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pumpman
post May 26 2014, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 26 2014, 03:41 PM)
what's PCMO? either way go read the respect tech specs/data sheets manufacturers provide.
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Passenger car motor oil.. Normally the HDEO (heavy duty diesel engine oil) will have higher TBN and HTHS.

Liqui Moly MoS2 10w-40 mention nothing on this value http://www.liqui-moly.de/liquimoly/mediend...2010W-40_EN.pdf

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post May 26 2014, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 26 2014, 03:51 PM)
for good/reputable API SN/GF5 certified fully synthetics, it will be in the range of 8-13.
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Hope you can enlighten us what are the oils brand and model with this value..

Torco value seems bad? http://www.torcousa.com/technology/TDS_SR-1%20MotorOil.pdf
http://www.torcousa.com/technology/TDS_SR-5R%20Racing.pdf


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post May 26 2014, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 26 2014, 04:18 PM)
not the be all end all though
considering torco's performance/racing oriented products, torco has a ton of friction modifiers to make up for what's low on the TBN.

And BITOG forumers has UOA that reports that their TBN doesn't deteriorate as fast as other EO.
i have also personally used torco on 16k km OCI, which had no performance degradation whatsoever.

my own personal take (again, imho) for petro canada is that they aren't well known in the boutique EO, and they are basically mainstream albeit for canadian petrol stations hence the name petrol canada.
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IMHO TBN is to neutralise the acid from the combustion by-product, not relevant to friction modifier...forgive me if i am wrong

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post May 26 2014, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 26 2014, 04:36 PM)
yeap you are correct: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Base_Number

the idea is having better friction modifiers (or whatever proprietary additives) an EO has it's effect on more efficient engine operation would reduce the consumption of TBN.

else there would be no explanation to the UOA that BITOG members are submitting on various performance/racing based engine oils such as the 300v that motul has which only has barely 8 TBN http://www.motul.com/system/product_descri....pdf?1329125318 and still able to survive 10-20k km easily despite being a full fledged non api certified racing engine oil.
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Sorry i cannot agree with TBN 8-13 as API guidelines is between 6.1 to 8.3 http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/lucassynth.htm. I personally agree Racing oil is not govern by API


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post May 26 2014, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 26 2014, 05:01 PM)
that is my personal take for extended OCI (which i am practicing now) so the more the better no? when everyone is proud to "exceed API specifications" while still being API SN/GF 5 certified. it kinda makes one wonder if API's standards are strict enough laugh.gif

we'll know by 2015/2016 with the new SO (or SP, considering SO sounds weird laugh.gif specifications, along with honda pushing for official SAW 0w16 viscosity) specs

anyways forgotten to post this:
https://plus.google.com/+JasonLimQuazacolt/posts/DzSwSWnqNaL package from Blackstone laboratories arrived... just waiting for 3k km more till my OCI so i can collect used oil samples to send over biggrin.gif
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At least http://www.pqiamerica.com/ put a random check on the oil quality in the market and ACEA do not.. smile.gif

We have oil lab here in Malaysia too..

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post Jun 5 2014, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 4 2014, 11:39 PM)
watch the youtube/links i've linked previously la sweat.gif
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anything great about this base oil?

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post Jun 7 2014, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 5 2014, 05:16 PM)
it's something new, using natural gas to form the base oil. so i'm particularly intrigued by it biggrin.gif
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GTL = gas to liquid .. And what is the advantage?

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post Jun 10 2014, 01:47 AM

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GTL is group III, http://www.petrotechsociety.org/Presentati...0Srivastava.pdf

In BITog, pennzoil themself claim is group III http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/pennzoil-q-a/

Please google Google API 1509 appendix E

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post Jun 10 2014, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(enhanced vehicle @ Jun 10 2014, 07:56 PM)
They are licensed to manufacture and market lubricant using brand name Pennzoil.
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And also Repsol

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