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post Jun 5 2010, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Jun 4 2010, 06:57 AM)
no need to maki2 bah..
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expression of words freddy...bukan maki... tongue.gif

QUOTE(mastering89 @ Jun 4 2010, 07:48 AM)
at digital mall the accesories like filters, battery, bags etc are dem expensive.
try go and look how much they put the price for filter before they potong 80% and still get profit  sweat.gif
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well,if i tell u the cost price for those uv filters,bags and screen protector sure u'll terkejut....

QUOTE(Gouki @ Jun 4 2010, 10:07 AM)
hey bro, i using the same sony chargers + 4 batts like yours~ i bought mine at 100bux from sony style since day one i got my F42am~ been a year and still running strong~ where to find quick smart charger + 4pcs 2500mah AA batts with refresh function? best deal imho~ tongue.gif
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thats why la bro...the charger caught my attention the most...tested it out today and it performs quite well...

QUOTE(ngcmn @ Jun 4 2010, 02:37 PM)
those are new ones leh... i think max also 300+ shoot for my uniross 2700 which is just fully charged... power i remember i set to 1/4 tat day during dcim...
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sure ka bro...???even my 4 year old panasonic batteries can still snap around 400ish pics....2100mah somemore....

QUOTE(ahpingko @ Jun 4 2010, 10:20 PM)
just bought a cheap UV filter for my lens... tongue.gif  rm 45 for KEEP..xD
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KEEP...???thats the uv filter i used to sell in my previous workplace....cost price...???how bout around kfc dinner set...??? smile.gif
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post Jun 5 2010, 12:55 AM

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back from NEX Party, all I can said the NEX it was impressive than what I expected in terms of performance and compactness.

To compare with GF1, NEX were just 50% lighter and 30~40% slimmer than the GF1 in terms of body sizes and weight just the kit lens add up some weight to make it heavy but with pancake, this camera almost seems pocketable.

Noise performance as expected, good high ISO range but average low ISO range as A450/500/550

Video is lovely! Although not much thing able to custom but at least they provide usable AF focus and MF Focus which is very impressive!!

Video format in Full HD is good hence it was 50/60 frames which was x2 much smoother than the Canon 20~30 frames, quality wise against the 500D and 550D it's better than that but still not able to match the Canon 5D Mark2 full HD quality.
Likewise, I wasn't get sure but 1080p and 1080i has different performance format so I cant judge so much on it

Only bad point was too minimalistic until certain function you might feel frustration for quick accessing especially metering zone. Although I understands the squeeze sizes body might not able to fit so much button but compare with others compact like Lumix LX3, the access for NEX is somehow too much. If it add a 2 extra important button then I will really says that it will improve the user ability.

Lens unlike those previous kit lens, it was silent and smooth

Control pad is sweet hence I love the Canon scrolling, NEX also includes it and provide up/down/left/right key together on the scroll pad.

Overall it NEX is the only one which can fit in your pocket (when pancake is mounted) with truth "APS-C" sized

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post Jun 5 2010, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(wingster @ Jun 5 2010, 12:55 AM)
back from NEX Party, all I can said the NEX it was impressive than what I expected in terms of performance and compactness.

To compare with GF1, NEX were just 50% lighter and 30~40% slimmer than the GF1 in terms of body sizes and weight just the kit lens add up some weight to make it heavy but with pancake, this camera almost seems pocketable.

Noise performance as expected, good high ISO range but average low ISO range as A450/500/550

Video is lovely! Although not much thing able to custom but at least they provide usable AF focus and MF Focus which is very impressive!!

Video format in Full HD is good hence it was 50/60 frames which was x2 much smoother than the Canon 20~30 frames, quality wise against the 500D and 550D it's better than that but still not able to match the Canon 5D Mark2 full HD quality.
Likewise, I wasn't get sure but 1080p and 1080i has different performance format so I cant judge so much on it

Only bad point was too minimalistic until certain function you might feel frustration for quick accessing especially metering zone. Although I under the squeeze sizes body might not able to fit so much button but compare with others compact like Lumix LX3, the access is somehow too much. If it add a 2 extra important button then I will really says that it will improve the user ability.

