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bumblebeezz85
post Feb 20 2011, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(aliciaw @ Jan 18 2011, 11:02 PM)
Actually, I want a PhD because

a) I want to end up doing both pure and applied research.
b) I want to take my findings and build something practical from it that will affect my target population.
c) i want to come back and slap the gahmen in their face for being so negligent about my target population.

and ultimately, i want my target population to gain from that, and carry these benefits throughout their lives.

but mostly, i dont mind research.
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Then I dont want a PhD. I want to be your "target population".
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post Feb 20 2011, 09:56 PM

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Back in 2002 I pursued PhD to (a) get out of my old job, also a chance to (b) get out of Malaysia and basically to jump start a © new career in academia. I achieved (a) and (b) but not ©! I did finally get a PhD at Cardiff University but my interest in academia waned. By then I got my PR, a reasonably decent job, my kids are in college and I am 'tired' and 'middle-aged'! I'm just happy and contented and the challenge (to better myself career-wise) don't excite me anymore. Good luck to anyone wanting a PhD, but for goodness sake start earlier, perhaps in your late 20's or early 30's. A PhD takes at least 3 years, often drags on to 4 or longer. Ask yourself if you have the stamina and tenacity to sustain the long and often lonely struggle! Lol. Don't forget the impact on your finances as well. I was pretty lucky, I guess, being able to get a job less than a month settling in Cardiff.
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Feb 20 2011, 09:56 PM)
Back in 2002 I pursued PhD to (a) get out of my old job, also a chance to (b) get out of Malaysia and basically to jump start a © new career in academia. I achieved (a) and (b) but not ©! I did finally get a PhD at Cardiff University but my interest in academia waned. By then I got my PR, a reasonably decent job, my kids are in college and I am 'tired' and 'middle-aged'! I'm just happy and contented and the challenge (to better myself career-wise) don't excite me anymore. Good luck to anyone wanting a PhD, but for goodness sake start earlier, perhaps in your late 20's or early 30's. A PhD takes at least 3 years, often drags on to 4 or longer. Ask yourself if you have the stamina and tenacity to sustain the long and often lonely struggle! Lol. Don't forget the impact on your finances as well. I was pretty lucky, I guess, being able to get a job less than a month settling in Cardiff.
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the journey of phd often about endurance. how's phd journey influence your way of life now?
i dont mind physical abuse,the mental abuse is a whole different level.

have to submit paper before 12 today...and i dont care....

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post Feb 26 2011, 12:24 PM

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Reasons for me to get a PhD.

1. My own interest in research in engineering. I want to make a different. Thousands of engineer graduating each year everywhere. If I am doing the same thing as they are, who the hell am I ?

2. I got some interest of career in academia.

3. Family pressure. It is not that my parents force me to go for PhD. It is just that all all my siblings are professional, barrister, medical doctor and lecturer.

Just started my part time Phd study in UNMC. It is tough, but I like.
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post Mar 7 2011, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(khinfai @ Feb 26 2011, 12:24 PM)
Reasons for me to get a PhD.

1. My own interest in research in engineering. I want to make a different. Thousands of engineer graduating each year everywhere. If I am doing the same thing as they are, who the hell am I ?

2. I got some interest of career in academia.

3. Family pressure. It is not that my parents force me to go for PhD. It is just that all all my siblings are professional, barrister, medical doctor and lecturer.

Just started my part time Phd study in UNMC. It is tough, but I like.
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Hey Khinfai,

Where is UNMC? U of Nottingham Malaysia is it?
And what major you are in?

I'm interested in doing PhD too after completing my MBA, but seems expensive. I'll see how it goes.
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post Mar 8 2011, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(HappyA_Q @ Mar 7 2011, 04:48 PM)
Hey Khinfai,

Where is UNMC? U of Nottingham Malaysia is it?
And what major you are in?

I'm interested in doing PhD too after completing my MBA, but seems expensive. I'll see how it goes.
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Yup, University of Nottingham Malaysia Campus. I am majoring in Mechanical Engineering. My PhD research is in more in advanced material, quantum electronics, MEMS/NEMS etc. Around these areas cause i am still very new to this study.

The fees is high, as an alumnus, I only get 10% discount from RM 31,000 per annum. Then I am doing part time study, another 50% done, so roughly is around Rm14,000.00 but it will last around 4 to 6 years.
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post Mar 9 2011, 03:14 PM

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I do agree those that aim for PhD is not for money. Those that are aiming for high salary and great benefits should be taking MBA.

I'm currently completing my master soon and plan to take PhD in the future. Anyone has recommendation on which uni is good biomedical science?

Any scholarship can be applied?
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post Mar 10 2011, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(tthyoo @ Mar 9 2011, 03:14 PM)
I do agree those that aim for PhD is not for money. Those that are aiming for high salary and great benefits should be taking MBA.

I'm currently completing my master soon and plan to take PhD in the future. Anyone has recommendation on which uni is good biomedical science?

Any scholarship can be applied?
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If you are planning to do phd in one of the research university in Malaysia, there are few scholarships you can apply such as mybrain, NSF, khazanah scholarship (just open for application recently) and you can apply the scholarship offered by the university itself.

