If not mistaken, I got tempered laminate 12mm. So best of both word. If only I had funds to have an extra lamination tint like what they do for cars which not only has impact resistant but also UV and TSER protection.

Remember, more glass means more heat into the house.



This post has been edited by dchk: May 2 2012, 02:07 PM

I think that is called strengthened laminated glass, is much better than laminated, but not as strong as tempered. Not many people supply here. Can try ajiya our some famous manufacture.

nice bro! kaya la you

if u guys really wants maximum strength, just go for the hardened tempered glass laminated with 12mil (0.3mm) film (1mil = 0.0254mm)...not sure whether malaysia is producing 12mil above safety film.

but i think 12mil safety film is too much as when 12mil of safety film were applied on a 3mm glass, its tensile strength is 17kg/cm....imagine u applied it on 2 layers of 5mm tempered glass, how strong it can be?

a normal 12mm tempered glass can withstand a 300kg weight (i think more than tat)...u do the math....

Can the wall take the load or not?

300kg is the tensile strength of the glass....not its weight.. 1 piece of 12mm 4' x 8' glass weights about 80-90kg only.

how much the price for installation? they help to remove the existing window casement as well?

As mention earlier RM3500.

how do u design your front door grill then, without making it look like a jail type design? i also intend to open the glass door most of the time for my new house.

yeap, agree with you. grille can only slow down the process a little bit only, and they can still enter your house (assuming you are not in the house). but if you are inside the house, at least it gives you some sense of security to open your glass door or something and those burglars cant just charge inside without breaking the grille first.

so is it overall, using grill proven to be the best?

meaning if i want glass with limited budget, i'll go for:
normal 5mm glass with 5mm laminated?
or direct buy 5mm laminated?
How much would 5mm laminated cost?
I don't want grilles

5mm, laminated is very weak. Is still better get tempered with minimal 8mm, or 10mm laminated. Laminated is very easy to be break especially if is flat without curve like car windscreen. Use tempered + add on tint is much better.

Is your house landed?

You need to think of other area too when your house without grills, you going to open the wooden door and windows open without grills or gate when you at home? Our watching TV time? Not worry suddenly people jump in without you notice?

My neighbor don't windows grills and small gate after the wooded door, she don't open up the windows and wooden door even at home, is ok she always switch on AC, so no big deal for her.

I was advised to use combination of laminted glass on fixed panel and secure screen for movable panel. What do you all think...

i was advised by my friend to use safety and security film. the product call ArmorShield. This is an alternative for iron grill bar and somemore can reject solar heat. The cost for it is around RM16 to 18psf

What bout normal glass with security film?
Makes any difference with tempered laminated?
Maybe will do such pane if it's mean for brightness purposes in laundry areas, stairs.

Sorry for resurrectng this thread but considering the recent influx of crime in the news, I'm more concerned about security more than ever.

To those who have installed their respective glass or grilles when this thread was still active, any news you can share on performance? Insulation, noise, maintenance, security, etc?

This post has been edited by OneMoreDay: Aug 18 2013, 01:30 AM

Anyone?

Both tempered and laminated glasses are considered toughened glasses. The key difference to consider is the failure mode: when tempered glass shatters, it breaks into many tiny pieces so that there are no dangerous shards. Whereas for laminated glass, the shattered pieces would stick to the laminate and not fall. Laminated glass would be preferable if there is a potential of falling glass in the event of a shatter, e.g. a glass roof or skylight. Other than that, I think both offer similar break-in protection.

In my home, all the windows and skylights use laminated glass. It's quite tough. (A full grown man can easily stand on it without breaking). I distrust grills because they are ugly, give a false sense of security and represent a fire escape hazard: it's actually very easy to defeat a grill if you know the weak spots (hinges/joints).

One other thing I noticed about laminated glasses: they attenuate cellphone signals significantly. So if I close all the windows, I can't make a call on my cell phone ^^'. Not sure about tempered glasses though..

Thanks for the info. I'm planning skylights as well so this was mighty useful.