Lens unlike those previous kit lens, it was silent and smooth

Control pad is sweet hence I love the Canon scrolling, NEX also includes it and provide up/down/left/right key together on the scroll pad.

Overall it NEX is the only one which can fit in your pocket (when pancake is mounted) with truth "APS-C" sized
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Great description, thanks !

May I know, what do you think about the noise level at ISO1600 for this camera ? Usable ?
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post Jun 5 2010, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(wingster @ Jun 5 2010, 12:55 AM)
back from NEX Party, all I can said the NEX it was impressive than what I expected in terms of performance and compactness.

To compare with GF1, NEX were just 50% lighter and 30~40% slimmer than the GF1 in terms of body sizes and weight just the kit lens add up some weight to make it heavy but with pancake, this camera almost seems pocketable.

Noise performance as expected, good high ISO range but average low ISO range as A450/500/550

Video is lovely! Although not much thing able to custom but at least they provide usable AF focus and MF Focus which is very impressive!!

Video format in Full HD is good hence it was 50/60 frames which was x2 much smoother than the Canon 20~30 frames, quality wise against the 500D and 550D it's better than that but still not able to match the Canon 5D Mark2 full HD quality.
Likewise, I wasn't get sure but 1080p and 1080i has different performance format so I cant judge so much on it

Only bad point was too minimalistic until certain function you might feel frustration for quick accessing especially metering zone. Although I understands the squeeze sizes body might not able to fit so much button but compare with others compact like Lumix LX3, the access is somehow too much. If it add a 2 extra important button then I will really says that it will improve the user ability.

Lens unlike those previous kit lens, it was silent and smooth

Control pad is sweet hence I love the Canon scrolling, NEX also includes it and provide up/down/left/right key together on the scroll pad.

Overall it NEX is the only one which can fit in your pocket (when pancake is mounted) with truth "APS-C" sized
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LOL. U want 60fps for what ar? Broadcast standard is 24fps which is what all video pros n production houses want. Even Japanese standard of 30fps oso they dowan.

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my 1st wedding job cum bidan terjun photographer...do c&c...no pp done as still noob on pp....

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post Jun 5 2010, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(hazril @ Jun 5 2010, 01:23 AM)
my 1st wedding job cum bidan terjun photographer...do c&c...no pp done as still noob on pp....

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nice one bro, patutla ada org suruh ambik gambar NAKED tongue.gif gurau2 hehe
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post Jun 5 2010, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(ianho @ Jun 5 2010, 01:21 AM)
LOL. U want 60fps for what ar?  Broadcast standard is 24fps which is what all  video pros n production houses want. Even Japanese standard of 30fps oso they dowan.
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Bro you need to know that 1080i and 1080p was different ... I somehow heard that 2 frame of 1080i = 1 frame of 1080p but after some research I get this which talks the 1080i format and 1080p format differences

"The reason broadcasters use 1080i instead of 1080p for transmission is the same as the reason to use interlaced scan instead of Progressive scan, bandwidth is used more efficiently. That means more channels and/or better video and sound for you!

1080i frames (a frame lasts for 1/60th of a sec.) have 1920x1080 lines of detail (each 1/30th field has 540 lines of detail and each field contains different lines) and so does a 1080p signal! The only difference is that a 1080i frame shows half the detail of a 1080p frame during any part of a frame. Since that is true if the original source was 1080p then that original presentation of 1080p@24fps can be reconstructed by a 1080p set, receiving a 1080i@30fps signal, with good video processing. This process is normally called De-Interlacing. "

and yeah I get one point that 1080i has lesser detail on 1080p

Likewise extra frames means extra motion for video editors to capture and reedit it the format.

