mike, thats why u dont see the demand for the BBC unlike the BC, which its value comes into play in the form of constant aperture, weight and IQ

This post has been edited by lwliam: May 31 2010, 11:20 AM

BBC = big beercan
BC = beercan

no i was comparing BC and BCC on why they one still retains value better than the other... its OT from the 75-300 a bit

OT= off-topic

This post has been edited by lwliam: May 31 2010, 11:41 AM

clive, olympus is using the four thirds sensor, which is a 2x crop sensor. so effectively, the 50mm on apsc sensor you're looking for, would be about approx. 38mm on four third lenses.

Mo0, u tried on E3 of coz stim la.... hahhahaa... *zip zip zip*... damn fast one!

what can they produce?

mike, correct

put it this way, all those numbers (eg.50mm) written on the lens, those are referring to the angle of view on a full frame.

then whichever sensor size you put that lens on (assuming all lenses can be attached to any body at all), multiply that mm with the crop factor (eg. 1.5x, 2.0x etc.) then you will get the equivalent view angle which you can get on a full frame sensor/film.

so in your example above, putting a lens which is written 28-70mm on the respective cameras, u will get equivalent of:

A900 = 28-70mm
A700 = 42-105mm (equivalent of a FF)
four thirds = 56-140mm (equivalent of a FF)

This post has been edited by lwliam: May 31 2010, 07:25 PM

yes, meaning if u use 50mm on A700, you will actually need to use a 75mm on an A900 to get the same angle of view. (note: NOT picture outcome)

and due to the change in focal length, the DoF will be different. this is one of the difference between APS-C and FF, which will cause a shallower DoF.

This post has been edited by lwliam: May 31 2010, 07:31 PM

that is a very common misconception. due to the fact that most of us use APS-C sensors, we're used to saying which focal length corresponds to which field of view. this is because many ppl will disregard the word "35mm equivalent". those numbers are based on fullframe field of views, the 35mm standard reference is because the original fullframe is film, which is 35mm wide (36mm x 24mm to be precise).

what we are seeing in APS-C are actually a cropped out portion from the full frame. and hence the image that you shared earlier on.

This post has been edited by lwliam: May 31 2010, 07:49 PM

u took the long way around it, but techically, yes, its correct.. LOLOL

here, hope this will make you understand more..

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Added on May 31, 2010, 10:37 pmor this one, its less technical. but the narrator is more 'unprofessional'

This post has been edited by lwliam: May 31 2010, 10:43 PM

you got it correct the 1st round edi ma, why u add the asterisk pulak? now its wrong d... hahahha... it is Olympus' flagship model, but the E3 is not a full frame camera.

lol mike, if you are not familiar with that conversion, then i make it the other way around...

u put a 90mm lens on A900 (imagine the SP90).. then to get the (keyword:)same field of view as that, you would need a 60mm on an A700... another words, you will see MORE of the view on a fullframe as compared to an APS-C.



red is FF, green is APS-C

i have no idea how to make this any more simpler.

This post has been edited by lwliam: May 31 2010, 11:36 PM

oh, i love the car! hard to find those cars nowadays... but better pray hard that it doesnt rain.. if not hancur la

This post has been edited by lwliam: May 31 2010, 11:51 PM

but i komen also wadddd

okla, i give proper one la...

your intention of the shots are more on detail shots.. hence the tight angles, and they are pretty well executed. just that for the bride's gown and heels are a bit off target, there is no detail shown in either of the pic, be it the fancy arrangements on the gown flowers, or the laces on the heels.

the shot on the car is good, i like that one.

no.3, i love the side lights on the bride, but it could use some fill light from the front, a small amount will do, nothing which cant be done with some proper photoshopping.

no.6, skin tone's a bit dull, can be PP-ed as well.

again, i love the reflection of the groom on the side mirror. but could be better if its shot a bit wider to show a bit of the surroundings, it would show a nice out of focused background either.

#8, could use a better angle and add a bit more of the background by shooting a bit more wider

#9 is ok...

hahhaha, yes NOW it is correct. someone correct me, but as far as i know, all lens focal length are determined by 35mm standards, no such thing as olympus' own focal length standard etc etc

Clive, some teaser shots for you

hazril, nope...

hahha, i have a camel vest, when i don that, it automatically tells ppl you mean business and ppl WILL give way to you... BUTTTT... looks damn ah beng laaa... T.T so i havent worn that for weddings for a long time d...