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TSBeastboy
post May 25 2010, 06:15 PM, updated 16y ago

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Some local studies have been done on plastic bag usage (The Sun 22 April 2010) in the environmental context but I've been unable to find a local study on whether our heavy reliance on plastic utensils - bowls, plates, chopsticks - has a correlation to ailments like cancer in Malaysians. Has anyone come across such a study?

The concern is bisphenol A (BPA) and other compounds that are released from plastics when they come into contact with hot water. A related question is whether there are manufacturing standards within the local plastics industry to reduce this danger.

My own father is a cancer patient and it was during his treatment that I notice how cancer sufferers tend to be Chinese. I wonder if its just a coincidence that this segment also has a lifestyle of eating out... at hawkers who routinely serve you boiling hot soup in cheap plastic bowls, give you plastic chopsticks & plastic soup spoons. Has anyone seen a proven link between a habitual use of these implements and cancer?

p/s I know we humans will die of anything we eat if we eat enough of it but I'd like to confine the discussion to the effect of plastics on our mortality.

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post May 25 2010, 07:27 PM

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Awareness of this isn't high enough i guess.

There are VERY clear standards of plastic. If you turn your water bottle upside down, you can clearly see the grade imprinted onto it. People just tend to ignore it.

That's why, bring your own metal container or something. Just tell the hawker to place it in there.
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post May 26 2010, 12:46 AM

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Heard this quite long ago
When the plastic meet with some hot thing, especially hot food and water, the chemical contains in the plastic will dissolve into the food and if we eat those often
It will cause cancer one day later (which i have no knowledge when is later)
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post May 26 2010, 01:52 AM


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QUOTE(Beastboy @ May 25 2010, 06:15 PM)
Some local studies have been done on plastic bag usage (The Sun 22 April 2010) in the environmental context but I've been unable to find a local study on whether our heavy reliance on plastic utensils - bowls, plates, chopsticks - has a correlation to ailments like cancer in Malaysians. Has anyone come across such a study?

The concern is bisphenol A (BPA) and other compounds that are released from plastics when they come into contact with hot water. A related question is whether there are manufacturing standards within the local plastics industry to reduce this danger.

My own father is a cancer patient and it was during his treatment that I notice how cancer sufferers tend to be Chinese. I wonder if its just a coincidence that this segment also has a lifestyle of eating out... at hawkers who routinely serve you boiling hot soup in cheap plastic bowls, give you plastic chopsticks & plastic soup spoons. Has anyone seen a proven link between a habitual use of these implements and cancer?

p/s I know we humans will die of anything we eat if we eat enough of it but I'd like to confine the discussion to the effect of plastics on our mortality.
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a bit skeptical about this.......
perhaps what type of cancer in the chinese is most common at the hospital and a matching with patient's case history would give you the answer you seek....
TSBeastboy
post May 26 2010, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(slimey @ May 26 2010, 01:52 AM)
a bit skeptical about this.......
perhaps what type of cancer in the chinese is most common at the hospital and a matching with patient's case history would give you the answer you seek....
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That is why I'm looking for trend data rather than individual case.

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post May 26 2010, 12:55 PM

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It's clearly stated that chemical contents of plastic WILL leech into our food in one issue of The Times. Just that many of us do not have the awareness due to failure of our education/gov
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post May 26 2010, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ May 26 2010, 12:55 PM)
Just that many of us do not have the awareness due to failure of our education/gov
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This issue is an old one & actually well publicized. I think all parties have a hand in this: the consumer for not taking the issue seriously, the hawkers for using cheap plastic utensils to cut cost, and the authorities for not enforcing plastics by-laws if they do actually have such laws.

The effect of BPA was challenged by some studies before (can't recall them off the top of my head) but the data wasn't local and was likely collected from a population that didn't use plastics as much as we Malaysians. I am interested in local stats if any.

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post May 27 2010, 12:15 AM

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found a website which outlines the health problems caused by different types of plastic
http://www.ecologycenter.org/factsheets/pl...ltheffects.html
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post May 27 2010, 11:09 AM

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Thanks for the reference dude. Now if only I could draw the dotted line between the cancer patients in KL and their eating habits at the hawkers....


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post May 28 2010, 05:28 PM

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seems like BPA has a lot of side effects according to wikipedia shakehead.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A
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post Jun 22 2010, 05:03 AM

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get info from this organisation.

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an important question to ask would be whether melamine is one of the plastics that has BPA in it or not.
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post Jul 2 2010, 12:23 AM

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Mice moms, sons end up diabetic after short BPA exposure during pregnancy.
http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs...uring-pregnancy

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this one is intriguing , listen up guys please stay away from the receipts to maintain your fertility biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by ComposMentis: Jul 2 2010, 12:33 AM

 

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