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TSyltan
post May 25 2010, 05:56 PM, updated 16y ago

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Hi guys,

I am looking for an AVR with the following features (all 3 is a must) for my HT. Please recommend the brands and models that are available in Malaysia. Entry models will do.

1) HDMI
2) Capable of decoding HD audio (DTS HD, DTS MA & etc...)
3) 7.1 pre out (connecting to my mulit channel power amp)

Thanks in advance...


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post May 25 2010, 06:02 PM

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Most mid-level AVR will have those

Marantz SR6004, Yamaha 1065/2065, Z-7, Denon 3310/4310, Pioneer LX52/72/82
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QUOTE(mpyw @ May 25 2010, 06:02 PM)
Most mid-level AVR will have those

Marantz SR6004, Yamaha 1065/2065, Z-7, Denon 3310/4310, Pioneer LX52/72/82
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Despite the price, this is wat i was looking for my home. Need $ though..Thanks mpyw.

Check the url : Pioneer LX82
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post May 25 2010, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ May 25 2010, 06:02 PM)
Most mid-level AVR will have those

Marantz SR6004, Yamaha 1065/2065, Z-7, Denon 3310/4310, Pioneer LX52/72/82
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Many thanks for the sharing the info. After checking the models, I guess most of it cost more than RM 3500.
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post May 25 2010, 08:19 PM

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sr6003 also have rite?
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post May 25 2010, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(maskedchan @ May 25 2010, 09:19 PM)
sr6003 also have rite?
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Yeap... And if manage to find...can bargain like mad to get below 3k as now SR6004 already out....
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post May 25 2010, 09:05 PM

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if want cheap, check with KEC, Sinkapoh.

you may get made in Bolehland AVR but cheaper than getting from Bolehland. smile.gif
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post May 26 2010, 03:23 AM

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QUOTE(yltan @ May 25 2010, 06:47 PM)
Many thanks for the sharing the info. After checking the models, I guess most of it cost more than RM 3500.
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for pioneer

VSX LX-52 - RM 5K++ or RM6k (not sure)
SC LX-72 - RM7K (confirm)
SC LX-82 - RM8K (confirm)

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post May 26 2010, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(matyeo @ May 26 2010, 03:23 AM)
for pioneer

VSX LX-52 - RM 5K++ or RM6k (not sure)
SC LX-72 - RM7K (confirm)
SC LX-82 - RM8K (confirm)

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For Pioneer price listed above, if I have a budget of rm6k, how good is LX-52 fare against other brands? Any comment?
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post May 26 2010, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ May 26 2010, 09:06 AM)
For Pioneer price listed above, if I have a budget of rm6k, how good is LX-52 fare against other brands? Any comment?
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Pioneer MCACC is good enough for room EQ calibration.... rclxms.gif

my current pioneer was 5th AVR and for me pioneer the best la....just my opinion.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 26 2010, 10:08 AM

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I saw there's a SR6003 at Desa LYP last Sunday....maybe can go there to bargain....
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post May 26 2010, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(matyeo @ May 26 2010, 03:23 AM)
for pioneer

VSX LX-52 - RM 5K++ or RM6k (not sure)
SC LX-72 - RM7K (confirm)
SC LX-82 - RM8K (confirm)

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Walau..

ELITE indeed.. if spend so much on an avr which has a very short shelf life [ I mean if hdmi 1.4 or newer tech cums along..] , I d prefer spendin it on better spkrs..

I d get a midrange avr - pair it wif decent pwr amps [pwr amps never go out of style].. once time to upgr .. at least its a 2/3k loss compared to wat is listed abv..

But then again, I m a peasant..
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post May 26 2010, 02:04 PM

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also, if you get the Pioneer LX models with ICEpower, connecting the pre-outs would defeat the purpose of having the digital amp inside the Pioneer
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post May 26 2010, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(yltan @ May 25 2010, 06:47 PM)
Many thanks for the sharing the info. After checking the models, I guess most of it cost more than RM 3500.
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I believe the Yammy rx-v765 has 7 channel pre outs and would be below RM3K. If u r up north, u could check with Hi-Fi choice, they might have one or 2 units left.

Edit : Corrected typo on price.

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post May 26 2010, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ May 26 2010, 01:26 PM)
Walau..

ELITE indeed.. if spend so much on an avr which has a very short shelf life [ I mean if hdmi 1.4 or newer tech cums along..] , I d prefer spendin it on better spkrs..

I d get a midrange avr - pair it wif decent pwr amps [pwr amps never go out of style].. once time to upgr .. at least its a 2/3k loss compared to wat is listed abv..

But then again, I m a peasant..
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Kinda true spend so much on AVR since the newer HDMI 1.4 is coming soon. As for my case, I needed the pre out just to utilize my power amp. But again, kinda waste if spend so much on AVR and don't use the internal power amplifier.

Unless someone is kind enough to make a test on Dune or Oppo 80 (using the pre out) connected to power amplifier to test the True HD or DTS HD. If the results is satisfactory, it will help the environment with less 1 unit of AVR at least...
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QUOTE(yltan @ May 26 2010, 06:56 PM)
Kinda true spend so much on AVR since the newer HDMI 1.4 is coming soon. As for my case, I needed the pre out just to utilize my power amp. But again, kinda waste if spend so much on AVR and don't use the internal power amplifier.

Unless someone is kind enough to make a test on Dune or Oppo 80 (using the pre out) connected to power amplifier to test the True HD or DTS HD. If the results is satisfactory, it will help the environment with less 1 unit of AVR at least...
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You cannot send a 7.1 out from a BD or DVD player direct to a power amp. The output from the player is a not a pre-out per se, it is decoded audio out. It needs to go to either an AVR with the correct inputs or a multi channel pre-amp. The signal is unfiltered and there is not gain control.
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post May 26 2010, 09:02 PM

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if the player has onboard decoders the 7.1 analog outputs can be connected to a multichannel power amp (or multiple stereo amps)

however unless the player also has a volume control, there is no way to control the volume on the power amp.

Also, what would you do with other equipment - astro decoder, xbox, media player etc etc

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post May 26 2010, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ May 26 2010, 09:02 PM)
if the player has onboard decoders the 7.1 analog outputs can be connected to a multichannel power amp (or multiple stereo amps)

however unless the player also has a volume control, there is no way to control the volume on the power amp.

Also, what would you do with other equipment - astro decoder, xbox, media player etc etc
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The Oppo has a digital volume control. However, it is as I said, its digital and when reduced passed 80 (it reduces in 10s from 100) it starts to compress the range in the digital range. It is not recommended to be used as its not a true gain control.

I am not sure of the Dune.

The Oppo does have a proper xover setting page as well as delay. The better option would be to send it to an amplifier with a proper gain control (preferably a master gain control).
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post May 26 2010, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ May 26 2010, 10:08 AM)
I saw there's a SR6003 at Desa LYP last Sunday....maybe can go there to bargain....
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post May 26 2010, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ May 26 2010, 09:02 PM)
if the player has onboard decoders the 7.1 analog outputs can be connected to a multichannel power amp (or multiple stereo amps)

however unless the player also has a volume control, there is no way to control the volume on the power amp.

Also, what would you do with other equipment - astro decoder, xbox, media player etc etc
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I know Dune and Oppo both have onboard decoder and both can control the volume from the remote control. Oppo also have the speakers calibration(distance and delay) but I am not sure on Dune.



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