It is easy to get sponsorship nowadays compared to older days.

Hope can help you.
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post Mar 16 2011, 04:57 AM

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QUOTE(migai @ Dec 24 2010, 08:15 AM)
Im bachelor degree holder, Im working with a private college. before I join this college I also got 2 other jobs with a relatively same salary. but I chose academic line because I love teaching and doing research.

a bit fact; there are 14ooo PhD holders and 1426 Prof. in Malaysia. of course not an absolute number.

if the reason of further study in PhD is solely on passionate for finding the truth, just go for researches (we got several research centers in Malaysia)  where there are longer time limit for you to spend.
but another reason to further PhD, there is limitation on budget to do a research. though Im working in a college with a good equiptment, still, I cannot do any research cause Im not a master or a PhD holder, thus no grant given to me.
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Sth to share, I am a 2nd year phd student in UK and one of my phd colleague over here is an assist. professor (i.e Prof. Madya) in the Malaysia. Am appalled that you don't need to have a phd to become a professor/ assistant prof in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(Sweet_Candy @ Mar 16 2011, 04:57 AM)
Sth to share, I am a 2nd year phd student in UK and one of my phd colleague over here is an assist. professor (i.e Prof. Madya) in the Malaysia. Am appalled that you don't need to have a phd to become a professor/ assistant prof in Malaysia.
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yup, that is how it is here
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hye everyone..i'm newbie here

currently i'm in final semester in my studies and my supervisor have offer doing phd but i'm interested joining industry.

can u help me please. give idea and advice, pro n cons.

tq
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QUOTE(fakanetic @ Feb 20 2011, 10:17 PM)
the journey of phd often about endurance. how's phd journey influence your way of life now?
i dont mind physical abuse,the mental abuse is a whole different level.

have to submit paper before 12 today...and i dont care....
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the truth is the PhD is physically and mentally draining, especially the final two years. I kept having to write and rewrite my thesis. Viva was a disaster as the external examiner challenged my analysis and although I defended my analysis, he was adamant. The internal examiner protested to no avail. The result was I had to re-do my analysis using a different technique (which he recommended). I entered into a state of depression and nearly had a breakdown, 8 months after viva, I resubmitted the thesis with the recommended corrections and got through. The whole process was humbling, I fell down to earth....never recovered!
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Mar 20 2011, 08:40 AM)
the truth is the PhD is physically and mentally draining, especially the final two years. I kept having to write and rewrite my thesis. Viva was a disaster as the external examiner challenged my analysis and although I defended my analysis, he was adamant. The internal examiner protested to no avail. The result was I had to re-do my analysis using a different technique (which he recommended). I entered into a state of depression and nearly had a breakdown, 8 months after viva, I resubmitted the thesis with the recommended corrections and got through. The whole process was humbling, I fell down to earth....never recovered!
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interesting to see diff ppl in diff line with diff experience. I believe that phd will be another level of education for most of us ( like the jump from pre U tp U). I am going to start my long road of getting a masters first then ultimately phd (god willing) this coming july.

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QUOTE(bafukie @ Mar 29 2011, 05:28 PM)
interesting to see diff ppl in diff line with diff experience. I believe that phd will be another level of education for most of us ( like the jump from pre U tp U). I am going to start my long road of getting a masters first then ultimately phd (god willing) this coming july.
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"PhD is a license to teach"...this applies when you're in the academia world...
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QUOTE(Sweet_Candy @ Mar 16 2011, 04:57 AM)
Sth to share, I am a 2nd year phd student in UK and one of my phd colleague over here is an assist. professor (i.e Prof. Madya) in the Malaysia. Am appalled that you don't need to have a phd to become a professor/ assistant prof in Malaysia.
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Assistant professor is assistant professor...prof madya is Associate Professor...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_academic_ranks
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QUOTE(highwind85 @ Apr 5 2011, 03:38 PM)
Assistant professor is assistant professor...prof madya is Associate Professor...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_academic_ranks
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Thanks for the links ... didn't know that Profesor Emeritus (usually retired professors) ... sweat.gif
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if im getting a phd im getting it for the recognition. so itll be easier for me to publish scientific and philosophical articles in science magazines
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can someone share where is the best location to pursue study in Phd at oversea especially in engineering management?

what is the step to further there? i have qualification from local university and now looking for next step to gain the knowledge at oversea.

hope someone mind to share.


Added on April 11, 2011, 2:42 pm
QUOTE(malayantiger @ Mar 20 2011, 08:40 AM)
the truth is the PhD is physically and mentally draining, especially the final two years. I kept having to write and rewrite my thesis. Viva was a disaster as the external examiner challenged my analysis and although I defended my analysis, he was adamant. The internal examiner protested to no avail. The result was I had to re-do my analysis using a different technique (which he recommended). I entered into a state of depression and nearly had a breakdown, 8 months after viva, I resubmitted the thesis with the recommended corrections and got through. The whole process was humbling, I fell down to earth....never recovered!
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wow looked likes very tough experience here, sad to hear that but i just wondering if to become a phd, someone should be very strong knowledge in their expertise...if they can challenge your expertise it mean you not competent enough.. brows.gif

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