still hold true, then yes. The above steps are what my own steps back in the days like 5-7 years ago.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Nov 10 2021, 04:08 PM
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post Nov 10 2021, 04:11 PM

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puremage111, !@#$%^, asimov82
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post Nov 12 2021, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 12 2021, 02:57 PM)
Some things he wrote up there are wrong,... tho' with the new VTL betw SG and MY,... some things have become right. Anyway,... I think,... CIMB SG may not be a 'safe bank' to put all your money in anymore with the removal of the FSIE next year. JMHO.... dry.gif
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CIMB sg is under MAS jurisdiction and not BNM. So don't know how powerful is BNM is towards CIMB SG.

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Nov 14 2021, 11:11 PM)
always accepted. just that u have to go through maybank my.
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See what's the instructions Maybank sg asked. Keep in mind the sgd500 is locked up. Cannot move anywhere. Account cannot drop below SGD500. Check back with them and see if the minimum lockup is still SGD500 or 1000.

QUOTE(lyyera96 @ Nov 14 2021, 11:18 PM)
So just prepare SGD 500 and submit the form to the branch that stated in the form only??
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Yes. But double confirm with Maybank sg how much is required to open account and how much is the minimum to lock up.
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post Nov 19 2021, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Koranshita @ Nov 19 2021, 12:51 PM)
Didn't they say sg cimb from Malaysia no interest?
I just checked mine. Got interest le
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Cimb fastsaver used to have 1%p.a interest and I think got cut down to 0.3%.

Basically sg banks have no interest except for likes of CIMB fastsaver.

QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Nov 19 2021, 01:50 PM)
We not care about the 1%pa interest (Mostly transfer out to invest & don't put a lot money in bank)

We just care any minimum amount required maintain in account  biggrin.gif
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Yup. I didn't care about interest. What's more important is whether need to lock up the money or not.

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