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wingster : nice description. probably might consider NEX in future list nod.gif

gizmo_pony : here have some samples : link

hazril : greeny, nature , congrats thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(wingster @ Jun 5 2010, 01:30 AM)
Bro you need to know that 1080i and 1080p was different ... I somehow heard that 2 frame of 1080i = 1 frame of 1080p but after some research I get this

"The reason broadcasters use 1080i instead of 1080p for transmission is the same as the reason to use interlaced scan instead of Progressive scan, bandwidth is used more efficiently. That means more channels and/or better video and sound for you!

1080i frames (a frame lasts for 1/60th of a sec.) have 1920x1080 lines of detail (each 1/30th field has 540 lines of detail and each field contains different lines) and so does a 1080p signal! The only difference is that a 1080i frame shows half the detail of a 1080p frame during any part of a frame. Since that is true if the original source was 1080p then that original presentation of 1080p@24fps can be reconstructed by a 1080p set, receiving a 1080i@30fps signal, with good video processing. This process is normally called De-Interlacing. "

Likewise extra frames means extra motion for video editors to capture and reedit it the format.
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Keep on researching n reading. U will soon find out why the pros want 24fps. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Jun 5 2010, 01:33 AM)
wingster : nice description. probably might consider NEX in future list  nod.gif

gizmo_pony : here have some samples : link

hazril : greeny, nature , congrats  thumbup.gif
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thanks hairie, nice sample showing the noise level at each ISO setting rclxms.gif

in my opinion at ISO1600 the noise is controlled well enough, at least to my eyes blush.gif
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uncle ian, why ah the 24fps thing? i wan to know..
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QUOTE(gizmo_pony @ Jun 5 2010, 01:38 AM)
thanks hairie, nice sample showing the noise level at each ISO setting  rclxms.gif

in my opinion at ISO1600 the noise is controlled well enough, at least to my eyes  blush.gif
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this ISO 12,800 looks better than 3200 on my a350 sweat.gif
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hey quick q' on external flash:
1) a850 and a900 no have pop up flash, so can they do wireless flash without any flash (f20/f58) mounted on them as trigger??
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Jun 5 2010, 01:43 AM)
hey quick q' on external flash:
1) a850 and a900 no have pop up flash, so can they do wireless flash without any flash (f20/f58) mounted on them as trigger??
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nope, don't think so


Added on June 5, 2010, 1:47 amkeep waiting for someone who went back from the NEX announcement to post something :-p

maybe good news with the pricing ? drool.gif

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post Jun 5 2010, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jun 5 2010, 01:40 AM)
uncle ian, why ah the 24fps thing? i wan to know..
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Well I get his point right now just curious Ianho, are you profession on video making?

Because of the complicated process + only monitor or ps3 or x-box that has 120hz (60 frames) may able to read it the potential of 60 frame

hence means that 1080i/60 only put it's potential on Sony 120hz Television, although I'm also learning video editing but now I get understand the standard 24 frames features


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QUOTE(wingster @ Jun 5 2010, 01:52 AM)
Well I get his point right now just curious Ianho, are you profession on video making?

Because of the complicated process + only monitor or ps3 or x-box that has 120hz (60 frames) may able to read it the potential of 60 frame

hence means that 1080i/60 only put it's potential on Sony 120hz Television, although I'm also learning video editing but now I get understand the standard 24 frames features
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Hehe. I'm just a fisherman.
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not to be fussy on language or anything, but wingster, you are using the word 'hence' in a wrong way many times over.
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jun 5 2010, 01:56 AM)
not to be fussy on language or anything, but wingster, you are using the word 'hence' in a wrong way many times over.
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xD I have bad grammar and wrong English input ... will try to corrected it
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Wingster trying to "kau lui" at the NEX launch just now. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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Edit: forgot to mention he won 1st prize for making a shutter sound like this- "Jeng Jeng Jenggggggggggggggggggg" . laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(ianho @ Jun 5 2010, 02:03 AM)
Wingster trying to "kau lui" at the NEX launch just now.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

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LOL
some more her pose just.... xD

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